She’s already broken barriers, and now Kamala Harris could shatter several more after President Joe Biden abruptly ended his reelection bid and endorsed her.
Biden announced Sunday that he was stepping aside after a disastrous debate performance catalyzed fears that the 81-year-old was too frail for a second term.
Harris is the first woman, Black person or person of South Asian descent to serve as vice president. If she becomes the Democratic nominee and defeats Republican candidate Donald Trump in November, she would be the first woman to serve as president.
Biden said Sunday that choosing Harris as his running mate was “the best decision I’ve made” and endorsed her as his successor.
I’ve seen her on TV before. But I didn’t know she was black before today.
Her dad is Jamaican and her mom is Indian. Her dad might be half black, I’m not sure. I keep seeing republican memes saying she’s not black or 25% black. Just endless memes trying to attack her on anything they can. Like, that’s not even important, we have a real competent candidate and that’s more than I can say about Dump.
It is weird to call her black, she’s as much Indian as she is African. It’s like the racist “1 drop” thing, where if you have any black ancestors you are defacto black, except in this case supposedly woke people are using it as a selling point
I fear a Harris win. Not because I don’t want her to win. But because if the likes of Trump was the conservative response to Obama… I can’t fathom the horrible person they will come up with in response to Kamala.
Most likely It’ll be Dump again
Maybe if we hit their cult afraid button hard enough they’ll Jonestown themselves? Mix up ninety thousand tons of It Was Actually Flavor-Aid?
A younger trump?
Let’s shine a light on that. Force “moderate” conservatives to come out and admit that they’re just racists and nothing more. They’re cowards first and foremost.
This is a tribal affiliation game, let’s put what their tribe really stands for on blast so they lose social status. Their only friends should be other Nazis. There’s a lot of people on the fence who just want to be popular.
Right now these firsts are secondary compared to the real states of this election.
Does she support Netanyahu as unconditionally as Biden? I’ll vote for her anyway, but it would be nice if she actually took a stand against genocide. I’m probably asking too much, though.
As it turns out, no:
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/03/26/kamala-harris-joe-biden-israel-00148955
She’s a cop. ACAB. Didn’t like her when I voted for Biden the first time, don’t like her now.
But she isn’t Trump, and that’s enough for now.
Will she earn votes? Gonna have to do some work.
Someone asked me what I thought about Biden dropping out. I said, it doesn’t matter. I am over policy, specifically NOT horrible policies like Project 2025.
So… like… what policies do you support?
And first Indian or non-white President as well. Don’t know why people have trouble saying that.
This what i heard on the BBC.
edit: they said, “Indian-American”
Right? Not hearing this in the US.
to be fair, i’m in the US. i heard it on the BBC Global News Podcast ;)
i like to hear global takes on our
dumpster firedomestic eventsI just meant from US outlets. Everyone is focusing on either female, or black components. She’s a fucking person, CNN, just address all the things, FFS. If anything, that should lock in MORE votes, so I hope the campaign is out front and center making this a thing.
if i were to speculate, it’s because Biden heavily carried the black vote in 2020 and that has been majorly slipping this time around-- something the DNC is very much hoping to capture with a Harris nomination. Now, I’m no pollster, but it wouldn’t surprise me if that works.
many voters don’t know that she’s of Indian heritage and just incorrectly assume she’s of African ancestry. Presumably, that’s why there hasn’t been much of a public effort to make a correction.
Oh, I totally agree. It’s just disappointing to see.
She wasn’t carrying the black vote when she ran in the 2020 primary. Her record shows her to be staunchly pro establishment. She wasn’t progressive as a prosecutor or as Attorney General, she opposed and obstructed police reform in California when she was in the best position to get anything done. Maybe black voters will ultimately back her if she gets nominated but her support among black voters isn’t a good argument for nominating her because it isn’t strong.
if she gets to the white house, I think it will be proudly said many, many more times.
Why does Obama’s white mother determine how you refer to him instead of his black father, I wonder
I wonder if you don’t understand the phrase “non-white”. Do you get that concept, or are you a glass half full kind of racist?
So to be extra simple about it, she’d be the first yellow-brown, where as Obama was white-brown.
In terms of american racism its just the brown part that matters, that makes them both “black” and there was even past comments about Harris not being “black enough” or something to that effect.
It makes more sense to call her the first Asian America that might be president if you want a “first” to claim.
Why doesn’t Obama’s blackness count? Does a little whiteness trump all his blackness for you?
Do you see how fucking stupid this is yet? Everyone understands what you’re saying. It’s just dumb as fuck. Obama identifies as black. The country sees him as black. Many black folk identify him as black. You calling him white is a self-report by you.
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And first Indian or non-white President as well. Don’t know why people have trouble saying that.
If she was Indian she wouldn’t be eligible to be president; they did say “South Asian decent” though.
And are you saying Obama was white? I must be missing something here.
