Tehran “is the principal source of regional instability and terror,” declare G7 leaders in a joint statement.
The leaders of the G7 countries on Monday issued a joint statement saying Iran should not have nuclear weapons and affirming Israel’s right to defend itself.
“Iran is the principal source of regional instability and terror. We have been consistently clear that Iran can never have a nuclear weapon,” declared the statement, issued by the leaders of the U.S., U.K., France, Germany, Italy, Canada and Japan, along with the EU.
They pledged to “remain vigilant to the implications for international energy markets and stand ready to coordinate, including with like-minded partners, to safeguard market stability.”
I believe ALL of the following;
- Iran should not have nuclear weapons
- Israel should not have nuclear weapons
- Iran should not weaponize Palestinian suffering or coax them into attacking Israel while Iran itself sees little repercussions
- Israel should not genocide
- Israel has committed genocide and should pay a hefty price
- Neither Iran nor Israel will really answer for their fuckery
- Palestinians will remain fucked…if they survive.
My heart breaks for the Palestinian people who suffer and die for others’ greed, ambition, and political squabbles.
Iran is answering for their fuckery
My exact thoughts
This is the nature of modern day proxy conflicts. Both actors can continue easily but the “battlefield” like Gaza and South Lebanon are the ones that lose.
Damn, that’s the most reasonable take I’ve heard all year. Kudos
Exactly. This is not a competition, we don’t have to cheer for either side. Horrible things are happening
I’d add:
- Hamas needs to deleted from the face of earth
And all that basically describes the opinion of 90% of the population just that vocal minorities are very vocal.
90 percent of the western population. The rest of the world is more sympathetic to the militant struggle against imperial genocide.
I agree with all of your past tense takes. The future remains to be determined. We might all be flattened at this rate.
Well that’s a nice enough list in a vacuum, but what does that actually mean she the real world? Israel already has nukes, Iran won’t survive without them, Palestinians are going to fight back against the fascists trying to exterminate them - with or without Irans prompting - and sympathetic countries like Iran are going to try and aid that struggle.
NO ONE should have them. Dumb asses.
Yeah but until countries like the US, Russia, China and the rest give them up, they are the only true guarantee of sovereignty.
Tehran “is the principal source of regional instability and terror,” declare G7 leaders in a joint statement.
The leaders of the G7 countries on Monday issued a joint statement saying Iran should not have nuclear weapons and affirming Israel’s right to defend itself.
I never had much hope, but come the fuck on. Statements like these unironically make me want to cheer for the fascists.
Looks like Israel-US are the principal source for instability in the area, to me.
you don’t have to choose a side and you can wish everyone involved a very nice visit to hague
I do wish everyone involved a very nice visit to the Hague, but more than that if Westerners can’t stop their leaders from stanning for genocide, then it becomes very tempting to choose the fascists who will sabotage the Zionist project by running their countries to the ground. I’m a firm believer that people who support genocide don’t deserve anything but fascism.
The principle source of terror is the united snake
Iran is the principal source of regional instability and terror.
Ok does someone want to catch me up on this opinion shared by world leaders but quite literally no one else?
Like yes, Iran is a terrible authoritarian state that is very dangerous. But so is Saudi Arabia?!
Iran is literally funding all terrorist organizations in the region and even beyond that directly support Ruzies 🙄
Resistance groups
Lmao
Whatever reason you give its not exclusive to iran, furthermore trying to defend actions of israel against iranian people is just golden
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They have done the exact opposite
Literally no? Where did you get that from? There is no country (other than the US, 80 years ago) who have made it clear they want to use one
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I left Korea recently after living there for 3 years. Idk what Fox News and CNN have going on, but no, North Korea is not threatening to nuke anyone. They use nukes as a “don’t invade me”, same as every other country
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Shutup vaush.
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이 답은 좀 답답해… 난 대한민국에서 살았고 친구들이 군대 갔어 근데 너는 이유 없이 나의 말을 무시해.
