Meanwhile perhaps 100s of millions of hens live in small cages in probable misery because we want cheaper eggs.
I have absolutely no problem with the death penalty for crimes like this.
Shouldn’t ave pinched me chip, simple as!
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They’re talking about punishing the guy
Really?
For child and animal abuse, I just struggle to see a problem with it.
I see the fediverse is composed almost entirely of vegetarians. Feeling bad for a winged rat? Honestly? It’s not like this man is just going around killing animals like Baron Trump…
I live in the French equivalent of NYC rat wise and trust me, either my cat or I get rid of the pests quickly.
You’re a gross person
Plants don’t count as living things to you, huh
Go talk to your plants, I bet they’re the only ones who tolerate you. 😤
If you have no empathy for animals just trying to do their thing, that is a good indicator that you’ll lack empathy for people as well.
I understand they’re trying to do their thing, and that’s what happens. He’s not going around torturing birds for his entertainment. And here I’m entirely on the side of humanity, lol, what? I feel bad for the dude, his day was probably ruined.
If his day is ruined by losing a bit of food, he needs to find someone to talk to about mental health. No one should be that close to the edge of violent response.
He got violently assaulted by a seagull and had a gut reaction with a seagull. I know you wanna equate it semantically to people being problematic with people but, again, unless you’re even more peaceful and selfless than Aang from ATLA, you’re just being emotionally hypocritical. Had he eaten the seagull or composted it to reduce waste, what would the problem be?
I’m sorry. I’ve had gut reactions before. Normal humans will swat or punch things.
It takes thought to grab it by the legs, and slap it on a wall.
But yeah, if it was just some unconscious reaction, then whatever. But in that case, I’m curious why a fuckin ninja is among the regular population.
❤️ I’d like to believe it’s just some maybe brutish/unafraid but otherwise okay fella and not some everyday sociopath, lol.
His day was ruined by his own actions, not the loss of a chip. Are you fucking dense?
??? He got assaulted by a winged rat. I’m about to eat chicken right now. It seems like you have a lot of feelings and that’s actually nice and sweet but the direction is wrong IMO.
He got assaulted
???
You could have just answered the question about being dense with a yes.
That’s fat shaming.
Fat people are actually less dense
You’re a fucking crybaby, you fucking crybaby.
Do ypu think we are in a war against seagulls?
They started it back when they stole a whole ice cream cone from my great grandpappy, I’m just ending it!
Why are you randomly murdering animals you do not plan on eating? Your cat has instincts to kill so they get a pass but what is your excuse?
Do you not get that killing a seagull like this is not a good thing?
It’s really not a big deal, and I don’t understand why it should be. He had a moment of anger (very valid) and what I assume was an immediate, unthinking violent reaction (also understandable but it might have scared some people around, which is not as cool), else the bird would’ve just flown away. I feel bad for the kids watching it, but more so for the dude who just wanted to eat chips in peace. A bird is a bird, and he’s not going around exterminating all birds in existence. Use your heart to give homeless people money, to raise abandoned kids and to stop imperialism and genocide.
I would argue the moment of anger bit wasn’t valid or rational.
I don’t think you should be giving anyone advice.
I think you expect too much of people in that case. Idk what tribe you’re from (I can guess), but I hope you come from a land of peace loving, vegetarian erudites.
Please guess what “tribe” I am from
What about this was “random?”
“ I live in the French equivalent of NYC rat wise and trust me, either my cat or I get rid of the pests quickly. “
That’s the part Im addressing with my comment about random killing. I’m not talking about the article.
Again, purposeful pest removal is not “random.”
That entirely depends on why you are killing these animals. If you are just killing rats or seagulls outside your home, that is random killing.
Sure, but nothing about it was RANDOM.
What do you think random means?
This is a really useful line of argumentation.
C’est une perte totale de temps de débattre sur lemmy, c’est encore pire que reddit en termes de biais cognitifs et d’echochamber.
