I hate that 2/3 of my fellow citizens support this, either directly or or tacitly by choosing not to vote.
I really hope the protest/non voters are happy with the outcome they chose. I can’t wait to hear them tell me that Harris would have done this too! Anything to justify intentionally causing the suffering of more people…
Bombing the shit out of the Middle East is the only bipartisanism the US has ever reached, therefore yes, a Democrat would have had to bomb something because that’s what US presidents do. Anyway, keep on blaming voters instead of holding the party accountable for its mistakes.
“Don’t blame the voters who elected the president” is the sort of argument I’d expect from someone intentionally ignoring that he bombed nuclear sites.
BoTh SiDeS arguments are stupid and people who make them should be ignored. Like I said, anything to justify your bad choice.
I didn’t make a choice. I don’t live in the US. But my country is strewn with US military bases and it wasn’t Trump who put them there.
Trump is simply more ignorant about how a US president should bomb the shit out of Middle Eastern countries, but don’t act like he invented anything.
And yes, on some things “both sides suck” because the US have been terrorizing other countries for decades.
They bring desolation and have the gall of calling it peace.
Both sides arguments are actually pretty enlightened. You can have criticisms of both candidates and vote for harm reduction. If anything the inability to criticize both sides for where they are the same is the same type of belligerent as MAGA. Harris running on building a fucking wall was a fucking disgrace.
But fuck not blaming voters for their stupid fucking decisions and fuck the sham of a democracy the US electoral system is. FPTP and WTA elections in the modern age are a fucking disgrace as well as no equal representation and voting with money.
You are the problem please leave the country.
What a Trumpy thing to say.
Voting doesn’t mean shit. I’m sick of arguing with bluemaga. Fuck it. Fight or get out. Stop blaming people who you think have a responsibility to lick your copmommy’s boots.
If fighting fasch were so important, you should have made literally any compromise.
If fighting fasch were so important, you should have made literally any compromise.
Any compromise other than voting for the Democrats, you mean. Clearly that’s a compromise too far for plenty here.
Or just any policy compromise. Don’t suck so much billionaire dick, 20% less enthusiasm with the genocide, do something about the cops, whatever. I don’t need everything.
I’m sick of arguing with bluemaga
then don’t.
Take your own advice and go fight or get out or whatever. Stop blaming people who you think have a responsibility to do whatever it is you think they should be doing for you and go do the thing yourself.
If fighting fasch were so important, you wouldn’t be indoors on lemmy telling people to leave.
go fight
No that sounds scary. I don’t want to go outside! There’s robbers and stuff out there!
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I’m not the one who helped let a Nazi win. I’m doing what I can, but I can’t change things with citizens who ignore how the system works and choose to sit out and let this shit happen.
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You are. You continue. Please actually do something or leave.
How the system works
I don’t think I’m the one who’s been ignoring that.
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‘voting is the only indicator of support’
You are the problem please leave this country.
No, voting is literally the least you can do, and that’s too much for some people…
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You’re the goddamn idiot if you thought abstaining from voting would help anything. Hope you’re proud of yourself shithead
You mean the people getting gassed and beaten and locked in cages fighting these bastards?
Who’ve been getting shot and stabbed and run over by them in street fights for a decade or more?
Yeah. Couldn’t be asked to lift a finger
That’s not ‘the least you can do’ by any means, but good try at a lazy gotcha to someone who has been tear gassed at these kinds of protests for years.
Yes, voting is the least you can do. Protesting is a very good tactic, but choosing to disregard political opportunities tells me you’re not really worth listening to.
Have fun playing computer warrior, kid, I’m tired of you.
Does that mean you’ll leave?
Protests
I also meant literally fighting these bastards, you know ; the Nazi gangsters?
It’s literally the least you can do, less than literally anything else, and doing the least possible is not good enough.
You don’t get to wash your hands because you voted for Kodos. Has Harris even come out against bombing Iran?
Whitaker followed up, asking, “If Iran is building a nuclear weapon, would you take military action?”
“I’m not going to talk about hypotheticals at this moment,” said the vice president.
