• jordanlund@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    No, I’m saying you need to differentiate crimes where someone went out intending to shoot a bunch of people, from crimes where a bunch of people ended up being shot through bad circumstances.

    It’s the difference between 4 people dying in a car accident vs. someone intentionally driving over 4 people. It’s a different class of crime.

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        11 months ago

        Absolutely, people get accidentally shot all the time.

        If you have two angry groups of people shooting at each other I doubt they’re doing much in the way of good target discipline.

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          11 months ago

          Absolutely, people get accidentally shot all the time.

          Not in my country 😂

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            11 months ago

            Ah, but in your country you lack the freedom to be accidentally shot along with at least 3 other people not including the shooter, so who really loses here? 😏

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      11 months ago

      Sure they are different classes of crime… And all would occur fewer times if we had better gun laws.

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        11 months ago

        Better laws, not just gun laws. That’s my whole point. The current Supreme Court is leaning towards fewer gun restrictions, not more. We CAN change that, but it will likely take decades of voting for Democrats.

        Until then, we need to get it out of our heads that we can ban guns. The court isn’t going to allow that and every ruling they strike down makes it worse.

        We need to look at OTHER laws we can pass that don’t involve the 2nd Amendment.

        We already have background checks, but what shows up on a background check is flawed, that needs to change.

        We have red flag laws, but there’s no consistent standard for who can invoke them and when and not all states have them, we might want to consider a national red flag law.

        Those are the discussions we need to have, but aren’t having, because people are hung up talking about things the court will never allow.