The National Science Foundation, the federal agency that oversees the U.S. Antarctic Program, published a report in 2022 in which 59% of women said they’d experienced harassment or assault while on the ice, and 72% of women said such behavior was a problem in Antarctica.
But the problem goes beyond the harassment, The Associated Press found. In reviewing court records and internal communications, and in interviews with more than a dozen current and former employees, the AP uncovered a pattern of women who said their claims of harassment or assault were minimized by their employers, often leading to them or others being put in further danger.
I had a female friend/coworker that had previously served in the Navy, on a carrier as a communications specialist. She told stories of endless harassment. She said ultimately some of the women crafted partnerships with other female sailors and convinced everyone they were lesbians in order to just survive the job. It meant they had to spend lots of time together and play the part. She also said they had to work the jealousy angle because nobody wanted to be attacked by an angry lesbian girlfriend.
The male sailors assumed a lot of the women were lesbians because of the masculine nature of the work, or, as she put it, because they couldn’t believe the women weren’t attracted to them. It turned out if you gave them a plausible explanation you could fake your way through it. Without a plausible explanation, they could become resentful and dangerous. I asked if claiming to be married and/or have kids would work, she said it wasn’t as effective and you ultimately needed female allies anyway. She also said that actual lesbians would pretend to “date” hetero women in order to protect them. She kind of described it as leveraging the power of rumors.
I told her it sounded a lot like what happens in prison. She said in some ways, it was a prison.
This. This is why humanity cannot have nice things.
Because humanity is not a nice thing?
Eh, humanity has a lot going for it.
Just not all of it.
Well, it seems like every army is a prison
Lol and people want to talk about Mars missions.
We are so fucked.
Only possible if you do an all female mission imo.
All male mission -> they kill each other
Mixed mission -> they kill the women and probably themselves after
Edit: Lmao lots of insecure men around here.
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Never heard of this, do you have a source?
I found this study about the differences (but it’s from 2014, please tell me if you find a more recent one) The Impact of Sex and Gender on Adaptation to Space: Executive Summary.
TL;DR female astronauts have, according to the study:
- a higher risk of cancer (a 45-year-old man has a 344-day limit in space to be safe versus a 187-day limit for a 45-year-old woman)
- more orthostatic intolerance
- more UTIs (which makes sense as women on earth are also more likely to have UTIs)
- less vision impairment compared to male astronauts (no clinically significant cases of VIIP syndrome)
- less hearing problems (men show a more rapid decline in the left ear and in general like on Earth)
Keep in mind that this data is not the best because only around 20% of people that had been on the ISS at the time were women and because male astronauts are more likely to come from a military background.less hearing problems (men show a more rapid decline in the left ear and in general as well)
Did the study mention why the left ear was more of a problem?
No, here is the relevant paragraph:
Hearing sensitivity, when measured at most frequencies, declines much more rapidly in male astronauts than it does in female astronauts. These LSAH derived data represent a wide age range of subjects (i.e., four decades) and show a more rapid decline in hearing in the left ear, for men only. Within the general population, hearing also declines more rapidly in men than in women, due in part to environmental factors or occupational exposure (e.g., construction or factory work). No evidence suggests that the sex-based hearing differences in the astronaut population are related to microgravity exposure, and the small sample size of female astronauts precludes making any definitive conclusions.
Thanks. It’s so weird that it affects the left ear of men more. Love to know what makes the left ear more susceptible to damage than the right.
Fascinating. We def need more info on this, and a bigger sample size.
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Weirdest dysphoria ever
Spoken like someone that’s never seen a woman’s restroom.
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Yeah, as a woman, I’d be real hesitant about taking a job out there, or any place thats more wild-west in nature (very few people and very lax regulation of any laws) and I’d sure as hell take gun tactical training before going, and always have a firearm on me.
You have to fly through New Zealand so I’m guessing no guns are allowed.
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I’m sure guns are flying through no problem, just not in your handbag. Most likely in a checked bag and probably requiring a gun license.
NOPE. You cannot bring guns to Antarctica.
Well, what I said still stands, you can fly guns through NZ no problem.
But knowing I couldnt bring one in to Antarctica is just another reason why I wouldn’t go as a woman, personally. Unable to protect myself if I need to.
Well, what I said still stands, you can fly guns through NZ no problem.
Not to antarctica.
But knowing I couldnt bring one in to Antarctica is just another reason why I wouldn’t go as a woman, personally. Unable to protect myself if I need to.
knowing you would require a firearm to feel safe probably indicates you wouldn’t be invited in the first place, so this is less of an issue.
Ohhh, the “it doesn’t happen, and if it does, it doesn’t matter anyway,” type argument. Love those.
Also, the user above was saying NZ would be the stopping point. Do you just have a hard time deciphering these things?
the entire premise of the discussion was for the purpose of mythical people thinking they needed firearms to serve imaginary time on antarctica. someone said they’d take their gun, I pointed out no guns in Antarctica, someone said they could bring it through newzedland, and that’s true, but still not to antarctica, the subject of the discussion.
funny enough, you probably still can’t bring firearms to new zealand it turns out - https://www.customs.govt.nz/personal/prohibited-and-restricted-items/firearms-and-weapons/#:~:text=You need a New Zealand,by the New Zealand Police.
What part of the premise are you having trouble with sparky?
But that narrative doesn’t support the anti gun ideology. they want everyone disarmed so the strong can once again shuffle the weak in any direction they choose. it makes them so mad that they have to think twice about sexual assault or else they get blown away. its like a condom, those convincing you that you don’t need one, means you really really need one.
edit: so mad 😎
triple digit mad lets fucking Goooooo! 🤣
Your downvotes mean you like women undefended and unprotected. that’s kinda sorta a bunch fucked up. please find peace in your lives where you aren’t afraid of guns because you just want to rape unopposed.
what’s the slow down? Let’s hit 4 digi mad!
