Google ramps up its campaign against ad blockers on Chrome.
  • Google is transitioning Chrome’s extension support from the Manifest V2 framework to the V3.
  • This means users won’t be able to use uBlock Origin to block ads on Google Chrome.
  • However, there’s a new iteration of the app — uBlock Origin Lite, which is Manifest V3 compliant but doesn’t boast the original version’s comprehensive ad-blocking features.
  • ngwoo@lemmy.worldEnglish
    711·
    3 months ago

    Use Firefox. If something you use ABSOLUTELY needs Chromium yell at whoever makes the thing. If that still doesn’t work use Brave. But then go back to Firefox for everything else.

    • Rob@lemmy.world
      1·
      3 months ago

      What’s the general consensus on Arch? I really like the UX, although I stuck to Firefox on mobile.

    • linearchaos@lemmy.worldEnglish
      15·
      3 months ago

      Screw that. Use Firefox, but if you need Chrome, use brave, use Vivaldi, use Opera for all it mattwrs. Asanything that still works is fine.

      This brave paranoia is just insane. You don’t want crypto, don’t use it. You don’t trust brave use Vivaldi, but spreading fake fear is BS.

      • JackbyDev@programming.devEnglish
        11·
        3 months ago

        Brave altered URLs clicked to add their own affiliate links. Browsers should go to where you click. That’s like their whole job. There are reasons to dislike Brave apart from crypto.

        • linearchaos@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          3 months ago

          4 years ago

          Also Firefox sends all of your browser data to Google for safe browsing checks Right now.

          • JackbyDev@programming.devEnglish
            3·
            3 months ago

            Are you talking about this? They say it only calls out to get updated lists and when you actually arrive at a phishing page to check if the page is still marked as suspicious.

            Source: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-does-phishing-and-malware-protection-work#w_what-information-is-sent-to-mozilla-or-its-partners-when-phishing-and-malware-protection-is-enabled

            Also, I agree it was 4 years ago. That’s a fair point. To me it’s super important and they’ve probably permanently lost my trust (or at least it’s always going to be besmudged). If you believe they’ve changed in that time period (or it’s not as critical to you) then that’s fine.

            For what it’s worth, when I need a Chromium based browser because the site has a bug and won’t work with Firefox my (current) go to is Brave. I use it on a semi regular basis because dndbeyond.com works poorly with Firefox. So every 2 to 4 weeks I use it for that.

            • linearchaos@lemmy.worldEnglish
              11·
              3 months ago

              You can also disable FF from connecting to safe browsing with flags. I prefer to let my DNS handle that list.

              My Work ADP portal also misbehaves in FF.

              I’ve also made FF stop using Google search for anything.

              I advocate people use whatever works for them. I’d advocate for Edge, but they have already clarified they intend to follow Chrome to the letter.

              Vivaldi has claimed they intend to fork and not enforce V3, but acknowledge it’s no small feat and they may fail.

              Operam I believe has claimed they intend not to enforce V3

              Brave goes as far as saying that they’re immune to it even if they turned it on.

              I don’t trust any browser 100% Firefox was close and is still my most trusted.

              I’m down with pushing everyone into Firefox, but I’m not loving the chrome variant hate. Use whatever works unless the browsers are currently acting bad.

      • CafecitoHippo@lemm.eeEnglish
        7·
        3 months ago

        You don’t want crypto, don’t use it.

        I use Brave as my Chrome based browser when not using Floorp but there were other issues with Brave in the past like injecting their affiliate links unbeknownst to users so they could make money off them. They have reverted that decision but that they thought it was acceptable in the first place leaves some to question, rightly, what other shenanigans they might pull. They’ve also had issues with paying out Creators BAT tokens.

        • linearchaos@lemmy.worldEnglish
          42·
          3 months ago

          Yep company’s not totally trustworthy neither is Google neither is Microsoft. By the way, Firefox still sends all of your websites to Google to get safe traffic prompts.

          Brave also got and slapped by the SEC for the handling of their crypto sales.

