One the one hand I can understand the issue that one person wielding mod power in many subs is a problem, especially if that mod is prone to abuse of the mod position.
On the other hand, some subs, especially smaller ones, might go modless.
What I would have done differently is that I would not align this rule on the number of subs alone. The size of a sub should also be a factor, as well as overall number of mods in those groups. A good solution would be not as easy as what they propose.
Honestly just get rid of the mods.
These days some AI bot instructed on the sub rules would probably do a much better job. Nd not be a power hungry bitch
What are you talking about? We’ve had artificial power hungry bitch technology for years
Tbh, I’m active in some modless subs, and apart from the occasional spam or lost redditor it mostly works. r/Arduino (iirc) for example is unmoderated and not exactly small.
People downvote garbage content and it gets hidden fast.
Compare that to e.g. r/showerthoughts which is so heavily moderated that you need a masters degree just to manage to post there without getting your content deleted or r/WiiUHacks where the mods ban you for mentioning the wrong Wii U hacking project (e.g. Pretendo) even though you broke no rules.
The AI moderation is crap as well, but the upvote/downvote system is robust enough to work as a makeshift automoderation system.
moderating more than five subreddits with 100,000 monthly visitors.
I mean, that’s clearly a rule that considers size of sub a factor, so, um, what?
It’s social media, people only react to the headlines… they don’t educate themselves on the issue because that would interfere with them generating the next hot take.
What’s the second logo?
First picture I found on Google for each because I’m lazy but there they are with pictures attached.
Piefed
Lemmy
Mastodon
Pixelfed
Most of these names are absolutely atrocious.
To be fair, are there any social media platforms that don’t have a kind of stupid name?
I thought Diaspora was a decent sounding name. If it had more traction and actually pulled a sizeable diaspora away from Facebook it would have fit better than Facebook, Twitter/X, or Instagram’s names.
Most of the big ones at least have some kind of coherence behind their naming scheme.
The open source stuff is like: prehistoric hairy elephant, misspelled name of animal used as a metaphorical comparison for people doing dumb shit in a mob which seems to be insulting it’s users, and then some random words slapped onto the word fed - none of which sound good.
Its one of the two hard problems of computer science after all
The outer right one? This is lemmy. A link aggregator like reddit
Right. But what’s the one on the left?
Pixelfed
Piefed?
It’s like Lemmy but with consolidated comments, flairs, spoilers, polls, topics, feeds (like multireddits), proper blocks, hashtags, piped video integration, disclaimer messages, better mod and reporting tools.
Is it like, a whole other network with different people or is it like a different front-end to the lemmyverse ? This is kind of confusing ? And what about that “kbin” I keep hearing about, is that the same deal ?
Remember this big discussion? https://lemmy.ml/post/36058152
PieFed has had that feature for a long time, and many more besides. https://join.piefed.social/features/
Is there a piefed/mbin backend server or is it just an alternative webui client ?
I’m thinking of switching to a self-hosted single user lemmy instance and run all 3 self-hosted clients to my self-hosted server, is that practical ?
Yes, backend server.
https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi/src/branch/main/INSTALL.md
You could run all 3 but it would be redundant as they all have the same content and people :D
No, piefed is just another front-end to the fediverse.
It’s a different frontend with different features. You could be reading this very post on a Piefed instance instead of a Lemmy instance. Ditto for kbin.
Neither. It’s fully compatible with Lemmy but different on both the front and backends.
Summoning @rimu@piefed.social
Lemmy is a software that people can host on their computer, and many people doing that form what is essentially a bunch of mini-reddits that can talk to each other to create one big platform.
Piefed is trying to fulfill the same goals as Lemmy, and is even fully compatible with Lemmy, so someone hosting a piefed server on their computer can join in with all the Lemmy servers, and to the Lemmy people, it appears to them like any other Lemmy server.
