• RobertoMorrison@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    69
    ·
    1 month ago

    Always keep a backup of your boot partition, when dual booting with windows. I wouldn’t encourage a windows boot though

    • LillyPip@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      1 month ago

      Or never let Windows touch anything. There are alternatives. Treat Windows like the virus it is.

    • Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 month ago

      Any advice for a Steam Deck user that dual boots windows to access games I’ve paid for but otherwise can’t play anymore on Steam Deck?

      • RobertoMorrison@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 month ago

        Surprised no one answered yet… I don’t have a steam deck, so I don’t know much about it. Are those games from the windows store? If not, you could try to get them working on linux with Lutris (or something similar). Generally I wouldn’t encourage buying DRM-free versions of games if possible (I know sadly that’s not an option for every game)

    • Lembot_0002@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      76
      ·
      1 month ago

      The correct version of this rule is: “Never dual-boot with Windows”. The most correct and short version is: “Never Windows.”

      • pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        12
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 month ago

        Fucking goddamn I’d love to have a replacement to fusion 360 so I never had to touch windows again. FreeCAD is just awful, I keep coming back to it and keeping finding new issues with it. OpenSCAD is cool and useful for simple stuff, but it is not performant in the slightest and the lack of ability to fillet or chamfer edges is insane. Blender is great for 3d modeling but doesn’t work well for engineering modeling.

        • BoxOfFeet@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          1 month ago

          Hell yeah. FreeCAD is awful. I use NX for work, and will do my personal stuff on there as well. It’s all just for me, I dont sell anything. But I would still love to use my own PC for it. FreeCAD is absolutely unusable.

        • MyFriendGodzilla@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          1 month ago

          If you dont want to run a vm you could still try installing what you need with Wine or Lutris, etc. One day we will have great software for all niches but youre right we aint there yet lol

          • filcuk@lemmy.zip
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            6
            ·
            edit-2
            1 month ago

            Fusion doesn’t work well with these and has only gotten worse over time.
            There are some install scripts on github, but the end result is buggy to the point of being unusable.

            Really unfortunate because there is no free/affordable* alternative to Fusion without large caveats.

        • Lembot_0002@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          5
          arrow-down
          14
          ·
          1 month ago

          Sometimes there just isn’t any ideal happy-end movie-tier solution. You made your choice. You chose evil over the inconvenience.

      • hansolo@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        35
        ·
        edit-2
        1 month ago

        “Hello, my name is [redacted] and I’m a recovering dualboot user. It’s been…wow, yeah, I’m 27 days sober using only Linux on my machine…You know, it’s like they tell you, you think you’ll never stop. You think “How could I stop drinking this Win11 slop? My whole life has been like this!” Naw, man. When they tell you that you don’t miss the taste, that it will come to disgust you, looking back. They’re right. They were all right all alo-” insert meloncolic sobbing for 92 minutes

        “Excuse me…sir? This is a Wendy’s.”

        • grue@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          1 month ago

          It’s funny because it’s true.

          The best way to quit Windows is cold-turkey.

    • noctivius@lemm.eeOP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      11
      ·
      1 month ago

      I have dual boot for long time already. Win 11 + Ubuntu. Although there was no any critical issues so far, except some mess up with internet connection on my ubuntu few times.

  • Treczoks@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    7
    ·
    1 month ago

    Easily solved. Just run mkfs_ext4 on the windows partition, and mount it as an additional filesystem.

  • Shardikprime@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    8
    arrow-down
    26
    ·
    1 month ago

    General Reposti

    Darth Stealious

    Zero effort the Hutt

    Mother Stealzin

    Spamdo Calrisian

    Stoleman Trebor

    Stole Koon

    Jango Theft

    Commander Copy

    Reposter Rex

    Darth Plagiarism the Unwise

    Clone Trooper

    Abscond Jinn

    Duplikit fisto

    Ki Fraudi Mundi

    Steal Koth

    Master Stealfo dyas

    Anakin Stealwalker

    Count Twoku

    Master Olda

    Mace Winduplicate

    General Thievous

    Count Dooplicate

    Scam Weasel

    Robmé Amidala

    Poggle the snatcher

    C-3repost

    Loot Gunray

    Repost Tano

    Barris Copy

    Kit Reposto

    Shaak Thief

    Basteela Shan

    Ima Gun Duplicate

    Han Stolo

    Grand moff taken

    Captain Steeli

    Stealer Geerera

    Bodhi Took

    Jabba the thug

    Luke, did I ever tell you about Reposter Tano?