          The link issue you’re speaking of was 4 years ago. The CEO issued a formal apology.

          They’re a funded company they are trying to make money to pay the developers to stay solvent.

          On the upside they’re using that money to fight Google’s ad blocking and to keep manifest V3 optional.

          The way they block the ads happens outside of manifest so even if they take the manifest code they still won’t have ads. Of the chromium ancestry browsers they are the most likely to continue running long-term. They’re also the fastest solution for YouTube blocking when YouTube makes changes.

          I main Firefox but still use brave over edge or opera.

          Right now, we need all the boats we have. Not everything works in Firefox you need to have a backup,

    • Huckledebuck@sh.itjust.works
      81·
      3 months ago

      I’ve switched to Brave. I only use it for general internet use. What am i missing out on if i don’t go back to Firefox?

          • hswolf@lemmy.world
            5·
            3 months ago

            short answer: No

            long answer: Most people just like to shout-out what they like, and don’t want to know your use case. If you need pc/mobile sync, Firefox will be your best choice here.

      • Tja@programming.dev
        7·
        3 months ago

        What you are missing out on? Probably not much. Some sites might even work worse if you switch, due to lazyness or sabotage by devs.

        Using Firefox is good for the ecosystem in general, to have a counter balance to Google. I use both Firefox and chromium and see very little difference. Some extensions might be worth it (like the title says), so that might be a difference for you.

      • Voltage@sh.itjust.works
        30·
        3 months ago

        I know its everyone’s personal choice and all that but in my opinion people should stop using chromium engine browsers. It was a good engine however the fact that chromium has the majority users is the only thing holding lazy developers from porting websites to work with other browser engines gives google more control.

          • stetech@lemmy.world
            20·
            3 months ago

            Most “browsers” being marketed out there are based off of Google’s Chromium project. They are effectively re-skins of it (simplifying a little). Examples include Brave, Vivaldi, Opera I believe.

            Firefox is completely separate and independent from this ecosystem (which is also why there’s a separate extension store for Firefox).

            The third and last major (>a couple % market share) engine is WebKit, which is the basis of Apple’s Safari.

            There’s tons of cool stuff out there, but it’s either niche (platform/use case), unstable to use, and/or both. Examples: Servo, Ladybird, Orion

            To sum it up, if you’re a normal, average user:

            • If you have exclusively Apple devices, probably try Safari (for the synchronization & battery efficiency)
            • If not, Firefox!
            • If you need it because of some really messed up development/compatibility issues, the last resort is ungoogled/de-googled Chromium

            While on the topic, here’s some cool browser extensions:

            Edit: fixed a link

      • Hanrahan@slrpnk.netEnglish
        2·
        3 months ago

        Support for Chromuin backed browsers ?

        I keep Throriim there for the odd shit ball site thear refuses but then thats the point.

  • auzy@lemmy.world
    12·
    3 months ago

    Moved to Firefox years ago. I wish they could diversify their income though

  • Kethal@lemmy.world
    30·
    3 months ago

    I used Firefox when it first came out. Google and Mozzila got into a hot race to make the best browser and they both did well. Somehow I ended up using Chrome a lot more even though I thought that by the time the race ended they were pretty even. Both were very fast and had great plugin libraries. Chrome looked nicer out of the box, but Firefox is highly customizable. Since the end of that race, Chrome has gotten worse and Firefox is about the same. I’ve switched back fully to Firefox, and the only thing I miss is the “Piss off publisher frames” plugin, that I haven’t found a replacement for. It’s a nice browser.

    • jay@mbin.zerojay.com
      3·
      3 months ago

      I would be on Firefox myself except that I need Webassembly that functions at a decent speed and It’s about 30-100 times slower on Firefox than it is on Chrome and hasn’t changed in yeeeeears.

    • fine_sandy_bottom@lemmy.federate.cc
      12·
      3 months ago

      I switched to chrome for several years. Back then I was using Gmail and google docs et cetera. I naively thought Google were the good guys.