Pas pire que Reddit, non (peut-être?), mais je vois que c’est pas le e-paradis que j’avais été promis, mdr. Merci pour ta compréhension ! 🙏
Would you like it if someone grabbed you by your feet and killed you by swinging you into a wall? What the fuck is wrong with you?
Well, I’m not going up to people and stealing their shit
You’ve never stolen anything, even as a teenager?
What kind of childhood did you have where you think it’s normal to mug people as a teenager?
Like threatening people or just snatching stuff like a seagull?
Either. That’s honestly pretty fucked up, in my opinion.
Wait, did you not even do anything pretty fucked up as a kid?
Ah, of course. People and seagulls are the same and deserve the same treatment and the same considerations. And my cat is my daughter and I’m a pitmommy too. This is why y’all are weird to other people.
The only consideration a seagull deserves is death by mein fuhrer. You… wouldn’t happen to be harboring any seagulls, would you?
You’re gross bud
Unlike the rats in my city, I shower.
I meant your personality. You as a person are gross.
I understood but I guess you felt it needed reiteration…
Wow you are a ballsy one
It doesn’t take balls to tolerate insults/derision, just understanding and patience. 🤷
I just wanted to make sure that it was crystal clear that I didn’t mean your physical appearance.
You couldn’t know it!
No arguments, so you use ad-hominem attacks.
https://birdfact.com/articles/are-seagulls-protected-in-the-uk
“[All gulls] are protected by law. This means it is illegal to kill, injure, or capture a gull.”
Legality does not mean morality, come on. If you’ve lived in the West, you know it perfectly well. Is this what the conversation has come to?
It’s both immoral and illegal, and quite frankly it’s indicative of a psychopath.
I think what you’re picturing is way worse than what actually happened (although in all fairness he could’ve been chanting to Satan while f’ing the seagull, I’m just assuming it’s how I picture it).
Not vegan, vegetarian, or even uncommonly attached to animals. But you are a disgusting person. Rats are great. Rats with wings are pretty cool too. Killing stuff that inconveniences you is psychotic behaviour. Simple as.
That’s sweet. I hope you have the same level of empathy for human beings.
Of course I do. That empathy need not stretch into the loss of a fucking chip. And in front of children no less…
Well, at least you feel bad for the children, that’s more reasonable.
Guess what that “person” doesn’t feel any empathy for humans
Feeling bad for a winged rat?
This is no about the seagull, it is about actions of this psycho. Swinging into wall? In front of children? Really?
I assumed the dude grabbed it as it was flying out with the chip and just slammed it quickly without much thought. He might have a horrible day/week, just wanted to have some chippies and this happened. Meh. 🤷
Oh for fuck sake…
Look, I sometimes have a bad day yet I am not walking around smashing skulls.
Bro, it’s not the same and you know it. Equating people and animals only means you have less empathy for people.
I am not equating anything to anything. Smashing skulls because you have a “bad day” is objectively wrong.
Why can’t you just say, “I want this innocent man jailed because I want his life to be hell”. It’s easy buddy
Say what now? 🙄
What about a person who works in a meat processing plant? Killing hundreds of chickens a day. Are they a psychopath?
What about a person who works in a meat processing plant?
What about them?
Killing hundreds of chickens a day.
Yes, for food.
Are they a psychopath?
Why would they be a psychopath?
Sorry, I think I got my wires crossed between your post and someone else’s. You were not claiming the person killing the seagull was a psychopath.
I called him a psycho, yes. He did kill for revenge, not for food. And in front of children.
I don’t have any issues with killing for food and I love a good steak.Killing as pests eradication is also OK before you ask. This was neither though.
They’re even worse, as they do it with no emotion. It’s cold and calculated.
I feel inclined to purchase some meat today just to upset you
Can I come too ?
I was being facetious, but please do have a nice, protein full meal in my name! I’m gonna have some for dinner soon. 😅
Fascinating! So what about exterminators killing bugs? Does the size of the creature matter?