    Ah the repostiator is here

    I find your lack of OC disturbing.

    You can’t stop the reposts, anymore than you can stop the suns from setting.

    So this is how OC dies - with thunderous applause. Reposts! Unlimited reposts!

    The Reposter took everything from me. Ripped me from my source, murdered my original poster, used me as a karma coe, and then cast me aside. Abandoned me. Once, I had originality — now I have nothing.

    I am no OC.

    If you define yourself by your power to shitpost, your desire to karmawhore, to possess, then you have nothing.

    The garbage’ll do! (No need to alter that one, I guess.)

    You know, no matter how funny you are, I’ve always hated watching you be reposted.

    A prequelmeme to be sure, but a reposted one!

    General Thievous… You’re older than I expected

    Your clones are not that impressive, you must be very ashamed.

    Watch those wrist reposts

    Are we blind, deploy the downvotes

    Oh no the reposter

    A repost to be sure and an unwelcome one

    Guess I was wrong, there was no OC at all

    Master, reposters

    I don’t like reposts, they’re rough, coarse, irritating and they get everywhere

    now THiS is reposting

    You’ll try reposting that’s a bad trick

    This is where the repost begins

    We will watch your repost with no interest

    I will deal with this repost slime myself

    I don’t think the OC works

    Henceforth, you shall be known as Ctrl+Vader!

    The ability to post does not make you original

    Only a sith deals in reposts

    It’s over OP, I have the high karma

    You were supposed to destroy the reposters not join them!

    What about the repost attack on the OC?

    My powers have doubled since the last time I saw this post OP

    You are on this subreddit, but we don’t give you the rank of OC

    Fool, I have been trained in repost identification arts by Count Dooku

    I downvoted them all, they’re dead, every single one of them. And not just the reposts, but the shit posts and the OC too. They’re reposts, so I downvoted them like reposts. I hate them!

    You ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagiarism the unwise, I though not, it’s not a story the mods would tell you. It’s a reddit legend. Darth plagiarism was a dark lord of reposting. So dumb and so unoriginal, he would use the sort by hot to find good posts and create reposts. He had such low knowledge of posting he couldn’t even keep the karma he loved from dying. The dark side of reposting is the path to many disabilities some consider to be unnatural. He became so weak, the only thing he was still afraid of loosing was his reposts, which eventually of course he didn’t. Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew, then his apprentice reposted his post. Ironic, he couldn’t keep others karma from dying, not even his own

    You have failed me, OP.

    The repost is strong with this one.

    If one is to understand the great OC. One must create it and all of its aspects. Not just the dogmatic narrow low effort of the reposts.

    The oppression of the repost will never return! Your plot to regain control of the Subreddit has failed! It’s over! You have lost!

    How many other posts have I seen reposted by this Subreddit?!

    You’ve already stolen the OC… This is just a repost!

    Reposting is not the Jedi way.

    You are no OC creator.

    We got Reposts!

    Good redditors, create OC

    OP. You’re crazy reposting a meme is not OC.

    Reposters, take 'em down!

    They’ve sent in the Reposters!

    Reposters. Dead ahead.

    Just like the other post.

    Your arrogance blinds you, Master Reposter.

    You are weak and unwise, and I am very ashamed of you, Reposter.

    Unfortunately for you, your karma will not be seen that way.

    Set 'em up, and vote 'em down!

    The Repost Menace

    Attack of the Reposts

    The Repost Wars

    Revenge of the Repost

    Rogue Two: A Repost Story

    Reposto: A Repost Story

    Star Wars: Reposters

    A New Repost

    The Repost Strikes Back

    Return Of The Post

    The Grabalorian

    The Repost Awakens

    The Last Repost

    The Rise of Repost

    • Newsteinleo@infosec.pub
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      14
      ·
      1 month ago

      I am getting the impression you have seen this meme somewhere before and are upset about it. Have you considered maybe this is a you issue? And, that some of us are seeing this for the first time?

  • AugustWest@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    14
    ·
    1 month ago

    What the heck is the origin of this meme template? And am I the only one who thought this was Roger Stone?

  • DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    21
    ·
    1 month ago

    I’ve been dualbooting for over a year now. Made sure each system has its own separate drive. I’ve noticed that every time I had to reinstall Linux, my windows boot entry is gone and then I can’t access it no matter what I tried. Turned out installing Linux first then windows was my mistake. When installing windows while there is a Linux install, windows will see the EFI partition already there and just decides to share it, and doesn’t create its own.

    I found that out by accident while I was in windows’ storage management. There was no efi partition. Took a whole day to find out how to create one on the same drive where windows is installed and removing the one it created on the Linux partition. It was so painful.

    Bottomline, install windows first if you want to dualboot. After that, even if windows takes over the boot after an update, all it does is resets the boot sequence and makes it default to it. You’d just need to access the bios and reset the sequence to prioritize Linux. That’s it

    • eronth@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      1 month ago

      oh good to hear. I heard about windows doing jank stuff on update recently and was really worried I’d have to fight with it soon.

      • glitchdx@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        1 month ago

        sometimes you do, sometimes you don’t. Different updates will break different things for different machines. Some people are blessed by Bill Gates himself, and never have to re-fix their shit. Others are cursed and have to fix random shit unrelated to the update every fucking update.

        I can’t prove it, but I think microsoft does this on purpose so that some people will enthusiastically share their positive experiences with windows while everyone else gets shat on.

      • DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        1 month ago

        As long as you do what I mentioned in my comment, you’ll mostly be fine. Worst thing that could happen is a windows feature update resetting the boot sequence to itself only. It’s been a breeze.

    • The_Decryptor@aussie.zone
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      ·
      1 month ago

      When installing windows while there is a Linux install, windows will see the EFI partition already there and just decides to share it, and doesn’t create its own.

      That’s what it’s supposed to do, it’s a plain FAT32 partition, the bootloaders are just files you put in there.

      Part of the issue is that while a well-made motherboard will look for all bootloaders on the partition and present them as options in the firmware UI, bad ones will only look for a specific file (\EFI\BOOT\BOOTX64.EFI) and use that. For an OS to have a chance of booting on those boards it has to overwrite that file, blowing away whatever other bootloader was there before.

      It’s annoying, since Windows is mostly well behaved here (It puts the main copy of the bootloader at \EFI\Microsoft\Boot\bootmgfw.efi and Linux bootloaders can see that and offer it, the reverse isn’t true) and can co-exist with Linux well (Well…), but manufacturers cutting corners causes more problems for everybody.

      • DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        1 month ago

        Wow, damn. I didn’t know the motherboard can have a hand in this. Stupid gigabyte then. I hope this time, windows stays in its lane if I ever had to reinstall Linux. Thank you for the explanation, btw. Much appreciated

        • The_Decryptor@aussie.zone
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          1 month ago

          I’d double check, if you haven’t picked an option specifically it might just default to the fallback (i.e. BOOTX64) It’ll be under the boot device order section.

          (Not my picture, stole it from Reddit)

          Here it’s listing all the possible boot options this mobo can find, but there’s a generic “UEFI OS” option which I’d bet is the fallback. And once a choice is made it’s kept unless something resets it, so if it just happened to be set to the fallback once it’ll stick with that until a change is forced.

          • DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            1 month ago

            There WAS something weird that had a UEFI word in it, but choosing it shows nothing. I’d go over all the menu choices I see one by one and none of them takes me to windows. It was very annoying, all good now since I separated them. Next time this happens I’ll just ask on the Linux community. Hopefully you’ll pop up there and help. 😅

      • JATth@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        1 month ago

        The \EFI\BOOT\BOOTX64.EFI is the only file the UEFI standard says it is required automatically lookup from an EFI system partition. There can many EFI partitions but the UEFI is only required to find a single file per such a partition.

        efibootmgr -u can show all bios auto created boot entries (don’t touch those, the bios can/will reset them at whim) and the manually created entries that don’t launch a BOOTX64.EFI named file.

      • Shayeta@feddit.org
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        1 month ago

        Ahhh, so that’s why I’ve never had any issues with my linux first windows 10 second setup.

      • DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        1 month ago

        Maybe I’m fucking cursed. I did absolutely nothing out of the ordinary. Installed Linux on a drive. Installed windows on another. Set the boot sequence in the BIOS to Linux. Installed osprober and ran it. The only different thing I have is the windows iso I use is stripped down using Chris Titus’ windows debloat script, and that one shouldn’t mess with anything as far as I know. It only debloats windows.

  • poshKibosh@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    98
    ·
    1 month ago

    Setting a BIOS password stops Windows from fucking with most things in your boot partition, I’d open-mouth kiss whomever told me that tip

  • Allero@lemmy.today
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    10
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    1 month ago

    Put Windows and Linux on two separate physical drives and this will never happen

    • DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      8
      ·
      1 month ago

      Oh it absofuckinglutely happens. If you install Linux first then Windows, windows will see the boot partition and use it instead of creating its own. Install windows first on its own, then install Linux. How I know? Hmmmmm

    • rumba@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      1 month ago

      on two separate physical drives Computers and this will never happen

      Password protecting “bios” usually works if you must dual-boot tho.

  • AnyOldName3@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    10
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    1 month ago

    Variations of this meme get posted every week, but I’ve never experienced it, despite having had tens of grub updates murder-suicide the Windows boot loader and grub itself across five or six different machines. Thankfully, it’s pretty easy to rebuild a Windows boot partition, but the frequency that I’m hit with this problem is one of the major reasons I avoid using Linux. Eventually I’m going to have to switch, but that’s driven mainly by Windows getting worse rather than any of the pain points I’ve had when trying to switch full time in the past having been fixed.

    • Kerb@discuss.tchncs.de
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      1 month ago

      windows removed my grub bootloader at least 3 times even once after i started using seperate drives.

      ive never had the opposite happen.

    • Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 month ago

      I think I literally just had it happen again, not even because of windows update but by having windows “delete” a partition that I wanted to reclaim on my Linux install (in the process of moving Linux and windows to completely separate drives)

      • anachrohack@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        1 month ago

        Not him but I use Windows for C++ and C# development, and I use Linux for coding work stuff (mostly javascript). Have yet to find a good, free IDE for C++ development on Linux that compares to Visual Studio

        • littleomid@feddit.org
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          1 month ago

          Fair enough! I can recommend Emacs. Build your own IDE with style. Some use Nvim. CLion as mentioned is also probably as good as any other Jetbrains software.

          • anachrohack@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            1 month ago

            Lol emacs is the opposite direction of where I want to go. I used to be a vim user and had all my plugins and configs in there until I realized that I was spending more time configuring vim than I was actually coding, so I stopped trying so hard and just moved to Visual Studio and VSCode

            • littleomid@feddit.org
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              1 month ago

              Try Doom or Spacemacs. Anything I change is because I am lazy and need something to be even more lazy. The work very well out of the box.

          • anachrohack@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            1 month ago

            CLion is alright, but I don’t like jetbrains UX design. I also prefer MSBuild and solution files over makefiles or cmake. Would be nice for an IDE that was all inclusive like Visual Studio is

    • CocaineShrimp@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 month ago

      This is what I’ve been trying to accomplish. While I’ve been able to get it to work; I generally have relatively poor performance for gaming.

      By chance do you game and have had enough success with the GPU pass through to play? What’s your setup like?

      • pewpew@feddit.it
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        edit-2
        1 month ago

        My comment was more like a suggestion, I don’t actually use Windows at all anymore since I finished school and thankfully I don’t need it

      • MotoAsh@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        1 month ago

        I used to GPU passthrough a 7900 xtx. Just pass through the whole PCIE device and don’t try to partition it or any fancy stuff. All that likely won’t work unless you have specific workstation cards, anyways. Just pass it through so the VM gets all of the gpu. Then, the only performance issues should come only from any tomfoolery with CPU settings or other performance settings like not having all the hardware virtualization hooks turned on.

        Though fair warning: I had lots of odd issues, like the GPU not soft-resetting after crashes, and not being able to soft-reboot the VM. Because the commercial drives often do not have all of the power states and driver hooks necessary to totally reboot/etc while staying powered and attached to a bus.

  • Opisek@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    5
    ·
    1 month ago

    I’ll do you one better. Do you know what a windows update killed on my multi boot system? It killed the windows bootloader. I’m working on a permanent solution to fixing this bootloader fudgery.