The reverse of a question I asked on here a while ago.
Wood glue, no particular brand recommendations, is one of the pew products I trust to do exactly what it claims to - glue wood.
Yeah. If it fails it’s the wood around the glued joint, not the joint iself.
A face grain to face grain joint will usually fail at least partially along the growth rings in the board(s) rather than at the glue joint, yes. But an end grain to end grain joint (which are rarely made for practical reasons) will typically fail at the glue joint.
Wood is kind of a composite material; it’s cellulose fibers bound together with a polymer called lignin. PVA wood glue is stronger than lignin but not as strong as the cellulose fibers, so a broken face-to-face joint will break along the weakest, the lignin.
If you edge glue a panel together for say a table top, gluing boards edge-to-edge, that board will be at least as strong as if it was one wide board; it will take at least as much force as a single board to break.
But, if you glue two long boards end to end, it won’t be as strong as a single continuous board of the same overall length. It will fail at and along the glue joint, maybe pulling a couple splinters out of one board. Which is why we basically never do that; if a board has to be spliced it’s common to add a doubler so there are fibers crossing the joint line.
But yes PVA glue like Titebond is amazingly good at bonding wood.
I wonder if there is any bad wood glue out there. I use it quite a bit and I don’t think i ever used the same brand twice.
For some reason I have a thought in my head that I don’t like Elmer’s wood glue. I don’t know why, I don’t remember it ever letting me down.
White Elmer’s glue is pretty much the same formula as their “washable” school glue. It bonds wood quite strongly but it tends to be slimier than wood glue so when you go to clamp the boards together they tend to slip around out of orientation. It’s not as fun to work with as yellow carpenter’s glues which tend to be tackier so the boards don’t slip around as much.
My latest bottle is gorilla and it works well enough. But exactly like you said, I don’t think I could pick it out from every other bottle I’ve used in the last 20 years.
Titebond 3. It’s a pretty easy choice; it has one of, if not the highest strengths of wood glues on the market, and it’s water resistant. If you want the wood to break before the glue does, that’s the stuff you want.
That is usually what I go with, because I normally only keep one bottle of wood glue around and it covers pretty much any use case I could ever have for wood glue being waterproof, safe for indirect food contact, etc.
But honestly, for general gluing furniture together and such, even the cheapest no-name brands of wood glue have always done just fine. Pretty much any wood glue out there is stronger than any wood you’re likely getting the be gluing (inb4 some carpentry nerd chimes in with some rare wood that only grows in New Zealand or something that is stronger than steel or something)
Wood glues like Titebond are PVA-based glues. So is Elmer’s white school glue, which is also very good at bonding wood. Wood glues are yellow either because of added resins that make it tackier when wet so clamped boards don’t slide around as easy before the glue dries, so that the glue dries to a harder, more rock-like consistency rather than staying slightly flexible, or because wood is kind of yellow so they wanted it to look like wood, I’ve heard all three and I’m not sure which is true. Titebond does sell a brown wood glue so that it blends into darker woods like walnut and ebony though.
I’ve seen plenty of bonds on furniture fail, rather than the wood. It seems most typical on things that are a dowelled construction rather than a mortise and tenon joint. I’ve seen it most often with chairs, since they’re under a lot of stresses. Maybe I’m in a uniquely bad environment that’s harsh on wood glue; I don’t know.
Yeah I think the way a lot of chairs are constructed is just a bad use case for glue. Like you said, chairs are under a lot of stress (tension, compression, shear, cleavage, peel- glue can handle some of these well and others not,) there’s a lot of weird ways you can put leverage on the joints, people don’t tend to sit perfectly still so those loads are dynamic and always shifting a bit, and to make it worse they kind of have to be designed to be somewhat lightweight, easy to move around, small enough to fit under a table, etc so there’s always some compromises made and they’re never as overbuilt as they probably should be.
Different kind of construction, but I work in a 911 dispatch center, we have some ridiculously overbuilt chairs that are supposed to be rated for someone to be occupying them 24/7. They cost a ridiculous amount of money and they’re still breaking in new and spectacular ways almost constantly. It’s tough to build a good chair.
There’s also of course issues that can arise from bad surface prep, poor fitment, improper clamping, too little glue, not letting it dry long enough too high/low temperature/humidity/moisture, the wood shrinking/expanding, poorly thought-out joints that don’t have enough surface area or are putting the glue under the wrong kind of stresses, and of course sometimes you’re asking the glue to do something it doesn’t do well, it’s good at gluing wood to wood, but not nearly as good at gluing paint to paint or varnish to varnish.
Totally agree.