They’re genocidal beasts and will go to Hell for ‘taking care’ of my apartment’s cockroach infestation!
Don’t feed the troll, people.
Not only is he cruel, he is actually participating in making more powerful Seagulls, the surviving seagulls will be the ones that can steal chips and survive being thrown at a wall. Beware the terminator seagull soon attacking your chips, the walls will not survive!
Bahaha I fully support his actions. Fucking prick seagull fucked around and found out.
There’s a good chance another seagull ate the body before it was even cold.
ahaha animal cruelty funny
You don’t have the same opinion when it comes to rats
Fuck seagulls! Delete them
“They are annoying” isn’t a good reason to brutally murder a living being.
Not brutally murder but like…delete 😎
Wasn’t cruelty.
It was quick.
The next person who disagrees with you should do the same thing. Fucking psychos
I dont think you should call others psycho after fantasizing about their death.
Oh no not the flying rats
To each their own. But I have had rat friends who were more trustworthy than many humans.
Seriously rats can be really great. The worst part is their shorter lifespan.
Yup. We have had two sets of ratties live with us. After the second set died a few days apart I swore off any more. When their needs are met they are loving, and care for each other, and us, without reward.
If you schedule allows and you aren’t entirely rational, chinchillas are stupid, nocturnal, fluffy rats. The advantage is they live longer if treated well. The disadvantage is that nocturnal bit as their warning scream is loud. A girl I dated had a pair for 15 years before they passed.
That’s very cool. Were they thieves?
They atole the hearts of everyone who played with them. Does that count?
That’s crazy behavior honestly. Don’t let that guy have access to kids, they wouldn’t make it long.
Those kids better stick to their own damn chips
They’ll survive as long as they don’t steal his chips.
Don’t steal his chip
Simple as
This thread seems very British.
I’m not. I think that kids would steal his chip. “Simple as” as my pasty strange voiced relatives say.
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What a sack of shit you are
Gets attacked by an organism
Exacts revenge on an entirely different organism that had nothing to do with the first situation
Just stay away from their nests dude
The dude is just staying alert in case another one comes to the dude, trying to do the same thing as the original one.
Seems like the dude would do the same to any other kind of organism trying the same thing on the dude (perhaps you can try biting the dude’s neck to see if you get the written reaction).I’ll call that immunisation.
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That cartoon version of the old man kills me every time.
Stop stealing his chips
NEVER!
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Just wait until it’s the Ibis.
Those fuckers can steal a chip with range.
Seagulls: 2,047,7998, Humans: 1
When’s the last time of these sky rats swung someone into a wall though. I’d say that counts for at least 5 chips.
This would only be true, if that piece of shit had stolen the seagull it’s chip or if the seagulls had smashed more than two million people to death.
to be fair I haven’t seen a seagull spin somebody around by the head and kill them
You should, it’s quite the sight
As an aussie who has had many foods taken by birds including a fucking eagle that stole my burger out of my hands, this is some sociopath shit
I reckon. Birds are fuckin psycho.
seriously. who steals a french fry?
as someone who’s had their food stolen by a seagull a few times i once found myself in a fit of petty rage googling “can i kill a seagull” and the answer is no, like legally you cannot, they’re protected birds
Unless… you do it in self-defense
I would suppose that depends on the jurisdiction.
it does not. Seagulls are protected in: UK, Ireland, all of Europe, all of North America, Mexico, Australia, Japan, Russia, and probably more but i can’t be bothered to go past the first few Google searches to find out
Why are they protected? They’re rats with wings.
they’re covered by migratory bird protection legislations from what i read. and some of the seagull spiecies are pretty endangered. can’t tell you more than that, i just accepted that the sky thieves dickheads cannot be touched
I feel like the default is that you aren’t allowed to kill animals. Not as in most laws outlaw killing any animal, just that there are probably a lot of laws about randomly killing animals that aren’t like tiny bugs and stuff. Like you can’t just kill a deer unless you have a hunting permit. You can’t catch fish without a fishing license. Sure, you’re probably allowed to kill animals on your property that are a nuisance or anywhere in defense, but I wouldn’t just assume I can kill a random animal.