But underneath everything, the code base is entirely different. The commonality they share, along with mastodon, is they all use ActivityPub, which is the standard that allows them to all communicate and be compatible with each other, just like there’s an email standard.
Kbin (now Mbin) is yet another Lemmy compatible software that you can host on your computer, but it also tried to implement features that make it more like mastodon (twitter-like), so it can act both like reddit, with threads and comments and communities around single subjects, or be like mastodon and work with hashtags and following individuals instead of communities, like a microblogging website.
They also use different interfaces, but it’s only visible to people who directly use that server; to others who access it from their home server, it’ll adopt the look of the software their home server is using.
So as an example, you are using Lemmy since your home server is Lemmy.ml. if you visit a community hosted on a piefed server from within your Lemmy, like !fullmoviesonyoutube@piefed.social, it’ll look like any other Lemmy community.
But if you directly go to that piefed server by going to https://piefed.social/c/fullmoviesonyoutube you’ll see it from the piefed interface, since you’re accessing that piefed server directly.
All of three of the different federated Reddit-like softwares are intercompatible, so they all make up one big network.
Iv said it once and I’ll say it again.
This shit is needlessly complex.
I would suggest that it is as complex as you wish to know.
My explanation above is not truly required to effectively use a federated platform, in the same way that most email users don’t actually know how precisely email works, and would find an in-depth explanation of it very complex.
All someone needs to know about email is that they must login to their email host provider, and that every user they might send email to has a unique name, and possibly a different host name after the @ symbol.
In the same way, the only thing someone needs to know about this platform, is they must login to the same place they signed up to (their host provider). They can then use it in a similar way to reddit. They might wonder why usernames or communities have different names after the @, but it doesn’t actually impede using the platform to not understand.
If anything, that might make it easier to use than email.
A very concise description, wonderful! 👍
piefed; https://piefed.world/post/474293
Me literally every time my friends start bitching about Instagram.
Just remember, people will be more open to trying the stuff you’re into if you’re compassionate about the things they’re frustrated with!
(This is intended for anyone who wants friends or acquaintances to try the fediverse platforms. For those who don’t or don’t care that’s perfectly valid too :)
I’m always like “who the fuck uses Instagram?” I guess I’m living in a different world entirely.
One of my DnD groups only share IG memes so I never see them because I don’t have IG.
You should have a better DnD group
You’re playing D&D with losers
My negative outlook on life pushes friends away so I don’t have that problem.
Primarily 20s-30s something women. If you’re not that demographic, you might not be keen on is usage.
Don’t forget 20-30 dudes who don’t know how to wash or talk to women desperately trying to chase those women.
My nontechnical hobby circle is all about the insta, sadly. Facebook, too. It’s an uphill battle full of people that expect you have them: They look at you funny if you don’t have one. It’s as if you said you don’t have email.
It limits mods to 5 subs with over 100,000 monthly visits it seems reasonable to limit the mods reach they all have back deals going on to push agendas and ads it’s pretty fucked.
Yeah, I thought it actually may be a rare Reddit W for 2 minutes, until I saw reddit admins will grant exceptions. So likely, mods that push reddits agendas will stay while the uncooperative ones will have to go.
Literally another attempt to appear legit by putting in place an easily circumventable rule.
So first they don’t even check if mods are using alt accounts to moderate other subs but even if they do force it, it’s so easy to click a button on your VPN and you are free to be anyone you want according to “Reddit Corps Super Advanced Security System.”
Reddit can ban users across vpn with their automated system. Its even easier if they have tasked someone to look into doing it. I doubt people are taking enough steps to prevent the browser fingerprinting that gives them a unique signature.
Well they haven’t figured out how to ban on my VPN 😂
as soon you turn it off it will probably ban you immediately, they are getting better at detecting more obscure methods to hide your IP adress.
reddit sniffs out vpn too easily now. the people that earning income with thier hundreds of accounts are paying for devices, a way to shield your browser from reddits fingerprinting, ,etc detection. plus using mobile proxies.
