Lee Duna@lemmy.nz to World News@lemmy.worldEnglish · 1 year agoDemocracy in decline worldwide, new report sayswww.politico.euexternal-linkmessage-square100fedilinkarrow-up1499arrow-down17
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minus-squaresailingbythelee@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up18arrow-down1·1 year agoChurchill’s point is that stupid things can still happen in democracies, but no one has come up with a better alternative. What would you suggest as the better alternative? If you don’t have one, then you just helped prove Churchill’s point!
minus-squareSemi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.sociallinkfedilinkarrow-up2arrow-down17·1 year agoEvery human knows and has used a superior system from the time they first started playing with other people: Consensus.
minus-squarephotonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up17arrow-down1·1 year ago…which is basically what democracy is, but systemitized such that it can be applied at scale.
minus-squareSemi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.sociallinkfedilinkarrow-up2arrow-down11·1 year agoIf we had a consensus based government I wouldn’t have a fascist as a representative
minus-squarephotonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up11arrow-down1·1 year agoThere are more people than just you in your district
minus-squareSemi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.sociallinkfedilinkarrow-up2arrow-down4·1 year agoYes and we should all agree on who is going to represent us. Otherwise the losing party is disenfranchised.
minus-squarephotonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up10arrow-down1·1 year agoYou’re not going to get unanimous approval for anything when your group size is several thousand people
minus-squareSemi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.sociallinkfedilinkarrow-up2arrow-down3·1 year agoMaybe the groups should be smaller then
minus-squarephotonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up7arrow-down1·1 year agoAlso, smaller groups mean more representatives, which means unanimity/consensus as you say would also be unlikely at the national level.
minus-squarephotonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up3arrow-down1·1 year agoPerhaps. But this is the system we have.
minus-squareStumblinbear@pawb.sociallinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up5arrow-down1·1 year agoSo… A form of democracy?
minus-squareSemi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.sociallinkfedilinkarrow-up1arrow-down8·1 year agoDemocracy is majority rule, and fuck whatever the minority wants. Consensus is we don’t do anything unless we all agree.
minus-squarePelicanen@sopuli.xyzlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up2·1 year ago…what do you think democracy is?
Churchill’s point is that stupid things can still happen in democracies, but no one has come up with a better alternative. What would you suggest as the better alternative? If you don’t have one, then you just helped prove Churchill’s point!
Every human knows and has used a superior system from the time they first started playing with other people: Consensus.
…which is basically what democracy is, but systemitized such that it can be applied at scale.
If we had a consensus based government I wouldn’t have a fascist as a representative
There are more people than just you in your district
Yes and we should all agree on who is going to represent us. Otherwise the losing party is disenfranchised.
You’re not going to get unanimous approval for anything when your group size is several thousand people
Maybe the groups should be smaller then
Also, smaller groups mean more representatives, which means unanimity/consensus as you say would also be unlikely at the national level.
Perhaps. But this is the system we have.
So… A form of democracy?
Democracy is majority rule, and fuck whatever the minority wants.
Consensus is we don’t do anything unless we all agree.
Are you…high???
Yes but also yes
…what do you think democracy is?