Why even bother reading things written by individual people who have experience in the region if you’re going to dismiss what they share?
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Here’s the short version (yes, this is incomplete because even writing this is a small essay. If somebody feels like adding context please do so), to answer your question on the background to their statement & position. The position is fairly common outside Lemmy at least.
History, history, history… (very long story)
2022: Israel was working on normalizing relations with the Arab countries. Things are relatively peaceful in the ME, albeit pretty shit for Arabs in Gaza & WB, not a warzone though. This succeeding would have been a threat to the Iranian network of terrorist organizations (Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis, groups in Syria such as the IRGC).
Iran pushes forth October 7 to reignite tensions, training Hamas operatives & such.
Hamas attacks Israel on Oct. 7 kicking off the war - other Iranian proxy groups soon join in. Initially there is no direct conflict between Israel & Iran.
2024 april - IDF strikes the Iranian consulate in Syria to take senior officers in the Hezbollah chain of command and assassinates several others. Iran retaliates with missiles against with strikes against Israel proper.
After that, tit for tat strikes in increasing magnitude and escalations which have culminated in the current situation. No, it was not surprising, this conflict was always fundamentally between Israel & Iran and has been slowly escalating for a long time.
History, history, history… (very long story)
Starts in 2022
My dude…
Duh. OP asked about the position world leaders hold on the topic, not The Entire History of Everything™. Hence, the latter was cut for brevity.
Iran pushes forth October 7 to reignite tensions, training Hamas operatives & such.
I love unfounded conspiracy theories
Now that isn’t a reply I expected considering how well established this particular narrative is in the mainstream.
But here you go, a well sourced academic article on the topic:
Well you see the existence of Iran forces Israel to bomb them, thus destabilizing the region. If Iran would simply stop existing, Israel wouldn’t have to bomb them, and the region would be stable
Why not? The claims made by G7 members as to why are admissions - heck, one of the members has used nuclear weapons on civilians, and they’re still allowed to have them.
If anyone can, everyone can.
How else can the most advanced first-world nations keep exploiting the Middleeast?
With Netynyahu, we can change the government of any nation in the middleast. We just tell him to make a presentation that they’re bad and have big weapons!
Guys please understand we, the US, UK, Germany, and rest of G7 first-world nations, reaally need to assassinate forign leaders and destory and kill the people of any nation that opposes the existance of a genocidal ethnostate aparthied … because, the few Zionists who pay our salaries will not have a country where they can kill, evict, colonize, assassinate anyone who is not from their chosen race. Then we will have to give these brown people democracy, and their own governments?!!
If we did not make the middleast into dictatorships that work with our genocidal ethostate only, then they will not sell us cheap oil and will not have to couple all their trades, currencies and inflations against US dollar. Omg. imagine if they were then allowed to manufacture their own weapons and not buy trillions worth of military equipments and defense contracts from us? omg… our 9999 military bases there? who will pay for them?
7 pigs
Isreal has bombed Iran
everyone likes this
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Iran: “We’re good then, we don’t just have one.”
China, India, and Pakistan once again proving that having nukes does actually matter because you can’t be arbitrarily shoved around around by the only other nuclear powers.
it also helps if your air defense network doesn’t collapse immediately because it turns out that in order to guard these nukes you need also regular capable conventional military
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Even the statement is not about protecting people lives but about market stability.
They are not working for the people…
Iran already has the information needed to make nuclear weapons; the Trump administration’s DOGE leaked that information
Of course they do … you can basically find that information on the internet.
https://www.nytimes.com/1976/10/09/archives/student-designs-2000-atom-bomb.html
University physics student designed an atomic bomb to prove that nearly anyone with information now publicly available could do the same thing.
The student, John A. Phillips, a 21‐year‐old senior, using information obtained from unclassified sources, has prepared a 34‐page report said to contain plans for a crude plutonium device weighing 125 pounds and allegedly carrying a charge one‐third as powerful as the one detonated over Hiroshima in World War II.