Unfortunately, wooden chairs that don’t suck tend to cost a fuckton. The styles that people tend to like are usually on the fragile side by their nature.
Chairs, like wooden dining room chairs, are some of the most dynamically stressed woodworking projects. A bookcase may carry hundreds of pounds of books but you put the books on the shelf and they mostly just stay there. A dining room chair has people sitting down, scooting forward, shifting around, leaning back, standing up etc. so there’s a lot of force moving around trying to bend the frame members and shift the tenons around in their mortises. This often causes the glue, or the wood immediately around it, to fracture under repetitive stress and causes loose joints.
Some woodworkers prefer to use hide glue (or its modern synthetic equivalent) rather than PVA glue specifically because it isn’t as strong, and because the bond can be released with heat. That allows the glue to fail while the wood itself remains intact, and then a chair with a failed joint can be disassembled and repaired. A chair assembled with PVA is likely to break in the middle of a board or dowel and is impossible to disassemble in any intentional way.
My mom bought my backpack 25 years ago and the clerk told her “they’ll last for at least five years”.
Well I still use mine daily, so yeah. Definitely lived up to expectations. Although I’ve did get it fixed, but first time just a year or two ago. So lasted without any fixing for longer than the average age on Lemmy, I’d say.
What brand?
doubt they make them the same way so it wouldn’t be as good
deleted by creator
Sorry forgot to reply. Hedgren, it’s called.
But idk if their current products reflect that level of durability.
I’ve got a 20 year old Swissgear backpack but I haven’t used it for a few years. It lasted through my rave/festival decade!
I used to break a backpack (usually zipper failure) every year until I got a swissgear backpack. It’s 15 years old. It’ll probably make it to 20.
I sound like a shill but I LOVE IT. Lugged laptops around with oodles of other things, I really like that the top handle has like, twisted wire in it so it doesnt snap off when carrying heavy loads.
Power (not adidas, the brand is power) backpacks are good. Spent like 25 bucks a decade ago and it only needed some stitches. Was daily use for most of that time, too!
I bought a laptop backpack a loooooooong time ago, and still use it constantly. It’s been through 3 laptops, and I’m not the type to upgrade until it is absolutely necessary.
I bought a military grade backpack on a Marine Corps base in 2001. I used it for 3 years in the military, then all of undergrad, masters, and phd school. I use it on almost all of my travels, and I use it daily in town. It’s still going strong. Hope to get another 23 years out of it.
Fender Telecaster
Similarly, Fender Precision Bass. Hard to go wrong with a classic.
Litter Robot
I’ve been thinking about getting one. Which model do you have, and how long have you had it?
Had it for over 5 years, LitterRobot 3. Get the extras (ramp, the plastic cap piece that keeps more litter in).
Never had a problem with mine. Canmt speak to the 4 but I feel like it wouldn’t be worse
I fixed my hot tub with Flex Tape. It seems to be doing the job.
I’ve repaired 2 kayaks and my tiny, flat-bottom boat. That shit is scary.
“Open heart surgery - guy’s got an artery going - FLEX TAPE”
now that’s a lotta damage
up to its* advertised claims
Actually, OP is referring to Samuel It’s, a famous product reviewer who makes many claims.
Its gonna be OK. Its not really that important.
Miele washing machine. Doing my laundry since 2001 and still as good as new.
Darn tough socks, lamy pens, Ibanez guitars, and crumpler bags have all been very solid quality products I consider well worth the value.
Second Darn Tough. Best trail running socks I’ve ever had
Have an Al-Star and a Safari with two of my favorite inks close at hand nearly always. Can’t remember the last time I so much as thought about cleaning either, even the one with a shimmer in it. I just keep refilling them, and they just keep working.
Dirt cheap, given the quality, too, IMHO. They could charge twice what they do for the lower end of their products, and there would still be value there.
I have a Lamy pen and it’s wonderful. I put a more fine nib on it and it writes beautifully, despite me being a lefty. I know you can get a lefty nib for them, but can’t really justify buying one and they only come in medium width.
i had like 10 of them since childhod, goddamn loved them. loved the colors and how smooth they were.
A $250 Epson ink tank printer.
500 full colour 10x15 photos and still half full.
LASERJET COPIERS ARE SUPERIOR!
Mr Clean magic bathroom erasers. Holy shit. They literally melted the soap scum from my bathtub when every other tile cleaner did next to nothing. I was completely blown away.
any they work incredibly well at putting micro plastics in the environment too!
This 100%. Here’s a life pro tip: Mr. Clean Magic Eraser is the trademarked brand. The generic product (which is exactly the same thing) is “melamine sponge”.