      At that time the chrome ui was better. As an example, Firefox still had a separate search bar and address bar, although you could search in the address bar if you wished.

      More recently I think the “nice ui” thing has tipped back towards Firefox. Chrome seems to have evolved some extra buttons.

      • Billiam@lemmy.world
        4·
        3 months ago

        As an example, Firefox still had a separate search bar and address bar, although you could search in the address bar if you wished.

        The advantages of that was you could set the URL bar and search bar to different search engines. I would do a Google search with the URL bar while keeping the search bar set to Wikipedia. Eventually this feature was removed, and then the search bar itself (since there was no reason to search from the URL bar and a dedicated search bar.) It’s a feature I missed for a while, but I got over it.

        • feannag@sh.itjust.works
          1·
          3 months ago

          You know you can set up custom strings to use different searches, right? E.g. typing w: and then your search string to search Wikipedia.

          • Billiam@lemmy.world
            21·
            3 months ago

            I’m aware there are probably a hundred different ways to do what I want in Firefox, and that 99 of them are probably easier than the way I do them already. Now I just keep a Wiki tab open for when I want to search something.

      • Kethal@lemmy.world
        2·
        3 months ago

        Yeah, it’s ironic that one of Google’s selling points was that Chrome didn’t have a lot of clutter. It’s even where the name comes from. Now it looks messy. It’s no Microsoft product yet, but it’s definitely one of the ways it used to be better.

      • zueski@lemm.ee
        3·
        3 months ago

        I have never understood the desire to combine the search and the address fields. I occasional search a url when I forget the rules for what it thinks is keyword. It just seems like a scheme to collect more data by bouncing your intended site to google and increase your reliance on them rather than being a real UI feature.

  • GaMEChld@lemmy.world
    26·
    3 months ago

    Just finished migrating to Firefox this year to prep for this. See Ya later Chrome! Give my regards to Netscape.

  • LotrOrc@lemmy.world
    32·
    3 months ago

    I’ve started using Ecosia and i honestly have liked my results far more than on chrome

  • madcaesar@lemmy.world
    63·
    3 months ago

    FYI TELL YOUR LOVED ONES ABOUT THIS

    If you are on here you’re probably like me “the it guy of the family”

    Mom and dad aren’t going to switch themselves, remove chrome for them as the default install Firefox and tell them to use that unless something absolutely refuses to work. Pick your battles.

    • SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world
      13·
      3 months ago

      If you are the IT guy just buy a raspberry pi or a cheap mini pc and install pi-hole at your parents place that you can access remotely. That way their entire network is blocked from ads and you can troubleshoot from anywhere.

      • almost1337@lemm.ee
        35·
        3 months ago

        And then it gets blamed every time something doesn’t work right with the internet

        • lightnsfw@reddthat.com
          91·
          3 months ago

          I gave my parents 3 "The internet stopped working so I reset the router"s before I stopped trying. If you can’t follow the simplest instructions you’re on your own. Enjoy your adds and paying for subscription services.

      • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.worldEnglish
        7·
        3 months ago

        Sometimes people just refuse common sense and have to be left to ruin their own lives, no matter how much you love them.

        Cause theres no point drowning yourself, trying to keep idiots that refuse to swim above water.

  • 800XL@lemmy.world
    12·
    3 months ago

    The only thing that runs Chrome is my work computer only because they installed it and who gives a fuck if they get hacked? I don’t even discern search results because I don’t get paid enough to care.

    • Lumisal@lemmy.world
      4·
      3 months ago

      Just make sure your router is updated. I recommend gl.inet routers if you’re a beginner - easy to keep up to date and their version of OpenWRT has AdGuard installed. Malware can affect more than just the computer you use

      • 800XL@lemmy.world
        2·
        3 months ago

        I never do personal stuff or even search for non-work related stuff on the machine, and when I’m at home it’s on a guest network by itself on a different subnet. Outside of work hours I manually turn off wifi on the machine and block it on the router.