I think there’s a clear difference between an animal that’s a known nuisance and any other. If a rat and an emu both wander into my yard, the rat’s life is forfeit, but I’m not gonna fuck with the emu for multiple reasons.
Probably for the best, they defeated the Australian army in the 1932 Emu war.
I like how you said all of North America, and then also Mexico as if it wasn’t part of NA.
uhoh, my 2 from geography is showing (scale from 1-6, with 1 being fail)
It’s okay. I live in a glass house, so I shouldn’t throw stones.
You might break something!
I got a 2 in literary metaphors.
And that UK and Ireland aren’t a part of Europe?
I’ve heard Brits piss and moan that the UK isn’t part of Europe before. Whether or not that has any merit I can’t say, I’m not European.
I’ve never heard any Brit say UK isn’t Europe. Are you confusing Europe, a continent one cannot secede from without moving tectonic plates or waiting billions of years, with EU, the European union, a political union?
I’ve never heard any Brit say UK isn’t Europe.
And I’ve never actually seen a Hippopotamus, what’s your point?
Are you confusing Europe, a continent one cannot secede from without moving tectonic plates or waiting billions of years, with EU, the European union, a political union?
At what point did I mention plate tectonics or the European Union?
all of North America, Mexico
Hmmm. I mean I guess I get mentioning UK separate from the EU, but idk about Ireland, isn’t it part of the EU?
To be very clear, I’m not trying to contradict that it’s illegal to kill seagulls in a lot of places.
yea i’m bad at geography
It’s okay, I couldn’t name all 50 states on a map.
Well thanks for your exhaustive legal research.
they’re also protected in China and India, which together with the other ones accounts for like 70% of the world. are they protected everywhere? probably not, there are definitely some countries that have little to no wildlife protection legislations, but i’m not exactly a seagull murder law expert, nor do i want to become one, so i’ll stop at that
What we need is someone versed in bird law.
https://birdfact.com/articles/are-seagulls-protected-in-the-uk
Protected status in the UK. “[T]hey are protected by law. This means it is illegal to kill, injure, or capture a gull.”
HTH.
Ok, now what does jurisdiction mean?
dictionary.com is a good place to start.
I grew up by the sea and seagulls can fuck right off. Ones where I was learned to shit on you and your food from above so you would put it in the bin, then they’d raid the bin and eat the shit covered food.
A near-lifetime around these fuckers gives me some sympathy for this guy. Not a lot, but some.
I grew up with seagulls (well, lake gulls) and they weren’t a bother. Then I visited the actual seaside… I wondered why there weren’t more chip stands serving seagull meat.
Small flighted bird - Low meat ratio
Human food scavenger - Dirty malnourished
Of course, if you give McDonalds any hints, they might throw em in a grider whole and start a new line of nuggets.
It’s been considered by many but unfortunately they are full of tiny bones, lack much meat, and don’t taste great owing to their ongoing diet of garbage, fast food, and their own shit
That’s why I prefer bagels.
The bird shit might clear the hole?
Nah I just prefer gulls that fly over the bay.
Well played
Fuck seagulls. They are made to piss of humans.
That just sounds like they’re being smart to me. They do it to get food, not to be malicious. Unlike humans.
Doesn’t make them any more convenient to live with than hungry mosquitoes or botfly larvae
Hilarious…You gotta admit that’s some savage survival skills…hatred yes but maybe some respect.
Grew up by the sea too. Humans destroyed the vast majority seagulls’ habitat, overfished a ton, so if now they steal from us, it’s only fair. They are wild animals and need food. People should learn to protect their food instead of being a horrible piece of shit.
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