• thewebroach@lemmy.world
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    Lol “hoarding”… If they were truly that concerned about a stagnant economy they could sell product at cost and not inflated retail. That would incentivize moving a lot more product while turning all the gears in the supply chain and satisfying a ton of jobs throughout.

    But they don’t really care the economy itself, just that it can be harnessed to make a rich guy richer as a byproduct. An economy that isn’t making the rich richer is worthless to them, so they come up with articles like this to shame people.

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    Let me see how long my 23-year BMW E46 could live :) My phone has more than 5 years and I am going to squeeze as much as possible from it. I am very happy when I don’t need to buy a thing.

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    “AI feature that I will eventually disable”

    Jokes on you, the reason im not upgrading is that I cant disable it. So im holding out on my current devices until they die of natural causes (last smart phone lived 8 years and my FP4 should last 10), or I find a replacment I fully control.

    (Just got rid of my last windows device a few weeks ago, still got the one for work, but it can be done).

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    They can pry my Galaxy S4 with removable battery and IR blaster out of my cold dead hands. (Thank you LineageOS, because Samsung dropped updates for it a decade ago.)

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        Sitting on the same phone, i don’t know what to do when it dies, really low spec ones got sd slots and a 1500 euro xperia…and thats it. But i like my local files so much

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        I’m not in the market for a new phone at the moment, but that one does look awesome. I like phones that are a little bulkier rather than those super thin things you usually see nowadays that feel like they’re gonna snap in half if you forget it in your back pocket.

        Too bad the battery isn’t removable though, that’s the only bad thing I see with it. ( I know that’s a rare thing to find a phone that does, but one can dream lol)

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          It is built for repairability and has accessible screws. I havent tried taking the back off yet tho. The right to repair attitude of the company is what drew me in too!

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            Ok that’s pretty cool! I just saw in the specs that the battery wasn’t removable, but that’s sort of misleading I guess if you can pop it open with a simple screwdriver.

            My daughter might be getting a new phone this spring, I’m gonna have to talk to her about something like this one. Thanks!

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      You’re still getting Lineage updates for the S4?! That one maintainer keeping your phone alive:

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        To be honest I’m surprised too… official builds are done, but there’s still unofficial ones floating around. I expected everyone to give up on this thing by now, but the last update was Nov 16th (https://updater.oddsolutions.us/devices/jflteatt/builds)

        I’m happy they are though. The phone may not be very powerful by today’s standards but it does what I need it to.

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      I miss my Galaxy S4… I had a blast running CyanogenMod on it. Ended up replacing it after ~3 years because I dropped it in the ocean (it mostly worked after I opened the back and cleaned it, all except the network card). Such a great device!

      I’m really pissed that my current phone (S23) now has a locked bootloader because of the newest OneUI update. Damn it, Samsung.

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    Seriously, I remember the days when buying the newest model of phone every year was seen as near parody levels of hyper-consumerism. It was lambasted, mocked, looked down on.

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      That movie always wilds me out because it was so much better back then for this shit, and it was still recognized that it’s insane we live like this.

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        “some of those that work forces are the same that burn crosses.”

        “Those who died are justified; by wearing the badge, they’re your chosen whites”

        These problems have been seen forever. Everyone is comfortable working through controlled opposition so we just chill on the ratchet. Its only going to get worse until people grow a spine and stop being tolerant, which is never going to happen.

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          Man, I know. Too many people didnt understand the point of these events or the cultural icons that spoke about them, and instead chose sides of an imagined political spectrum in North America. Abbie Hoffman and Fred Hampton are rolling in their graves.

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    I have a Samsung S23, and it is going to be the first time my phone WON’T either be destroyed or stolen before it is fully paid off. I won’t be getting another phone until something like Cape phone is fully functional in my area and I can have a GrapheneOS compatiable device. I will not be allowing any more bullshit be spying on me more than I need to (which ideally should be zero, but that is basically impossible).

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      It’s the same trend as desktops then laptops then phones then now on small smartwatches, they get good enough and standardized enough that they didn’t really change much anymore. And the mature technology means that as long as the old one works people won’t upgrade it until it breaks.

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        For me personally the last three phones I got were destroyed, stolen, destroyed… in that order. Ironically I didn’t armor up the last two phones due to the fact that the first phone was cased pretty strongly and was broken BECAUSE of that .

        However it seems that my current phone is armored up and it is lasting well. Btw my previous phone was a Motorola G5 Power. Meaning it was grapheneOS compatible… Just my rotten luck.

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        Not doing that either, but from what I understand after two years cars get you the most bang for buck. So economically it makes most sense to trade it in after two years for a new one. But of course you’ll need to keep doing so to keep that *advantage "…

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          from what I understand after two years cars get you the most bang for buck

          If you mean buying a two year old car, maybe. If you mean buying a new car every two years as implied by the previous commenter, absolutely not. Cars lose a ton of value in the first couple years.

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            Pretty sure he means after 2 years it gets a lot harder to sell. So they’re selling at the moment when they’ve had a “new car” longest.

            Not saying it’s a good idea, just that there’s a logic to it.

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          It only works if you paid for the very first new vehicle in cash. Save up for 2 years and cash out the subsequent vehicles as well. Then the numbers pencil out.

          If you to take a loan out it’s fucking stupid.

          After 2 years at 10k miles per year, historically you have lost 20% or so of the value of the car. With a 5 year loan you have paid the principle down to around 63-64% of the original value.

          This means you can trade in the car for more than what you owe on the loan. The difference is a partial or total down payment on a new vehicle.

          Lenders strongly encourage this behavior. Due to the amortization schedule 2/3rds of the interest is paid during the first 2 years. So people who do this with loans are always paying the highest intereston their vehicle.

          The best thing to do finacially is to buy a car with 20-30k then run it for as long as possible. Once the cost of a common major repair is more than the value of the car, get another low mileage used one.

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      I never know what kind of car my dad drives because he seemingly always has a new one.

      If my new car don’t last me 10 years I’m going be petty pissed off.

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      To be fair, those cars don’t just get set on fire when they’re done with them. They’re supplying the used car market.

      It’s a terrible idea financially, but it isn’t actually wasteful.

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        The demand from it does make car manufacturers to produce more cars. It also floods the market with newer cars, causing older ones being phased out from use earlier

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            It’s more about what happens after it stops running. If used cars are scarce and prices are high it makes a lot more sense to do that expensive engine repair. If used cars are cheap, you get more repairable cars going to the wrecker.

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    Hey, it was thanks to these kinds of people that I was able to buy a literally new Galaxy S24 for $300 like a month after release.

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      My wife’s Samsung Note10 is still going fine. Koodo is offering me a Pixel10 for free (no tab) if I choose direct banking withdraw option for my $50 phone plan instead of using my credit card monthly. They seem desperate.

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    I didn’t think it was real.

    But there it was…the network who some right wingers will say is a leftist cesspool…engaged in full-blown end-stage capitalism.

    I mean…it still seems like satire. The article talking about how using your phone for 22 months puts strain on the network because it has to become backwards compatible…or how the repair market is unregulated (ie a black market) and therefore damages the economy.

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    “Costing the economy”

    Thankfully wealth horders aka. billionaires pouring money into offshore bank accounts, unaffordable real estate, government bonds, and inflated stocks are all in our benefit. Only us peasants are being selfish.

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        But they are so generous because they are protecting the rainforest in subsuharen Africa or something. Case closed, no need for tax reform, they know better and are better.

        Seriously, the belittling nature of some these billionaires borders on perverse, Bezos mentioned something about how he likes to be looked at like a daddy to his employees.