Meta just announced that they are trying to integrate Threads with ActivityPub (Mastodon, Lemmy, etc.). We need to defederate them if we want to avoid them pushing their crap into fediverse.

If you’re a server admin, please defederate Meta’s domain “threads.net

If you don’t run your own server, please ask your server admin to defederate “threads.net”.

  • Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org
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    14 days ago

    Better yet, I’ll request the admin specifically to federate with Threads, so that I can move across the stuff that I care about to mbin from the Threads app.

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    3 months ago

    For default, they are unfederated in threads.

    Also, are you sure you want the mass don’t know what the federated web is? We are a low number of users. If we want to me the new standard of internet, we need the people to know what de Fediverse is. And threads can be that first door, and then they can start to spread to other more suitable stances.

    I just want to extend the conversation.

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    Yeah dude let’s just federate with an instance maintained by a corporation that has undoubtedly caused a genocide in Myanmar by turning a blind eye to a far-right hate speech group that caused an entire fucking minority to flee into another country.

    I don’t get why people are supporting and saying “oh it must be up to the user” like bro this is the company we’re dealing with. Fuck that fuck threads fuck zuckerberg i don’t want his shit cancer near something that’s going well so far.

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    please take a look at the replies under zuck’s own post in threads.net and determine if that’s the type of content you want.

    for those who don’t want to visit, majority of the commentators are bots. some advertising crypto, and others asking for money.

    even if you think you can individually block those accounts, keep in mind the size of threads compared to fediverse.
    for Lemmy: monthly active users are barely 150K40K, while for threads it’s 100 million. there’s no chance you can control that inflow of bots.

    and if it still doesn’t convince you, you can read threads’ privacy policy, which states that they’ll gather all that pii if you interact with their content.

    most of the internet is already bigtech, I don’t want Lemmy to become another arm of it. though I have faith in my instance maintainer and dessalines, the dev.

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    1 year ago

    Comment stolen from user “copygirl” from blahaj.zone:

    Looks like they’ll be harvesting your data if you follow anyone from Threads, maybe even injecting ads. Unsure what happens to the data of people that get followed by a Threads user. A large part of the fediverse is here precisely because they want to escape corporate meddling, data-hoarding, advertising and other anti-user malpractices. There’s a number of people talking about this, here’s a recent post that highlights some of the things from their TOS.

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      Great thing about the fediverse

      People get to decide what they want from their platform

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        Surely you’re aware of the embrace, extend, extinguish corporate strategy.

        People only get to decide what they want from their platform until facebook starts extending the spec. Then your client will become incompatible with some posts, and so on and so forth.

        In summary, it’s a threat to the platform itself.

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        1 year ago

        Exactly, I hereby decide that I would like to ignore corporate efforts to undermine this burgeoning new platform. I furthermore reserve the right to complain about the loss of said platform in future years by claiming that it’s everyone elses fault for allowing corporate encroachment.

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      Yeah dude let’s just federate with an instance maintained by a corporation that has undoubtedly caused a genocide in Myanmar by turning a blind eye to a far-right hate speech group that caused an entire fucking minority to flee into another country.

      I don’t get why people are supporting and saying “oh it must be up to the user” like bro this is the company we’re dealing with. Fuck that fuck threads fuck zuckerberg i don’t want his shit cancer near something that’s going well so far.

    • xantoxis@lemmy.world
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      Then go join threads.net? Nobody’s stopping you from doing that. That would put you on a server friendly to your beliefs.

      Server admins also have opinions, and are not required to take a democratic vote and each individual user’s choice into account. They can decide for themselves, and they will, for good or ill. If you don’t like where it ends up, your user decision should be to fuck off to threads.

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      This is a bigger issue to leave it to users imo. Like lemm.ee admin said a few months ago, threads is too fucking big.

      Anything they push on the fediverse will be what users see in All. Plus, popular stuff on threads is determined through Facebook’s algorithm, and it will also determine the fediverse recommendations by consequence.

      The above is solvable if you block them I guess, but by default it will completely ruin everything.

      However, lemmy 0.19 block feature doesn’t work on users of an instance, only posts hosted in an instance. Add to this that Facebook is a cancerous company making all its money from ads. Expect their bots to comment and make posts pushing ads on all instances.

      All of this will also mean high workload on mods to regulate the content. Threads doesn’t bring anything good here, and defederation is probably the only way to protect us.

    • Draconic NEO@lemmy.world
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      You have the full right to decide, you can switch servers to one that chooses to, or open multiple accounts. That’s your choice. This isn’t Nostr, in the Fediverse instance blocking is normal and it happens without your input, but you know what does happen with your input? Registering your account on a server that fits your needs best, or as close as possible.

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      Generally, yes. Perhaps unpopularly, I don’t need to decide about suddenly having meta content in Lemmy. I expect that’s not ever gonna happen.

      Having Elongated Musk or Fart Suckerberg in my stream cannot be the default, but at best, opt in.

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      1 year ago

      This is why I don’t understand all the hysteria about this.

      If I don’t want to see Threads or I don’t want Threads to see me, I can go to a Threads account and click “block threads.net”.

      But obviously that’s too complicated and it’s easier to just whinge to your instance admin about how Threads federation will be the death of us all. 🙄

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    In favor of defederation. If I start seeing garbage from threads in my feed, I’m switching instances. I don’t want Meta pushing their divisive, hateful, misinformation all up in my feeds. Meta will kill fedi. We don’t need them.

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    If anybody remembers XMPP being widespread and what Facebook, Google, Apple and others (say, I personally remember VK and Yandex in Russia supporting it) did to it, that’s what will happen if you “wait and see”.

    EDIT: oh, half the thread is such comments

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    1 year ago

    Currently, I think there are two main branches of ActivityPub implementations: Microblogs(Mastodon and its forks, the microblog portion of kbin), which are user centric, and group based aggregators(Lemmy, Kbin, peertube, future Pixelfed), both of which are valid implementations, however, they don’t really work well with each other.

    So, I believe that the threat of Threads to Lemmy instances is really overblown for the simple reason that there is no way for a Lemmy user to browse microblog contents through federation to begin with, whether it be Mastodon or Threads.

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    Let’s not defederate from every corporate player. Some of them can probably respect reasonable rules of civility.

    But fuck Meta. We already know how this plays out.

    We know there’s a huge wave of hatred and misinformation incoming. We’ve seen it on their other platforms.

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    We should avoid making blanket demands like this to the fediverse as a whole. I happen to support your position, but we should take into account the diverse nature of the social web.

    Instead of making demands, explain your reasoning and leave each community to make up their own mind. This is the beautiful nature of the social web; we have broken decision making down into many smaller units instead of one mega instance/corporation.

    Find a community that resonates with your own thinking on this issue, and over time a thousand different servers will gather experiences and a picture will start to form; was federation with Meta a good or a bad thing?