Are they trying to avoid JP Mandel becoming president?

for all his talks, Ted Lieu still doesnt have the balls to impeach.

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Here’s the voting record to “table this discussion” a yay means against impeachment.

https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2025175

And the congressional record. https://www.congress.gov/congressional-record/volume-171/issue-108/house-section/article/H2906-2

Profiles In Cowardice

This, in a nutshell, is what is wrong with the Democratic Party.

If one of these folks is your rep, CALL their office and ask them why they voted to table the impeachment vote, and let them know you’re thinking seriously about not casting a vote for them the next time you have the opportunity.

They should have done it on day one and continued every day to explain to the public why it is necessary and how he is corrupt and dangerously incompetent if he remains.

Liberals are against every war except the current one.

128 Democrats join House Republicans to defend fascist dictator

This is the roll call of the motion to table the impeachment. It’s listed by alphabetical last name, but you can find your reps in there.

Oh yeah, and all of these 128 Democrats will be very disappointed about something evil that the chertondoes later and “wish they would have voted differently”

Fuck all of them

I’m sure to get dumped on for saying this but ya’ll need to chill out. President’s generally have authority to carry out military strikes. I can’t think of one in my lifetime that didn’t bomb somebody without congressional approval beforehand. Declaring war is a different matter but all the differences and nuances and where exactly the lines are, is not something courts have ever really figured out.

This impeachment resolution specifically said he declared war and he should be impeached because it’s Congress’ job to declare war. That’s the entirety of the complaint. It’s short. And it’s lazy. He didn’t declare war. He certainly risked starting a war, but he didn’t declare one. Democrats would have looked stupid for impeaching him for something he didn’t actually do and it would have failed just on the language alone. It did fail. And it should have.

All this ‘democrats are traitors’ or ‘they’re supporting fascism’ or ‘stabbing us in the back’ is crazy. They put forth a really bad impeachment resolution and it got shot down. You should be mad at AOC and Green for putting up a horrible impeachment resolution. It probably looked better last week when it looked like a real war might happen, but I don’t see anything impeachable here. If there is something, it’s deep and nuanced, it’s something that no one has ever agreed on the interpretation of, it’s something that Congress has let Presidents get away with for decades.

We’re not getting rid of this asshole by persuading the public that he disobeyed some highly nuanced technicality that nobody even agrees on. Shit, I’m getting sleepy just thinking about listening to a congressional hearing on it.

Looks like there are 212 Democrat reps in the house, which puts it at a large majority which would rather “not cause a fuss” or whatever the fuck excuse they’re trying to bullshit this time.

Useless people. Worthless people.

First of all, this is bullshit - every one of the 128 Democrats needs to be primaried out asap. (which of them are up in midterms?)

Second of all, this is another deliberate swipe at AOC and this will not stand, man.

Thirdly - however. We did this with Gee Dubz in early 2000s. Launching a missile strike without Congress’ input was already hashed out, and the president can do it. They did it by some bullshit where “going to war” is a whole seal, stamp, and magic incantation hullaballoo. If you remember Hillary voting for the Iraq War II, that was what that was about - they got to a point where Gee Dubz time had run out and he would either have to cut the shit or Congress would have to let him do it. Yes, Dems ate shit back then too, yes. NOT ALL - we had AOCs back then too. But the old ones were “only” sixty back then.

Fourthly - this was never going to go anywhere because we’d need 20 House republiQans to give up their lucrative careers to join in the effort which would then die in the Senate again.

And Lastly - I don’t know what 128 Democrats got for what will be costly to them personally, but it was something. Was it worth it? Let’s make sure it was not.

Representative Mike Lawler, a New York Republican, wrote on X: “This is absurd on its face. The United States has not declared war since 1942 and has conducted over 125 different military actions since that time, including in Korea, Vietnam, the Gulf, Afghanistan, and Iraq. Presidents of both parties have relied on Article II authority, as well as AUMFs [Authorizations for Use of Military Force], to conduct targeted strikes and have not been subject to impeachment. In 2011, Barack Obama conducted an 8 month campaign in Libya to topple Gaddafi.”