Is that an original tanker’s 1911?!
It’s some Star model pistol, looks like a 1911 but not quite, and in 9mm.
Are you able to read the stamp, or is there some other way you can tell?
There’s some subtle differences in the frame shape and other things that I’m too dumb to articulate. The only marks I can see are import marks from “CAI” - Century International Arms, which would be strange to see on a USGI 1911.
I think this model is a Star BM, and surplus retailers were hocking these things for ~$250-300, about 6/7 years ago. I almost got one but decided against it.
Thanks! Except for the safety, it really looks like a WWII or earlier tanker’s sidearm. The shorter barrel, duck tail, hammer, wear and tear, grips, all that.
Just noticed, no grip safety, thought the backstrap looked odd.
EDIT: You’re exactly right.
Some board room somewhere
Bossman "Alright team, what should we change to ensure our company is not seen as racist according to white people on twitter?
Person 1 “Increase represtation of different races and cultures across our brands?” ejector seat activated
Person 2 “Hire someone qualified to have this conversion?” ejector seat activated
Person 3 "Get rid of Aunt Jemima so people don’t accosiate our brand with black people anymore?
Bossman “brilliant! Someone get me a raise for coming up with that.”
It’s not about associating the brand with black people. Aunt Jemima was a mammy, straight out of a ministrel show. She was a racist stereotype of the loving and attentive house slave
They could have come up with a new character…instead they got rid of it all together. Just say its Jemima’s niece who carries on the recipe.
Bro my syrup doesn’t need lore.
Why not? my cereal does.
You’re a monster if you’re putting syrup on cereal!
Darrn…I guess that means I’m not a monster.
Fuck that shit, I’m all about the Breakfast Canon
No, she was an accurate depiction of actual Black Southern grandmas, both pre and post slavery. The whole “this represents slavery” thing was bullshit cooked up by white people. My 3rd grade teacher looked EXACTLY like Aunt Jemima and she made some bomb-ass cookies.
Reminds me of land o lakes butter. They got rid of the indian but they kept the land.
They ruined it!
My dad did that in the late 70s and had it inside one of our kitchen cabinets for basically my whole childhood.
Bart Simpson made that joke once, I think they cut it out of future re-runs because religious zealots got mad about it.
Ah, so he did! I’d forgotten about that. The first time I saw it was in a Beavis and Butt-head comic.
THAT is absolutely the same “point” I made when I first saw it?!!
Ok, so, the person was bad to show, I guess, but now it’s an even better analogy to what the settlers did…
I honestly don’t know why “it’s bad to show”. Like, if the person on the packet isn’t a white man, it’s bad.
We had these growing up in Australia…
Like, that I get now, but it’s worth pointing out no kid in Australia obviously even knew what a “redskin” was. Hell, I thought Comanches and Apaches were snakes because of the Huey Cobra.
Wait a second… Oh my god, just realised a Blackhawk isn’t named after a hawk, this is also a native American peoples. Like the NHL team, duh. And that’s my wife’s second fav team because she thinks it’s a cool logo and “I’m glad they’re repping the native Americans.”
See?
Anyway, I strayed from my point. I really like seeing other cultures on stuff. Seems a shame to remove that stuff, kind of disingenuous or disrespectful. If there’s a dark history, no one’s researching that, they’re more interested in other things like buttering some toast and then deciding to put a documentary about native Americans on because of the cool image.
Maybe if your only reference to a culture is an insulting one, they’d rather you not have an impression at all. Though I dunno much about Australia. That bunch of bogans seem to like people to think bad about them.
Can’t tell if your comment is ironic or bait attempt…
I really like seeing other cultures on stuff. Seems a shame to remove that stuff, kind of disingenuous or disrespectful.
This would be true if what you were seeing was culturally representative. “Redskin” is a racial slur and the images on that package are racist caricatures. All of it was created by white men, using Native Americans as mascot for their product.
