Republican pundit Will Pierce insisted that Vice President Kamala Harris was "not Black" and, instead, accused her of "doing blackface." During a Sunday panel discussion, Newsmax host Lidia Curanaj falsely claimed that Harris "changes her race depending" on her campaign strategy. Pierce, a for...
  • teft@lemmy.world
    1691·
    2 months ago

    Wait, so Obama is black because his father is black and now Harris isn’t black even though her father is black? Do these idiots even hear themselves?

    • BarqsHasBite@lemmy.world
      41·
      2 months ago

      No you see he wasn’t black, he was just born in Kenya, and many people are born in Kenya, you don’t have to be black to be born in Kenya, i have many friends born in Kenya, Ok I’m done /s.

    • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
      9·
      2 months ago

      I think we need to talk about how Obama is white. It both uses their own stupid so-called logic against them and would seriously piss them off.

    • ImADifferentBird@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      31·
      2 months ago

      That seems to be the general thrust, but I have seen a few not-so-bright sparks suggest that Jamaicans aren’t really black.

      I even saw one person suggest that the fact that she is descended from an Irish plantation owner means she can’t be black. Which, gee, I wonder why a black person would be descended from a plantation owner?

      • The Octonaut@mander.xyz
        11·
        2 months ago

        Are you sure it was an Irish plantation owner? Most of the time Irish people in the Caribbean were working on plantations, not owning them. From what I’ve read, the person in question was a British person from Antrim - which is on the island of Ireland, but is part of the UK and was itself “plantationed” by Britain.

        It would be weird for example to refer to George Orwell as Indian, Louis Theroux as Singaporean or Duke Wellington as Irish - after all, “being born in a stable does not make one a horse” as the Duke put it when ‘accused’ of being Irish.

    • n2burns@lemmy.ca
      75·
      2 months ago

      It feels like their rules are if your part minority, you’re a minority (which is how society treats people). However, you can only be a maximum of one minority in each category. Harris can be a women, but she can’t be both Indian and Black.

      • Etterra@lemmy.world
        18·
        2 months ago

        I think it’s more like they can’t comprehend being half black if the other half is not white. Which really gives you some insight into what they think about everybody that isn’t white. The Republican worldview on race is the same as their worldview on everything else: literally black and white.

      • acosmichippo@lemmy.worldEnglish
        79·
        2 months ago

        Their rules are you are whatever is beneficial to the propaganda web we’re currently spinning. Next week she’ll be black again.

        • Vanon@lemmy.worldEnglish
          8·
          2 months ago

          Yup. It’s not worth any time trying to figure out their “rules”, because there are none, and they don’t need any. These deranged morons are unburdened by logic (or principles, morals, honesty, consistency). And there are entire industries now grinding out profit from the idiocy and hate. It’s just business.

    • Mammothmothman@lemmy.ca
      10·
      2 months ago

      Schrodinger’s black person. A person is both black and not black at any given time untill a bigot decides what they are.

  • Phegan@lemmy.world
    46·
    2 months ago

    It’s a real lack of understanding if they assume that people are only voting for her because she is black. It’s going to be a really really weak strategy

    • barsquid@lemmy.world
      18·
      2 months ago

      Rightists are fucked in the head. They’re probably imagining how they would react if they found out one of theirs wasn’t white.

      • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world
        5·
        1 month ago

        I still remember when he won in 2008, feeling happy that he was able to win, not because he was black but despite it. He didn’t campaign on it at all. In hindsight, he campaigned on a vague notion of change, which I’m sure many thought it meant more than it really did.

        And then Hilary actually did campaign about voting her in because she’s a woman and it’s her turn. While Trump took on the vague “drain the swamp” message that many likely believed he meant something different by (when in hindsight, it was either an outright lie or he specifically meant the “swamp” of barriers between him and making money from whatever half-baked scam he was currently chasing).

        That said, let them think that. They’ll just waste their time making themselves look worse for focusing so much attention on something that isn’t really relevant to anything. I’m not even sure who the intended target audience of that accusation is. He might just end up making her more palatable for racists who are getting tired of him.

          • orcrist@lemm.ee
            4·
            1 month ago

            This is their best shot. Trump ran as a reform candidate, but he never delivered. At best (?) he built a fence that didn’t do anything. So he’s desperate to avoid policy discussions.

  • irotsoma@lemmy.worldEnglish
    14·
    1 month ago

    So…people are only black if their family came directly to America from Africa? Being enslaved in other countries first means they aren’t black?

    And if you’re mixed-race, and you don’t count as being any of those races?

    And no mixed race person should become president because you’re taking away the chance for a single race person to be the first of that race to be president? And I think they forgot there was already a black president. Or are they saying the first woman president should be white so they don’t take away the ability for a white person to be the first woman president since black people already got a first?

    • Maggoty@lemmy.world
      5·
      1 month ago

      I just facepalm every time someone says, “but her dad is from Jamaica!” Like slavery didn’t exist there.

    • AbsentBird@lemm.eeEnglish
      15·
      1 month ago

      Was Obama the first black president? He’s half white, I don’t remember which race he picked on mixed race choosing day.

    • daniyeg@lemmy.mlEnglish
      1·
      1 month ago

      that Jamaican’s silver was brutal ngl got a little bit sad watching his confused reaction.

    • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
      2·
      1 month ago

      If you took that image entirely out of context, as if you don’t know that they’re running a race, it’s pretty amusing.

    • Ultraviolet@lemmy.worldEnglish
      8·
      2 months ago

      It’s a dog whistle to the racists who think the only thing worse than not being white is being mixed race. But they can’t just say that out loud, so they play dumb and go “how can she be both?”

  • foggy@lemmy.world
    7·
    2 months ago

    I cannot think of a more desperate attempt at being apart of a fascist crew lmoa fuck this turd

  • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
    1471·
    2 months ago

    The four main MAGA attacks on Kamala Harris:

    1. She laughs.
    2. She hugs people.
    3. She’s pretending to be black.
    4. She’s black.
    • thermal_shock@lemmy.worldEnglish
      141·
      2 months ago

      seen lots of comments insinuating that she slept her way to the top, calling her Kamala “on her back/knees” Harris. I just reply with *citation needed and they always either don’t respond or say “dO YouR ReSeArCh!”

        • pingveno@lemmy.worldEnglish
          51·
          1 month ago

          Nothing says sleeping to the top like prominent posts that I just heard about today such as the California State Unemployment Insurance Appeals Board and the California Medical Assistance Commission.

          • AhismaMiasma@lemm.ee
            1·
            1 month ago

            Oh I didn’t make a judgement on it, just elaborating on where the belief stems from.

            Although I believe the issue(?) is that those are paid positions. Of course, she might’ve genuinely been the best person for those roles.

            • pingveno@lemmy.worldEnglish
              1·
              1 month ago

              Oh, I wasn’t criticizing you, I was criticizing the people that are suggesting she slept her way to the top. I wouldn’t be overly concerned about the pay issue, both positions are in the $50k range, so not exactly the stuff of corruption.

    • Duamerthrax@lemmy.world
      8·
      2 months ago

      Projection. Always projection. Remember that the House Un-American Activities Committee was all about canceling people for alleged Wrong Think.

    • Gloomy@mander.xyz
      21·
      2 months ago

      I know we don’t do I objective viewpoints point on here, but there is a difference between thinking that it is okay to do blackface in the context of a movie or a play and accusing Harris of pretending to be black.

      I don’t agree with either of those points, but it’s silly to pretend they are the same.