“The point was to show,” he said, “that any undergraduate with a physics background can do it, and therefore that it is reasonable to assume that terrorists could do it, too.”
Mr. Phillips, who took four months for research and to complete his plans, did not build his bomb, and scientists familiar with his work have refused to evaluate the plans.
But the New Haven student, whose father is a professor of mechanical engineering at Yale, contends that his academic advisers have assured him that the device is “workable.”
By the time Mr. Phillips completed his plans, he had concluded that “billions of dollars and years of research are no longer required for the design and construction of a fission bomb,” but that “fanatical dedication to the goal and scientific know‐how are.”
Mr. Phillips said yesterday while outlining his plans for the bomb, which he contends could be built for $2,000, that he could have designed a more extensive one but that he had limited himself “to the crudest, cheapest and simplest device.”
“Any other physics major could do this better,” Mr. Phillips asserted. “It was just luck that I got on the right track. I’m really one of the poorest students in the physics department.”
While i am sure his comments on it costing $2,000 ($11,300 today) are broadly exaggerating, the key point remains. The information needed is really not the obstacle in the process of acquiring a nuclear bomb.
That is a wild story and fucking terrifying.
Another fun read:
Radioactive Boy ScoutI have heard of that one. It is insane what is possible to do with materials available to civilians.
that was known almost decade before that https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nth_Country_Experiment
“We will do anything to maintain the status quo, up to and including genocidal ethnosupremacy”!
I am honestly so revolted.
I’m curious to see what Iran would have become in the next 5 years had this shit not occurred. It had the potential of becoming another regime or possibly a democracy again. Hard to say where it was going.
Well, that’s been the litemotiv of the last century on the area, support a slightly less evil genocidal asshole against another genocidal asshole.
What status quo? They are complicit
The status quo is Western dominance and power projection.
Not exactly. West didn’t care too much about other non-western countries having nukes. Two nations who have nukes borderline almost started a war in Asia (Pakistan and India). Iran is a special case, just like North Korea is. Unlike others, the two I mentioned have essentially declared themselves as the enemies of the west, so naturally west wants to keep them away from such destructive weapons
EDIT: Third one would be Russia, but there was already conflicts and a long standoff. The Russia has made it clear they can invade everyone but no one can invade them. Coincidentally, same could be said for USA.
Just my two cents, from some philosophing east european slav here.
Iran is a special case. Unlike others, the two I mentioned have essentially declared themselves as the enemies of the west,
You reversed it. The west made itself the enemy of iran
Elaborate…
For others who don’t want the alternative history: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran–United_States_relations
Iranian explanations for the animosity with the United States include “the natural and unavoidable conflict between the Islamic system” and “such an oppressive power as the United States, which is trying to establish a global dictatorship and further its own interests by dominating other nations and trampling on their rights”, as well as the United States support for Israel (“the Zionist entity”).[11][12] In the West, however, different explanations have been considered,[1] including the Iranian government’s need for an external bogeyman to furnish a pretext for domestic repression against pro-democratic forces and to bind the government to its loyal constituency.[13] The United States attributes the worsening of relations to the 1979–81 Iran hostage crisis,[1] Iran’s repeated human rights abuses since the Islamic Revolution, different restrictions on using spy methods on democratic revolutions by the US, its anti-Western ideology and its nuclear program.[14][15]
We are going to ignore that the 1953 coup never happened?
https://www.npr.org/2019/01/31/690363402/how-the-cia-overthrew-irans-democracy-in-four-days
According to Stephen Kinzer, author of the book All the Shah’s Men, Roosevelt quickly seized control of the Iranian press by buying them off with bribes and circulating anti-Mossadegh propaganda. He recruited allies among the Islamic clergy, and he convinced the shah that Mossadegh was a threat.
The coup explains the current form of government, not why the government hates west, a west that is broader than just US
