Some Republicans are starting to seriously regret Donald Trump’s vice presidential nominee, Ohio Senator J.D. Vance.
It’s been only one week since Vance was nominated at the Republican National Convention, and already his own party members are expressing severe doubts about Trump’s pick. The former president’s allies have acknowledged that nominating Vance was the product of Trump’s absolute certainty that he would be able to defeat Joe Biden in November. While Vance wouldn’t do much for swing voters or independents, he would likely shore up support among Trump’s base.
But ever since Biden passed the torch to Vice President Kamala Harris, the Democratic Party’s new presumptive nominee, Republicans have begun to sour on Vance.
“The road got a lot harder. He was the only pick that wasn’t the safe pick. And I think everyone has now realized that,” one House Republican told Axios Thursday, under the condition of anonymity.
Another House Republican told Axios that Vance “doesn’t add much.”
They needed a running mate with a name similar to Pence so that Demented Donald could remember it.
I do outside sales in Ohio and I’m on the road a lot
The amount of people who have Trump / Pence signs and have put white tape over the P and E to make a V and A is … Surreal. Like why do you still have signs from an election 8 years ago? Their house is probably full of cats and hoard and bugs. Can’t wait to get updated signs?
It is a cult. Really pathetic how they hate other Americans so much they’ll burn the country down to make sure they’re miserable.
At least they’re recycling, I guess.
I’m in California. No one who has a Trump sign is spending money for a new one.
What are they talking about? Vance secures the couch fucker vote.
his previous VP was lame too, he wants the show all for himself
Poor JD, his grandma really did hate him for being a burdensome piece of shit.
And for what he did to her favorite sofa. He even took off the plastic cover - just raw digging it with no protection.
It’s not too late to swap him out. Eric Trump would be a big step up!
Wow! I never thought I would see those words ever written about Eric Trump. The sad part is that it’s true.
You know how some things are trashy when the poor do them, but accepted when the rich do them? Eric Trump is proof that “drinking heavily while pregnant” is one of those things.
Let’s not jump to conclusions until we get the couche’s side of the story.
The bigger the cushion…
Would that cushion the blow?
It ought to man.
So far, soooo good.
I guess I’m dumb or ignorant, but what’s the reference here?
Edit: nevermind, explained further down the thread
I both love and hate that this headline exists.
Ahem, they ended up pulling that article… presumably because he actually did have sex with a couch.
They pulled it because they can’t actually know if he did or didn’t. Good to see some journalistic integrity! Lol
Can’t prove a negative!
Many people are saying that JD did NOT fuck that couch. But then, many people are asking…I don’t know, were you THERE?
🤣
Between you and me… I think he did it
Your reason is the correct one… but I am happy to keep repeating that it’s because Vance is actually a sectional predator.
I really think the won’t be happy with anyone for too long. That’s the problem with a cult.
Any second-in-command that was actually popular would be a threat to Trump, so that cannot be tolerated. He’s got to find an uncharismatic sycophant smart enough to help him purge enemies, yet dumb enough to be incapable of plotting against him himself.
"Vance does worse in his home region at -16 points than he does in the average of all polls… So the people who know him best, the region that knows him best, they like him even less than America likes him.”
— Polling analyst Harry Enten, on CNN
Plus, betting markets have opened up on if he’ll be retained on the ticket.
And yet he still won a Senate seat. 😬😬😬
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Memers should be reimbursed.
So how many Scaramucci’s to each Vance?
2 Trusses tops
Plus, betting markets have opened up on if he’ll be retained on the ticket.
I’m not a betting man but I pretty much came to the comments to see if anyone else thought this too. “We” showed it’s “ok” to drop out this close to the election so I 100% believe they’re going to do the same with him and they can just have fox news say “the Democrats already did it so we’re doing it to get back at them!” because if there’s one thing maga loves more than beating up on (insert non cis/white/male people) it’s revenge.
Actually makes me wonder whether they’ll try to pressure Trump to quit, for these same reasons.
I mean, he definitely won’t quit, but they might try.
Even if they weren’t evil pieces of shit, they’d have every right to change the VP if they want.
I like him better than I like Trump, but then I want them to lose. I would vote for the corpse of Richard Nixon before I considered voting for either of them.
James Donald Bowman is his birth name. Tired of this ‘woke’ changing names agenda!
Wait… so the Republican ticket is James Donald and Donald John? Those fucking nerds.