These images were not created by or for Native Americans, and they are racist and insulting.
The most disrespectful thing you could do is to keep using images like this. The most disingenuous thing you could do is argue that they earnestly represent the cultures they depict.
I don’t see how that’s racism. There’s no discrimination of traits, assertion of superiority or inferiority of races, and it’s actually being used to help sell a product and brand identity which requires.positivity.and.attraction from others.
Culturally inappropriate? Sure, could be. That’s up to that culture to determine and advise though. But we know the artist was also of the same group of indigenlus people.
The artist responsible for redesigning the Land O’Lakes logo in 1954 and creating the iconic image of the Native American woman was Patrick DesJarlait. DesJarlait was an Ojibwe artist from Red Lake, Minnesota, and his design has become closely associated with the Land O’Lakes brand.
Ask yourself why Aunt Jemima was chosen long ago. What stereotype did she represent? What is her back story supposed to be? … That is the obvious starting point.
I don’t think it’s hard to connect the dots on this one.
As a general position, hiring a minority to produce art doesn’t mean that all uses of the art are positive.
What is her back story supposed to be?
An old motherly Southern Black woman. Reminds me of any number of real life people I’ve known. The whole “depicting Black people is racism” thing was cooked up by and for white people.
Well that’s kind of funny. You’re right that white people cooked up her image. And they did so specifically with the idea that she would fit that stereotype of the older slave woman who has always worked in the kitchen, and is happy to do so, and because of that she’s really good at cooking.
By the way, the word “aunt” was not used to be respectful, but rather specifically to be disrespectful. That particular nuance has faded over time, but the history is real, and once you learn it you can’t forget it.
The sad thing is, you could have inferred this without looking it up. You could have asked yourself why they didn’t use a cartoon character of a white woman, with a white sounding name. The fact that you didn’t, and that you didn’t bother doing a web search, shows how much you want to avoid seeing racism in the modern world. But just because you don’t want to look at it doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. Reality is not that kind, my friend.
Finally, don’t take my word for it. Ask the company itself why they changed the name. They have documentation on the subject.
Unless you’re talking specifically to an anti racist audience, you really gotta explain what revisionist history mammy meant for those who want to whitewash the antebellum south. Even then there will be plenty that are willfully ignorant.
This is pretty much how I feel about it. Heck my ancestry is French and I’m still salty as hell over Pepe LePew vanishing from existence.
As is tradition.
What I love, is that it was an Ojibwe woman that was illustrated by an Ojibwe. It was done out of honor and respect…
Then someone decided to get rid of her… Feel free to read into that.
This, the woman behind Aunt Jemima has a pretty progressive history as well. This just reaks of the usual problems we get from Liberal Virtue Signalling. Creating something incredibly offensive in a poor attempt to be less offensive.
Remember when Cartoon Network discontinued Speedy Gonzales because white people called the character racist, only to reinstate him when Latino and Hispanic watchers were like “Where’s the only Looney Tune that represents us in anyway?”
Some company decided to change their logo because it looks dated and might give the wrong impression. How is this even a problem?
As for liberals causing problems, yeah maybe they go a bit too far some times and can be over sensitive. But the other side is literally trying to take us back to theocracy, where women only have the rights their husbands will allow them. They’re not even pretending otherwise any more. I’ll take oversensitive over that any day.
I know, I’m not saying I support the Republicans, but the Democrats don’t actively want me dead so I reluctantly support them. However, I do ask people acknowledge the difference between Leftists and Liberals.
And the issue is that their attempt at being less racist, resulted in the erasure of black people… which is in and of itself more racist than the logo ever was.
She’s YOUR property after all.
All that drama for dyed corn syrup.
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Real maple syrup is better. Fight me.
Maple is good, but sometimes I want my butter flavored brown goop on my plain egg and bread French toast because that’s one of the two childhood comfort foods I crave to this day
No one in their right mind would disagree with your position.