It’s obviously meant as indian-american.
So some words we’re going to take strictly literally but some words were going to take with simple intention?
Why would you think she’s literally from India? What tf are you even talking about.
Did you also want to see Obamas Kenya birth certificate lol
I was talking about the poster I was replying to expecting people to take “non-white” in a very literal way, meanwhile using “Indian” in a non-literal way.
Like, who complains about a news outlet not referring to her as Indian when they did say “South Asian decent”?
Anyway, they’re no longer the top comment and have been downvoted appropriately, so I’m not really worried about it any more.
Sorry if I offended you, though. Wasn’t trying to be offensive.
Ah gotcha, I see what you mean now.
Oh no worries my friend. Same here.
I really have to stop going into political posts for a few months.Enjoy your evening
There are TWO people in here not knowing something that should be known. What in the actual fuck.
Also, how old are you? I’d like to know so I can place my mental shame on whatever generation doesn’t know who is eligible to be president in the US. It makes me awfully sad.
Dude, it’s a matter of linguistics and ethnic identity. Everyone here knows Obama has a white mother. You’re just being intentionally combative and taking advantage of the fact that most people - including Obama himself - identify him as black.
Yes, I’m obviously being combative by pointing out that Kamala Harris is non-white, and would be the first such President and it’s a big deal, and then giving shit to the few who tried to bring up Obama and didn’t realize he was half white.
Again, this is just linguistics games. Obama is the first non-white president if your definition of “non-white” is something like, “A person whose ethnicity/ethnic identity is something other than white.” Assuming she wins, Harris will be the first non-white president if your definition of “non-white” is something like, “A person whose ancestry does not include any Caucasians.”
Or rather, she would be if her father didn’t have any Caucasian ancestry. But he does. You knew that, didn’t you? Didn’t you?
No, Obama was the first Black President, sure. But he was not the only non-white President.
Maybe to you, but it’s not. It’s a huge thing that she is the first non-white President. Nobody in the populous gives a shit what they identify as. In her case, she’s black and Indian, and any voters who identify with that will feel less disenfranchised about her winning.
What you’re describing is some weird Rachel Dolezol shit. Nobody wants that.
Oh, for fuck’s sake… No, what I’m describing is a logical problem with your statements.
First, let’s get this out of the way: Race is a social construct. We differentiate between “black” and “white” in large part because of racism. Ta-Nehisi Coates has written a lot about how without racism, we wouldn’t perceive each other as different because of such a tiny variation as the color of our skin, and I tend to think he’s right. Concepts of race, as opposed to minor genetic variance, are predicated on racism.
With that said, when you call someone “non-white,” you can mean it in the technical sense of not having Caucasian ancestry, which applies to neither Obama nor Harris (which I’m positive you didn’t know until now, since you’ve been calling her “non-white” in this sense), or you can mean it in the sense of a social construct, which applies to both Obama and Harris.
There is no definition of “non-white” that applies to one, but not the other. Both have some Caucasian ancestry. Both are perceived socially as non-white because of how their bodies express certain alleles. Pick one definition and stick to it.
Figured this is what you meant. Imagine invoking the reverse One Drop Rule and thinking you have the superior position.
Yes, referring to Harris as the first “non-white President” somehow puts me in a position of power.
You drinking today?
bright spot. a bunch of readers knew exactly what you meant and went “huh! thats pretty cool.”
And first Indian or non-white President as well.
Bro…did you not know?
He doesn’t know everybody. Let’s let him figure this out on his own and see if his brain explodes.
I suppose you’re saying that since Obama’s mother was white that makes him part-white, but that’s not really how race works in the US. Maybe it should be that way, maybe it shouldn’t, but right now it doesn’t.
Sure it does. It also makes him half-black. It also makes Kamala Harris the first non-white President in US history.
I suggest you look up the history of race relations in the US and how we used to categorize whites and non-whites for legal purposes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_whiteness_in_the_United_States
Obama was equal parts white and black
Why only black? She is half Indian. I don’t recall an Indian president?
Oh right nobody cares about other minorities, only kicking out Mexicans and propping up African Americans. Everyone else be damned.
Also why is the presidency limited to natural born citizens? Most of the world except the US, most of South America and a smattering of other countries require this. Shouldn’t everyone who has worked to gain citizenship be afforded the right to run for office? Doesn’t sound very free to me.
I would argue it’s a security issue. I think it would be quite feasible for some foreign power to scoop up some 20 year old with nothing to lose and put them to the task of infiltrating America. In fact, stuff like that has already happened: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegals_Program
Nowadays it’s much easier to influence the public by just bombarding them with bs social media posts. Watch the documentary “The Great Hack”.
So ~85 percent of the world is insecure because a naturalized citizen can run for office?
All I’m saying is that it’s feasible, and very much in the interest of foreign powers to attempt to install people in positions of power. I think that’s a very cold take.