Check out my post history fam, I got you.
that’s pretty wholesome
Funnily enough I do moderate !lemmybewholesome@lemmy.world
I’ll give it a sub
Welcome to our wholesome corner! Enjoy
Brah.
<3
Sounds like some young people who haven’t been through this before. This is not going to lead to a war. The USA has been bombing other countries continuously for decades.
Might be the toughest opponent we’ve bombed since Iraq, which technically wasn’t a declared war either.
You’re absolutely right, this won’t likely get bad for Americans. Being so far away with a huge military insulates us from the consequences of our actions abroad.
Almost like we are the baddies
Bestween this and Yemen, Palestine, Syria, Libya, Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Guatemala, Chile, Cuba, Indonesia, Timor, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Korea you’d almost start to think that. I wonder how many countries the real baddies have attacked. Must be way more.
Being so far away with a huge military insulates us from the consequences of our actions abroad.
Yeah, certainly. Only an utter imbecile would attempt symmetrical warfare with the U.S.
Asymmetric is the only way to go, and non-attributability would be the ideal.
There are different levels of bombing. This wasn’t the US assassinating a single general. This was a strike on strategic assets comparable to the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. We just did a Pearl Harbor against Iran.
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I mean, I dont see how it isnt a war already, this kind of thing is an act of war after all, and the other side doesnt have to be capable of equal retaliation for the term to apply.
It doesn’t really matter what you call it. W. and Obama normalized not declaring war on the countries you bomb. Unless the US plans to invade, it won’t be a war in the traditional sense of the word.
The US hasn’t declared war since 1942. It goes back way further than W or Obama.
what was declared during korea or vietnam?
Korea was technically a UN peacekeeping effort. It was just led and mostly done by the US. Vietnam was just the US giving South Vietnam a “little” help. It was called a troop deployment.
A conflict.
Oh, so a war. Got it.
No, what it is is a war. What it is declared is whatever works best for the politicians. It’s semantics, but there were no declarations by any officials.
Korea was a UN “police action” and Vietnam was a “conflict.”
Crucially, Congress did not formally declare war in either case, nor did they for the Gulf war, Afghanistan, Iraq, Grenada, etc.
yeah a lot of over reacting going on around here
…this is… war?.. you want troops on the ground? Careful what you wish for.
you want troops on the ground?
Genuinely don’t know what reality you’re living in if you are typing this question after reading my comment.
I believe their meaning was, ‘Do you have to see boots on the ground before you call it a war?’, not accusing you personally of wanting war.
Thank you for clarifying.
My only point with my original comment is that people are freaking out as though this is about to be Iraq War take 3. I see no evidence of that. It would require an invasion.
I mean how many dozens of times have we done something similar to this without anything becoming of it? Didn’t Trump literally assassinate an Iranian general during his last term?
Oh. So this is just Tuesday. I guess you should call Iran and tell them. They will be so relieved.
Distracting people from what is happening is NOT what you want.
But its exactly what will happen
Indeed. None of the crazy things that happened in the last few months stopped. Unfortunately.
I am wondering when Americans are finally going to come to the inevitable conclusion that conservatives have to be utterly destroyed by any means necessary in the most extreme prejudicial manner possible. These people are absolute pure f****** evil.
Liberals dont want change. Until the left accepts that libs gotta go in the ground too, nothing will happen.
I agree, but the enablers arent as big of a problem as the perps right now. I feel like they would fall in line pretty quickly upon seeing the consequences of their actions.
First we need to endlessly debate whether or not Kamala Harris would’ve done the same thing. Since we can never know we can all just assume posting shitty memes is more important than voting. We’ll tell each other it’s late stage capitalism so we can feel smart for doing nothing because it’s all going to collapse anyway, nothing we can do! Committed to being uncommitted! Apathy to the end!
No fucking on Lemmy?
Voice-to-text automod. I hate it but dont know where the off switch is
I’m only in Paris because they promised you’ll be here too.
Where are you freakinsteve le
Je suis un USian
Are you though?
Sacred bleu!! Ma couverture est découverte! Je suis un poisson mort!..
The people who vote conservative will probably never come to that conclusion.