What if we combine them? James Donald John TRANce. Think that’ll bring out more GOP voters?
I’m up for combining them, but only if it’s in some sort of weird human-centipede situation.
So where does the Vance part come in? Sounds like he wants to be an edgy pop guitar solo artist.
I love that there’s literally a video of Vance calling Trump a horrible person and they still picked him. Plus the whole couch-fucking thing. Good stuff.
A meme in our last local election for governor was, “Mark Ronchetti Fucks Dogs. Bad for dogs, bad for New Mexico.”
It was hugely successful. He was actively being cyber bullied on Twitter.
Is it because the couch had an abortion?
Vance has been so embroiled in gaffes, he hasn’t even really gotten to expound on any of his “new right” ideas, such as his phony brand of conservative economic populism, or creepy pronatalism, or terrifying techo-authoritarianism.
Trump’s campaign, however, released a statement doubling down on the former president’s increasingly unpopular pick.
“President Trump is thrilled with the choice he made with Senator Vance, and they are the perfect team to take back the White House,” said campaign spokesman Steven Cheung, according to Axios.
Phony, creepy, terrifying.
And Steven Cheung, you need to understand nobody represents trump who doesn’t get shit on. Just saying. It’s your future. Hopefully you can represent yourself at trial.
There must be a correlation with how hard campaigns double down and how close they are to actually reversing course.
Careful - you’re assigning reason, or at least logic, to the party of pizzagate, trump, a stupid failed coup, and drinking bleach.
History teaches us this is where logic and reason come to die.
There is. The more they stumble, the more they are questioned. The answers to the question cannot be anything but utmost certainty because “maybe” is simply not a message that sways anyone.
Pretty answers don’t change reality though, so the stumbles continue or even increase leading to more questions and the doubling down. You just can’t do anything else unless you’re ready to commit to another answer.
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It’s amazing how much Trump got played. The democrats had to know Biden was going to drop out when they scheduled the earliest presidential debate in history. It was all a show so people would demand Biden drop out before he actually dropped out.
And not only did Trump agree to it (cause his ego told him he would dominate), now he’s picked a god awful VP pick cause he thought he knew who his opponent was.
You are giving way to much credit to the capability of the democratic leadership.
While I’m normally inclined to agree, this presidential debate was both historic in how early it was and historic in how bad Biden performed. There is no reason to be this aggressive about scheduling unless they know he’s either going to fail epically, or succeed epically.
The only thing historic is about how utterly convinced that people are that Biden was awful in it.
I watched the debate. He wasnt 1/100th as awful as everyone has seemingly hallucinated themselves into thinking thanks to an endless avalance of propaganda screaming “BIDEN FAILED/INCOMPETENT,HUMILIATED/ETC”
The most awful thing about the fucking debate is the moderator kept letting trump go off on rants and not correcting/stoping him. Bidens performance isnt even in the top 3.
People are allowed to have different opinions. Yours just happens to be in the minority.
Yeah, its amazing how that happens when you focus on facts and ignore groupthink and feels.
For sure, like you and I both focus on facts (even though in this case it is 100% subjective how you think he performed) and I for sure ignore groupthink and feels as well and we both have different opinions. It’s aMaZiNg!
The democrats had to know Biden was going to drop out when they scheduled the earliest presidential debate in history.
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
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You’re talking an extraordinary amount of stupidity vs a moderate amount of planning.
If this election can teach us anything, if you live in a bubble then you have some incredibly stupid blind spots.
Are you saying that the people running the Democratic Party live in a bubble?
The democratic party has as many bubbles as they have geriatric candidates. A candidate manages their staff, but the staff can also manage the candidate and it creeps into elderly abuse at a certain point. Look at Diane Feinstein or RBG: two people who should have retired but their staff didn’t want to loose their relative power so they filter what their boss sees. I’m sure the same is true for Trump. Biden at least has Pelosi to pull his head from his ass and showed him the real numbers his staff wasn’t showing.
I love this but no way our Democrat leadership thought that far ahead.
Ha, yeah. I’ve been a registered Democrat since I was 18. No freaking way they tried at something so hard like that.
To be fair, for all we know you’re 19.
I’m more cynical about the DNC than anybody but - people daydream all the time about what could happen in the future if this or that happens. Some asshole right winger started daydreaming about taking over the Supreme Court back in the 1970s and it doesn’t mean that he planned it all out but you can still think about the next few moves to be ready if the opportunity arises.