Ironically she’ll completely lose the black vote after enslaving them by imprisoning them over crimes like their children skipping school
By that logic Trump should gain them because he is a convicted felon.
Would she also be the first Asian person to become president?
No matter how much I despise Trump, this lady has zero chance.
Because?
Between the MAGA nuts and now throw in countless other sexist, misogynistic racist scum = Trump.
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These “non voters” are bunch of fickle assholes. “I won’t vote because Biden is old” “I won’t vote because Biden supports genocide”… Okay, how about a young candidate who doesn’t support genocide. “Oh…uh… hold on, I need to check the online troll posts to come up with a reason… oh, I won’t vote for Harris because (any reason they can find)”
They aren’t going to vote at all, they just want attention. No one should court them or care about them. Their only impact is to help Trump win with their nay saying. I say fuck those pieces of shit.
Please don’t ruin my Sunday afternoon euphoria.
You realize that people like you are just helping the Republicans win by pushing Democrats not to vote because “it’s a lost cause anyway”? Then again, it’s probably what you’re wishing for.
No. I hate that fake tanning bed imitator.
Then shut up about your opinion that everything is lost because that’s exactly what you’ll get if you don’t.
Fuck off. People need to find a better answer than Harris. Burying their heads in the sand doesn’t cut it.
The convention hasn’t happened yet, which alternative candidate(s) are you supporting for the dems? Why not just have that candidate be the VP pick?
Whitmer, Shapiro, Kelley… sorry, but, she can’t pull enough votes. Loser in the whole South. Also, no for TX and AZ.
I share your concerns but shes too new a candidate to have polling numbers reliably showing what states she’d be weak in. Wish it hadn’t been such a late switchup, certainly not ideal to fall back to Bidens VP suddenly like this but perhaps it catches the Trump campaign flat footed. Perhaps Vance wouldn’t have been the GOP VP pick if Trump had known he was up against Harris, seems to be some indication their campaign is struggling to pivot with regards to the switch.
Oh I see why you don’t care if Trump wins, you’re a CIS man, probably white as well, nothing will change for you
I certainly don’t want EmptyHumptyTrumpty to win. But, definitely love my white privilege.
Less electable then Hillary. How have we not learned this lesson!?
Nah, she’s never been a contender. Unless the DNC rallies behind her and the rest of us agree, she will be a small blip on the radar as she was before being put into the VP spot
Hopefully there is potency in someone who can speak full and coherant sentences! :-D You may be right but at the very least it’ll be nice to hear lucid speech again and we’ll soon see if it’s actually effective in the current climate! Wow the bar has been set low!?
Well this is just a silly take. Have you not watched the state of the unions during bidens presidency? He was a decent politician. That includes speeches.
Oh he definitly WAS. Still can be on occasion. But the debate, trailing of into incoherance. Recent major gafs mixing up Putin and Zelensky and mixing up Trump and Kamala Harris?! His interview after the debate was better but not great and the harsh fact is that he’s as good as he will ever be right now and only going to get worse with time. As for the other person I was really mostly referring to, Trump has been a babbling, gush of incoherrancy for years!
Lol or not, so we forget 2016? Her whole campaign run?
For those who wish to re learn: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamala_Harris_2020_presidential_campaign
Yes? It was that forgettable
Yeah that, or Donald fuckin trump?
What? Dude I’m voting for the D candidate no matter what. I’m just saying mrs Harris isn’t a strong candidate and has never been.
Fuck man lol
Nothing would irk Trump more than getting beat by a black woman.
Man. What a sweet thought. He’d probably have an aneurism.
Man now I want to vote Harris badly now! Obama wife would be a great VP really rub in watch Maga heads explode.
Michelle is a thoughtful and intelligent woman with some great experience, but I think she feels like she served her eight years, and has earned retirement (mostly) from politics. I tend to agree. That said, I’d be happy to vote for her in an election.
She cant be VP, it’s tacky to nominate your VP to the Supreme Court. ;)
Its probably already on the way. Its just a hilarious reality plot already thickening
He could drop out of the race now, so he can avoid that possibility.
I don’t care if it pisses him off. I just want him to lose.
I mean, it’s not the most important thing… But would it cause me joy? Yes.
Progressives should vote for her just to spite Hillary. Lol
That is the real question, is US of A ready for a woman presidency.
It is has been only 100 years women were given rights to vote. And couple of years more than 50 years to universal suffrage.
That’s nothing compared to nearly 300 years of its existence.
/s for those who couldn’t get it
Honestly more amped up more than ever that there’s a nominee under 60. God bless Biden for everything. That old turd Trump should realize he’s too old and drop out too.
She’ll be 60 by the time of the election though.
edit: it’s not a bad thing, she’s still a lot younger than both Biden and Trump so it’s a huge step in the right direction, I’m just pointing out that she won’t be under specifically 60.
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