Depending on where you live, the Magic Eraser is an 4-5X more expensive than the equivalent generic on Amazon or eBay.
This was a very pro tip
I bought like 300 off Amazon 10 years ago for something like 30 bucks. They arrived in a large (like 55 gallon) black garbage bag. We still haven’t used them to this day.
Edit: I had to go look, looks like I wasn’t quite right, was 100 for 11 bucks, and was only in 2017.
USMYTHA 100Pcs/lot Magic Melamine Cleaning Sponge Multi-Functional Foam Eraser Pads 10x6x2CM(4x2.4x0.8 inch) https://a.co/d/fytlPA1
Dude, foaming oven cleaner is similar. If you have a jacked up oven, get the foaming stuff and you’ll have a nearly brand new oven.
edit: oops, misread the parent post as the scrubbing bubble cleaner. going thru a colonoscopy prep, so im all funky. the foaming oven cleaner is good af tho. also, get melamine sponges. theyre the same thing as the magic sponges but much more cost efficient.
Good luck with your colonoscopy. The prep is fucking miserable, but it’s definitely worth it in the end.
(Don’t use foaming oven cleaner for that.)
Thanks! Everything went smoothly. I must’ve been funny under anesthesia because the nurses were looking at me funny when I came back to reality. I hope I didn’t embarrass myself 😬
I feel like no matter what happened, the chances are pretty low you’ll ever be the weirdest thing a bunch of professional butthole-looking specialists have ever experienced on the job.
Congrats on being done with it!
PSA to carefully read and follow all usage directions on any oven cleaner product. Some of that stuff can destroy your lungs (and more) if not used properly.
My MacBook air… Apple bad and all, but the battery life and (CPU) performance meet the claims…
The one apple product I’m willing to buy.
I feel like other brands have closed the gap but there was a time where macbooks seemed like the only great laptop on the market.
IMO:
Early 2000 -> 2014 - MacBooks are great
2014 -> 2016 - MacBooks are decent
2016 -> Last Intel Models - MacBooks are bad
M1 -> Present - MacBooks are great
Currently using my 2011 MacBook Pro! It’s got 16GB of RAM and I’ve replaced the optical drive with a SSD, but it still browses the web and handles sorting and browsing and editing 80k photos!
I put Linux Mint on mine. It’s like a brand new laptop. Incredible hardware.
Ugh I would LOVE that, but I need OSX for iPhoto, it’s so amazing for organizing a million photos…
Not the 8GB RAM model tho, too low for 2020…
Mine’s an 8GB. At least for my use case (web development/design) it’s plenty…
Same with my early-2015 model MacBook Pro. My only Apple product. It just works, what can I say. I’m basically waiting for a reason to switch to the Framework laptop but we’ll see. I might eventually just get another MacBook. I gifted my SO a MacBook air around the same time I bought mine and she has had zero issues with that as well.
I got this M3 air earlier this year… It’s also my only apple product and so far it’s been great. 0 driver issues, 0 slowdown, 0 screwing around. It just works…
I had the same 2015 MBP, and honestly the only reason I sold it was because I was gifted an M2 Air. For the £400 I paid for it, it’s an incredible laptop.
Yes, Apple have become a steaming tower of shitheads, but fuck me, their hardware is (generally) incredibly well built.
I have a 2011 13” MacBook Pro that I bumped up to 16gb RAM, and replaced the DVD drive with a second hard drive. I had it running Sonoma through OCLP until a few weeks ago when I threw Linux Mint on it. Damn thing won’t die. Same for the 2011 and 2014 Macs mini that I also use regularly. I also have a 15” M2 Air, which is legitimately the best computer I’ve ever owned. I don’t imagine I’ll get the same life out of that, not with macOS at least. Asahi Linux seems to be very, very promising though.
Louis Rossman enters the chat.
This thing is way more expensive than it seems like it should be for what it is, but if you’ve got a yard full of burrs it’s worth the $270 to clear it up and reduce general misery at home.
https://stickerburrroller.com/products/sticker-burr-removal-tool
I think zippo lighters say they’re wind proof. I did enough professional testing a month ago to confirm this. My neighbors can also confirm there was a man in my lawn with a lighter violently whipping it around in his hand until said man was winded.
Sadly i am not made of zippos.
I think “wind-resistant” would be more accurate.
As someone who used to smoke and had a Zippo, absolutely this. If it was pretty windy, the flame may stay lit but it wouldn’t hold still enough to light anything.
Instant Pot
Head-On CAN be appied directly to the forehead! Which was it’s only claim.