Your downvotes mean you like women undefended and unprotected. that’s kinda sorta a bunch fucked up.
guns are much more likely to be used to commit sexual violence than stop sexual violence. this entire premise is fucked up.
https://www.amnesty.org/en/what-we-do/arms-control/gun-violence/
https://jaapl.org/content/early/2020/02/05/JAAPL.003929-20
https://giffords.org/lawcenter/gun-laws/policy-areas/who-can-have-a-gun/domestic-violence-firearms/
https://www.americanprogress.org/article/guns-and-violence-against-women/
The impact of gun violence against women goes beyond fatal encounters. A 2016 study found that nearly 1 million women alive at that time had been shot by an intimate partner, and 4.5 million women had been threatened with a firearm.4 Firearms have long been used as a tool of power and control to instill fear and inflict abuse on women—with women of color, people in the LGBTQ community, and women with disabilities being disproportionately affected.5
I get that you think you’re some righteous crusader for women’s safety but the more guns solution hasn’t worked - there are more guns than people in the US; how many more guns do we need until you admit your hypothesis is wrong? What’s the number, 500 million?
20 per person? Keep in mind, the more guns there are in the population, the more domestic abusers will use them to intimidate and violate their victims. So when do we get to safety through guns?
Make it make sense.
I’m not surprised by this but it makes me wonder how many women in these instances had a gun on them. Are men more likely to have a gun than the woman? You seem more familiar with the topic than I. Is that stated in any of the articles?
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so if it’s human nature to murder, we should make sure more people have access to easily available tools with which to murder people?
come on, you’re half way there…
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ignorant fuckwits like you assume people are scared when they disagree with arms being spread amongst the populace.
Die mad? What’s got your panties in such a bunch lil dude?
We both live in a world with Australia too. Read some fucking history you bellend.
And points - big ones - for being so afraid of taking guns back that the solution to the mass murders occurring ALL THE FUCKING TIME NOW is - wait for it - MORE GUNS!
Goddamn that’s stupid.
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Uhhh, please clarify. How to make nature kill and why you say you are ill?
Who’s mad again? Lol
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Not the ranter in favor of dead children tho
And making his way into the ring, weighing a steady 350 pounds after training on Stardew Valley, vegan Oreos and Mountain Dew, it’s The Agenda Pusher!
Here to derail any meaningful conversation on any topic and make it all about his pet political issue, he’ll topple you with his signature move, The Forum Slide, where in one post he’ll turn any discussion into a shit-flinging flame war where everyone will forget what they were originally talking about in the first place!
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Ah yes, the idea that mass shootings are aided by guns is just unthinkable
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edit: so mad 😎
They get mad when reality disagrees with them. Big mad. As in to say most of the time
they get mad because it’s bullshit. a stupid hypothesis backed by a bunch of fearmongering and frothed spittle.
riddle me this, gunman: how many guns until we’re ‘safe’?
we’ve got more guns than people. so what’s it gonna take? 4 per person? 10? Do we need six billion guns so every american can count 20 in their home arsenal? Does that get us to safe?
pretty fucking stupid premise.
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good question! do you think more firearms would make the rapists less likely to have a gun, or more likely?
I’ll wait over here while you figure this out.
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aw, got your feelings hurt? poor baby.
we’re all gonna die you schmuck, you’re probably just going to go in a ‘cleaning accident’.
Your downvotes mean you like women undefended and unprotected. that’s kinda sorta a bunch fucked up. please find peace in your lives where you aren’t afraid of guns because you just want to rape unopposed.
LOL. no, it doesnt.
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She specifically said “training”, which on its own immediately goes against whatever insane ideology you’re selling.
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I agree. I’m glad to have one.
We’re just ignoring the sign that damn near reads “McMurder Station”?
Buckingham was hired by PAE. Amentum didn’t respond to questions from the AP. Leidos Senior Vice President Melissa Lee Dueñas said it conducts background checks on all its employees.
“Our stance on sexual harassment or assault couldn’t be more clear: we have zero tolerance for such behavior,” Dueñas said in an email. “Each case is thoroughly investigated.”
Translates to 1) We thoroughly investigate and hire sexual predators and 2) We say this b.s. to protect our jobs, actually we have zero tolerance for those who complain about sexual harassment.
The report made it clear that those in charge enable sexual predators.
Being alone in the middle of a literal ice desert with a lot of male nerds so socially awkward that they rather be in the middle of an ice desert sounds like an absolute disaster.
One of them carried a hammer held by her bra. Wild. The person in charge of this place should be facing criminal charges.
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Same goes for women in Elmo Musk’s factories.
Makes you wonder what challenges women will face in future space exploration missions. Long periods of isolation with groups of coworkers with very little personal space. Not like a belligerent party can be ejected out the airlock (It’'ll probably happen who am I kidding)
there’s no doubt that sexual predation would be a big issue and that women would be the first victims of any violence, but it’s just part of the greater concern over authority in such a small society… who is in charge, how are rules enforced and misbehavior punished… i’m not optimistic that a Mars outpost would be able to survive its own judicial system, for example… or any of the prepper compounds… they’re sort of all guaranteed to descend into really barbaric circumstances socially…
or any of the prepper compounds
You wouldn’t want to be stuck for a long time in a society made up exclusively of people with severe anxiety and personal issues who reject society? I can’t imagine why.
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Guns would only make the situation worse.
Guns make EVERY situation worse. Statistics have shown that.
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