• Bluewing@lemmy.world
    3·
    3 个月前

    No Vim! Vi only! Yes I know if you type “vi filename.txt” you get Vim. That’s not the point. Vi is nearly 50 years old. Have some respect.

  • BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world
    31·
    3 个月前

    I default to vim because I want an editor that just works and doesn’t need a lot of customization. I have nothing against emacs or nano.

  • utopiah@lemmy.world
    13·
    3 个月前

    I was laughing out loud until I read the part on VS Code or Google Docs to “avoid ideological tensions”.

    Clearly Herve Beraud is a closed source advocate, total rage bait! /s

  • DaGeek247@fedia.io
    18·
    3 个月前

    Defaulting to nano without explicit user consent will be considered a class c user experience violation

    One step forward, two steps back. I always hate how politicians can be so accommodating of the popular minority while still being so discriminatory against the less popular ones.

  • bluemoon@piefed.socialEnglish
    3·
    3 个月前

    to summarize the conclusions thus far, as is my secretary duty

    amendments to the protocol of this EU directive are as follows in the first line of stallings amendments:

    TECO is to be legacy alternative to EMACS and all personell are to be provided paid leave for educational purposes.

    ED is to be legacy alternative to VIM and all personell are to be provided paid leave for educational purposes.

    up for further discussion: are ideologically united editors such as VILE (VI Like Emacs) middleground or offensive to both parties? is it right of marginalized editors to invoke a non-monopolyculture clause: “will SAM or VIS be up for consideration?” asks [name redacted under GDPR]

  • madjo@feddit.nl
    10·
    3 个月前

    nano for lyfe! what’s the fine for a “class c user experience violation”?

      • anton@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        11·
        3 个月前

        Remember to put

        #!/bin/rm

        at the top of every file, to teach people not to execute files they shouldn’t.

            • jim3692@discuss.online
              3·
              3 个月前

              NixOS has rm. But it’s not under /bin. There is no /bin in NixOS. The user’s programs are inside /run/current-system/sw/bin, and those are symlinks from files hidden in /nix/store.

              Running rm -rf / --no-preserve-root under NixOS, will not nuke the entire system, since /nix/store is mounted as read-only, and only remounted as rw when new applications are downloaded, or older unused ones are wiped.

                • jim3692@discuss.online
                  1·
                  3 个月前

                  Maybe… I haven’t tried it to be honest. I will need to setup a VM for that, as my personal files would get wiped anyway.

                  If you want to test it yourself, try to rm while nixos-rebuild is running.

            • utopiah@lemmy.world
              4·
              3 个月前

              Not really cool to post commands like that without consideration for privileges for newcomers, make sure to use sudo first. /s

    • tal@lemmy.todayEnglish
      13·
      3 个月前

      Ed is kinda-sorta great-granddaddy vim.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_(software)

      ed (pronounced as distinct letters, /ˌiːˈdiː/)[1] is a line editor for Unix and Unix-like operating systems. It was one of the first parts of the Unix operating system that was developed, in August 1969.

      Dennis M. Ritchie produced what Doug McIlroy later described as the “definitive” ed,[5] and aspects of ed went on to influence ex, which in turn spawned vi.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vi_(text_editor)

      Vim (“Vi IMproved”) has many additional features compared to vi, including (scriptable) syntax highlighting, mouse support, graphical versions, visual mode, many new editing commands and a large amount of extension in the area of ex commands.

      I’ve never used qed, but it sounds like that might be considered even one step back:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_(software)

      Many features of ed came from the qed text editor developed at Thompson’s alma mater University of California, Berkeley.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QED_(text_editor)

      Initial release: 1967

      I guess TECO — which I also have not used — would kinda-sorta be the emacs analog:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TECO_(text_editor)

      TECO (/ˈtiːkoʊ/[1]), short for Text Editor & Corrector, [2] [3][4] is both a character-oriented text editor and a programming language,[5][6] that was developed in 1962 for use on Digital Equipment Corporation computers, and has since become available on PCs and Unix. Dan Murphy developed TECO while a student at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT).

      It was subsequently modified by many other people[7] and is a direct ancestor of Emacs, which was originally implemented in TECO macros.

      EDIT: Actually…hmm. Now that I think of it, I might have briefly used TECO on a DEC VAX/VMS cluster. IIRC, I mostly used EVE, though.

      EDIT2: Hmm. Apparently someone has ported TECO to Linux:

      https://www.almy.us/teco.html

      TECO, that grand old text editor your father used when he was young, is still available! It is powerful and compact precursor to EMACS and has a completely nongraphical user interface. This is based on Pete Siemsen’s TECOC implementation, and comes with a copy of the original DECUS TECO documentation.

      Do I need a paper tape punch and reader to use TECO?

      No. Modern TECOs will also edit text files.

      Is TECO fast?

      Yes, it’s probably the fastest editor available

      While I’m maintaining the files as I had worked on them and downloads here, Blake McBride has taken the source code, added the video/scope mode, fixed bugs and improved the speed (not that it is slow!), documented the changes and has it available in GitHub. Go here for his work https://github.com/blakemcbride/TECOC

      tries building it

      Hah. It takes under a third of a second to compile on my system:

      $ git clone https://github.com/blakemcbride/TECOC.git
$ cd TECOC/src
$ time make -j32 -f makefile.linux >/dev/null 2>&1

real    0m0.296s
user    0m2.341s
sys     0m0.874s
$

      Hmm. Yeah, I don’t remember how to use this at all, if I did use it. Looks like the command syntax is a little like ed’s, but you whack Escape twice to execute commands. Each press of Escape displays a dollar sign.

      Intro guide © 1972: https://ia902906.us.archive.org/25/items/bitsavers_decpdp10TOandbook04tecoIntro_1457616/04_tecoIntro_text.pdf

      $ ./tecoc
*Ihello, world!$$
*EWtest.txt$$
*EX$$
$ cat test.txt; echo
hello, world!
$

      Clearly does work, though.