Well reddit has a vpn detection system, they have been automatically banning vpn user since last year, so its very risky to even use it, its very easy to detect it from reddit. thats why some power users have hundreds of accounts/thousands using more expensive methods. and i heard they are even detecting some of those now.
It’s interesting to see the site treat it’s unpaid workers more and more like low level employees. I guess capitalists just can’t help themselves.
The mods under discussion are the ones that mod more than FIVE large communities. if those people haven’t figured out a way to make that a paying gig, then they’re doing it wrong.
Speaking as a former top 1%er redditor… figuring out how to do it and being willing to do it are two completely different things.
Life would be so much easier if I lacked basic human ethics. :)
“Man, I wish I didn’t have a moral compass. I would have so much stuff!” - my brother after another coworker was fired for getting caught stealing.
See? And now you can wear that “former” as a badge of honor.
My biggest feather in my reddit hat was that they included me in their net neutrality filing with the FCC. I am actually pretty proud of that.
What ever happened to them after that? 😭
Oh wow, that’s actually a big deal. You should be proud of that!
And seriously, they go from Net Neutrality filing to racing at full speed to a bot garden cesspool. Ugh.
What kind of meat stick would do this? I still just literally cannot understand why someone would put themself in this position, no matter how entrenched into their parents basement they are, or how bad they smell.
There’s a robust reddit advertising ecosystem that exists. While much of that starts with standard “buy an ad that doesn’t scream that its an ad” stuff, things like doing an AMA or engaging with users or trying to co-opt user content are all in the mix.
Mods who can approve posts from advertising accounts, block or remove criticism, and even block posts from competitors can gatekeep messaging could, if they were dickbags, stand to make a decent amount of money for it if all the communications comes from sidechannels. /r/hailcorportate always sot of found the line between astroturf advertising and genuine brand worship by idiots, and it’s intentionally messy so it’s hard to tell what’s what.
Even buying and selling of old accounts is a thing. Buying and selling of upvotes from bot accounts, etc. The whole platform is manipulated unless it’s a small niche sub.
I imagine they get paid by intelligence agencies and advertising to shut down inconvenient and critical topics, positive discussions of competitors or criticing of the product, via overbroad catch all rules and moderator discretion.
Things just as likely to happen on Lemmy until every user participates in crowd sources moderation, all moderation actions become transparent and moderation are only optional action lists executed client side
(no modlog is not transparent, it’s quickly autodeleted and very hard to search, therefore difficult to audit broadly and even if you found violation, you will find only deaf ears to complain about it)
some mods are admins themselves, and some only care about POWER so not so much about money. and then theres the propaganda subs, like r/conservatives(well known to be backed by russia)
and allowing AI to train thier models. Reddits /GOOGLE and lesser extent openai is stuck at the hip.
the mods that arnt playing ball with reddit that is. the power mods, or the mods that have the admins ear wont be affected.
I got banned for updooting Luigi stuff.
And I’ll fucking do it again!
I joined after getting some weird warning about upvoting comments reddit didn’t like. That left a sour taste in my mouth.
Also, it’s creepy that they check upvotes.
Caught a permaban for calling someone a coward. No big loss, honestly. Reddit wasn’t doing anything for me except raising my blood pressure.
It made me doom scroll for hours. My life has been notably less stressful since i left reddit. What a shithole that place is.
Yeah, I didn’t realize how much trouble it was causing me until I was gone.
people caught shadowbans seemingly as a new or old inactive account. apparently reddits filters is now sensitive, that new accounts look like bots, if they suddenly have alot of activity.
I have very little sympathy for reddit mods. Too many of them are petty little tyrants with no checks on them. I hope the door hits them on the ass.
Site is already broken
Ha… Ha… HA
it’s already broken
It’s definitely Reddit attempting more censorship and manipulation of the front page, but I’m still happy the powermods are being fucked.
Yeah it’s like idiots killing idiots September
They’re competing to be the lead idiot.