I might be the 10th dentist but I grew up with the fake stuff and enjoy it far more. I didn’t understand why all of the “nice syrups” tasted awful comparatively.
On an episode of Kitchen Nightmares, Gordon Ramsay gave this chef two similar dishes, and I believe the chef enjoyed the one that tasted like instant microwave food. So you probably just have shit taste. Fortunately, once Ramsay cooked some good food up for the guy, he shed tears and loved it. There is hope for you yet.
Diabetes? Yes, that’s how it works… Once you have it they won’t be able to take her away from you
Well Wilford my Brimley and call me a doctor…that there is liquid Dia-Beetus
This actually came out a few days before the brand change: https://www.theonion.com/quaker-oats-replaces-historically-racist-aunt-jemima-ma-1844015205
Americans and their high fructose corn syrup addiction.
HFCS doesn’t kill people, it’s the cardiac diseases and cancers that do!
American manufacturers. We’re stuck with what we get and that shit’s in everything.
Most anyone you’d ask here will tell you they prefer sugar and we’ll take that option whenever it’s available and not stupidly expensive.
It’s the cheapest sugar option in the us, so it goes in everything that’s not a “premium” brand, and even then it might still have it in there.
And products that “remove” it replace it with glucose-fructose, or sometimes even pure fructose, which hilariously shows both that companies don’t give a fuck, AND consumers are really stupid on average.
Both things can be true.
Putting a pig in a dress doesnt change the pig
But what if you put lipstick on it
Still a pig
A buddy of mine and I did some research into the real-life aunt Jemima.
Apparently she was a really cool lady.
The African American Registry of the United States suggests Nancy Green and others who played the caricature of Aunt Jemima should be celebrated despite what has been widely condemned as a stereotypical and racist brand image. The registry wrote, “We celebrate the birth of Nancy Green in 1834. She was a Black storyteller and one of the first Black corporate models in the United States.”
Her financial freedom and stature as a national spokesperson enabled her to become a leading advocate against poverty and in favor of equal rights for the black population. She used her stature as a spokesperson to advocate against poverty and in favor of equal rights for individuals in Chicago.
So instead of celebrating her on the bottle, or doing something to recognize her… They go the other direction and just remove her.
Activists tripping over their own feet…as usual.
Eyup, this is how you know it’s performative instead of actually fighitng racism.
I saw news reporting about it at the time, and if I recall correctly her descendants were actually proud of her being the mascot and thought it was cool.
Reminds me of when they tried to kill Speedy Gonzales. It sure as heck wasn’t mexicans that were complaining then, we love that little mofo.
“Her descendants like her image being on the syrup bottles! BUT THAT’S A HECKIN RACISM!”
I know it’s all messed up and just in case I’m not ok’ing racism that’s for sure.
I thought the breakfast gun went on the left side of the table?
Clearly this is propaganda!
Only if you’re a lefty.
Cross-drawing at the table is rude.
Probably AI made
Probably a la mode’
The table isn’t set for breakfast yet.
What are you talking about? The breakfast gun is there. Table set.
/sI forgot what passes for dining in some parts of the country.
So from is in the left because there is for letters in left and four in fork. So what side does the gun go?
I think you might be having a stroke.
Wow, that was a bad one. User name check out? Lol
No no, breakfast gun goes on the right side, what’s wrong is it’s laying the wrong way.
This guy eats breakfast safely
That pistol appears to be cocked and not locked (safety off). I seriously hope there’s no round chambered.
I really wish someone would create a “loud honky” brand mascot…
Guy Fieri?
The good ol Carolina Mop and Slop.
That’s not a euphemism.
No one better fucking cancel Guy Fieri or so help me I will kick their ass six ways from Flavortown
I came here for a sensible chuckle, not to have my fucking mind blown.
They already made Guy Fieri bro
Last time I saw white people get this fanatical over a black woman it was because she was handing them free minivans.
On investing in better materials that are better for people and the environment. The other marketing…