We have to let the older generations die off until there isn’t enough support or physically stop them from voting to stop the conservative support.
Maybe starting a third party that genuinely wants to disrupt the status quo would fix some stuff.
Lets get something REAALLY FUGHIN STRAIGHT:
Conservatism DOES NOT DIE OFF.
AAAALLLLLL of the radical fascist right wing Nazi pundits and influencers are Millennials and younger, with a few GenXers scattered about.
Everyone SWORE that conservatism would die off with the Boomers, but that was 15 years ago. Its not gonna happen.
Every new generation votes more progressive leaning than the last.
So once the boomers are all gone, the Republican Party loses a shit load of control.
Regressives have tried to appeal to the incels their ideology creates, but it isn’t enough to outpace the above trends.
A law was passed 30 years ago to ensure that the politically motivated only hear one ideology. The platforms have changed since then but the same people are in control of the messaging and censorship.
3rd party…yes! Possible, not really. The two parties have a spot on the ballot, built in, automatically given. All others have to jump through each state’s requirements to get on the state ballot. The most effective at this lately is the libertarian party. In the election before last, Jo Jorgenson was on the ballot in all 50, GO JO! Sadly, her media coverage was paltry at best. Most Americans didn’t even know she was a realistic option. Finally, most Americans think that a vote for a 3rd party increases the chance of their less desirable major party winning. What they fail to realize is that, red or blue, the boot on your neck is the same boot, different shine.
This same conversation happened in 2016.
It will keep happening until the Duopoly is no longer in control.
We’re going to need a shit ton more memes to distract americans from the nightmare they created
K
Please send us Americans your best “you don’t have healthcare but too many school shootings” memes
FUCK
What’s super weird is that it resembles the war in Iraq but dumber.
After 9/11 Americans were out for blood, for revenge.
This time they were out for blood, democrat blood. Revenge for… being told to stay inside.
I guess every 20 years they realize they hate each other so they outsource the violence?
America is truly that neighbour which has constant domestic drama that the rest of the neighbourhood has to put up with constantly cause they are too nice to shun said neighbour.
The US made the first move. The US-citizens should get cover now since they opened the Pandora’s Box…
It is the moral imperative for Canada, Mexico, and all Central and South American countries to invade and destroy the Nazi outpost called the US
America is also low key invading america
This country has been divided since shortly after the revolution in the 18th century. It all boils down to racism and selfishness. I’m so ashamed of this country.
Um… Enduring? If thought Iranians are the ones enduring stuff… like, bombs…
How very American to worry about the nightmare you’re enduring.
Nope, just worried there wont be enough memes to keep the people complacent.
America did not. The U.S./Donald Trump did.
Ok
Some people see it as pedantic but I’m always bothered when people say “America” when they actually mean the U.S. government. America is a nation, which IMO includes most Canadian citizens and a lot of Mexico (marked by a shared culture). So many bad people use mixing terms between nations and states to try and manifest consent or some shit.
I think you mean America is not a nation, also besides north-america there is also south-america. You can argue as much as you want about about them being separate continents or not, they definitely share a name. I also talk about Americans when I mean people from US but if someone corrects me the only argument i have is that other people also do that.
Yes, France, the country, and France, the nation also share the same name.
There’s also the British Isles, Britain, and Great Britain.
Additionally, you might want to consider South Africa, South Africa, South Africa, and Africa. (Still all different things)
America in this case, I mean the nation which predominantly exists in North America and in the United States.
Yes, France, the country, and France, the nation also share the same name.
Whenever I see people talking like this I get white nationalist vibes.
France the nation includes more or less everyone who grew up there, so. IDK if or why you seem to think I’m racist.
I can be reasonable I’ll change it.
“Disteact [Americans] from the nightmare THEY are enduring”???
Yeah. Keep them in the memes as to distract them from the dystopia right outside their doors.
They are dragging the entire world into their insanity.
The rest of the world has to endure America.
Hmm
Won’t anybody think of the shareholders?
Well to be fair, there’s no memes in the world that distract people living under the shadow of bomb and missile strikes.