Somebody in the DNC imagined this scenario many months/years ago and talked about it to their bosses. Gaming out the possibilities and having the slide deck ready is how wild, game changing moves like this end up happening.
I mean, his last VP pick had lightning powers. This one fucks couches. That’s a hell of a downgrade.
lightning powers? I’m ootl
There were a lot of memes involving mike pence having lightning powers, and often fighting anything gay with electricity. IIRC this all came from him allegedly advocating for electroshock therapy as a method of conversion therapy (which snopes said is false, and that’s as much research as I’m putting into a tangent on meme history)
i know about his conversion therapy thing; missed the memes apparently.
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oh… yeah; just never heard conversion therapy described as “lightning powers”…
Well…if he’s fucking hard enough maybe he can generate some static discharge.
Oh, I’m sure there’s some discharge.
So at best the low budget version
Really feels like Vance is being set up as the fall guy to blame when trump loses.
“If he had just picked someone else as VP, he would’ve won!” -conservatives in five months
Maybe Trump will get them to hang him.
Don’t worry, the qons will always find a cop-out. This is the bunch that were suddenly full of “independents” who never even heard of this W guy after Iraq was so obviously a gigantic clusterfuck and who never even heard of this Romney guy after he got spanked by a Blah guy.
No, these people were suddenly teabaggers that were deep into this “tea party” that never was a thing before being made a thing by Faux and friends. Also, don’t call them “teabaggers”, they never, ever used that term for themselves (and don’t go looking around for any proof of this or anything. Just believe the teabaggers, er, I mean the “tea party members” of this so-called truth).
Vance brings no new votes to the table. He is really just there because Peter Thiel agreed to donate to the campaign if Trump made him VP. When Biden was still in, the GOP believed that the election was as good as won so they didn’t believe they need to appeal to anyone else. Now that Kamala is running, the initial reaction and polling is showing that this race isn’t going to be easy for the GOP and Vance looks like a shitty pick.
I must say that after many grueling and sometimes flat out boring and repetitive episodes, the USA show sure surprised us with this new twist.
I love it!
Blame everyone but Trump.
No I think Trump and team figured they had this in the bag and no need to pick anyone else that could appeal to the normies. They are all in on MAGA and gods willing it explodes in their faves
As long as they lose I’m not sure I care who they blame it on.
I hope mascara isn’t toxic to leopards!
He’s a piece of shit so if they turn on him, (which we know they will) I’m good with it.
And JD Vance has earned all the hate MAGA is going to send his way. Bending the knee may give short term gain, but it will ultimately ruin your life and legacy, like a whole list of these lifelong Republicans. The Lindsay Graham’s and Ted Cruz’s who took Trump’s abuse and just cowered like the pathetic people they are.
MAGA will be in the history books beside the confederates as the traitor party.
When Trump loses, what’s the worse that can happen to JD Vance?
It’s not like Trump is going to send a mob to kill his vice president running mate. Oh wait.
Bold of you to assume they’re ever going to admit having lost. How else will they rationalize another attempted coup?
It’s amusing you think Republicans will do anything but say the election was stolen by the left.
Yeah, it’s actually not possible for me to imagine Republicans losing the presidency again without claiming fraud. Even if saying that directly stops playing as well, they will just move onto softer language about it. Like when they went from being directly racist to claiming all problems are certain immigrants’ fault.
They will “just ask questions” about particular states’ results. I don’t think we will come back from that. It may even bleed over to Democrats saying it eventually, just because it’s so established in the zeitgeist that it’s possible, some lesser thinking Dems may run with it.
Notice how none of them hesitate to do this shit now. It’s because they’ve started to internalize that democracy is bad because it doesn’t give their party the advantages they feel entitled to.
They’ll do both
Yea. There’s a word for that. It’s called losing.
They’ll say both. Cognitive dissonance isn’t a problem for Trump voters.
Really feels like Vance is being set up as the fall guy to blame when trump loses.
He was the bag man for Cryptobros. Trump puts him on the ticket and the money flows into the Trump campaign.
Now it’s looking like a raw deal, as Trump has to spend all that new money defending his hideous little troll of a VP.
“If he had just picked someone else as VP, he would’ve won!” -conservatives in five months
Missed a perfectly good opportunity to run a horny VP like Kristi Noem or Laura Boebert or Hope Hicks.
Still would have lost, but at least we wouldn’t need Vance’s mug all over the TV.
