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We propose the symbol ⁂ to represent the fediverse.
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⁂ is called an asterism. In astronomy, it refers to groups of stars in the sky, akin to constellations. We suggest that it’s a very fitting symbol for the fediverse, a galaxy of interconnected spaces which is decentralised and has an astronomically-themed name. It represents several stars coming together, connecting but each their own, without a centre.
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@ is the symbol for e-mail. # is the symbol for hashtags. ☮ is the symbol for peace. ♻ is the symbol for recycling. ⁂ can be the symbol for the fediverse. ⁂ is standardised as Unicode U+2042, making it ready to copy and insert anywhere.
Git Repository: fediverse-symbol/fediverse-symbol
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Blech
What I’m hearing here is
Proposal to add current Fediverse symbol to Unicode
closest current one I can find is
⛥
or
⬠
Both one off from the superior hexagon. The bestagon.
U+26E5 RIGHT-HANDED INTERLACED PENTAGRAM and U+2B20 WHITE PENTAGON, for those curious
Emojis used zero width joiner to combine multiple single code point emoji to a single combined emoji.
⛥+ZWJ+⬠could form the combined character, and be rendered as desired.Which would hopefully give something like this
pretty sure this guy is trying to trick someone else into summoning a demon. It’s like telling people to hit alt-f4 to chat.
I do hear noises in my head now.
Wololo wololo
It’s more like iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhwiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiie
aeooooooooooo~
I kind of like the idea of just using pentagram. ⛥
Close enough to the current logo in appearance, scales well, not used by other social media, satanic undertones.
I don’t think the satanic undertones are a good thing 🤣
Booo!!! Satan hater!! Hey everyone, this guy hates Satan!!!
Just can’t get away from that Yahwist propaganda.
Why wouldn’t I hate Satan? Man’s literally responsible for everything wrong with our society 🤣
…you think Satan is a literal man and “responsible for everything wrong with our society”? 🤯 Allow me to ruin Santa Claus for you next.
I didn’t say he is literally a man 🤣 It’s an expression. He’s an archangel specifically.
Hate speech. Reported. Not cool.
Touch grass.
this guy RCFs
Its use looks contrived to me on the linked GitHub page. The comparison with @ and # is flawed because those symbols are part of the resource name, whereas here the symbol is superfluous. It’s like adding a 🌐 in front of every web URL.
I like it because it reminds me of the Japanese kanji 森 Mori (Forest).
Which is in and of itself brilliant because it’s the kanji 木 Ki (Tree) repeated three times and bunched together.
Technically, the words are adopted from Chinese (in this case both Traditional and Simplified are the same and have not diverged yet); but same meaning and reasoning, just different pronunciation.
I know that Kanji was originally derived from Chinese but I don’t know which Chinese characters are the same and which are different without doing research.
It is nice that in this case the symbols are the same all the way across the board. 5/5 design choice on both counts.
Did someone just slap this together by copying and pasting an asterisk three times? I know we’re an open source, nerdy community but could we hire a graphic designer?
How about, the same idea, but you use railroad couplers instead of buttholes? Everybody is connected! Rather than being full of shit.
I wrote about this on my blog. I like the notion and points made here, but I also think we’re not helping by re-inventing things that already exist, so I’m torn on it. I have been happy with the existing one.
Especially when U+26E5 ⛥ is right there, and much closer to the current logo. Add lines connecting the outside and you’re basically there. If we made a font that rendered the sequence U+26E5 ⛥ + U+200D ZWJ + U+2B20 ⬠ as the Fediverse logo, and set it as default on Fediverse web platforms, we could go a long way towards getting it adopted.
Stealing an icon already designated for something else? As is tradition
Having a unicode icon that can be copy pasted anywhere is nifty, but yeah I’m really not a fan of choosing this one.
Why do we need to have a unicode character that refers to the fediverse?
Are we trying to replace our alphabetical language with a language of ideograms?
Can you answer, “Why do we need a symbol that represents the Fediverse?” Because modulo that, your question becomes, “Why does the symbol that represents the Fediverse have to have a Unicode codepoint?”
We don’t need it to be a Unicode character, but there are advantages if it is that are so obvious they don’t even bear discussion.
If they can’t be articulated, I lose respect for those reasons
That’s nonsense.
If you know what those reasons are, then whether or not they have been articulated should not influence how you feel about those reasons. To think I could control your mind by not saying things. Just think of all the things I am not saying right now. You’ll go mad.
If you DON’T know what those reasons are, then you are simply not able to respect them less than you do now.
It’s literally a character, like aitch.
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I’m pretty sure we’re cool to use it. The advantage of using a glyph that already exists in Unicode is huge.
Are you one of the three proposers mentioned in the git repository?
No I’m just so very bored and this is the classic bikeshed issue so I figure I won’t cause any problems here.
Do we need to address the typographical issues for the existing symbol? I am not using that symbol every time I talk about fedi. Fedi accounts are identified as @username@instance, so there’s no need to use some obscure unicode.
Exactly. And if needs be, get the existing symbol included in Unicode. It might already be in FontAwesome.
Three dots like this is also an ACAB symbol.
⁂
Why though? We don’t need a symbol. Is it that hard to type “fediverse”? The fediverse logo is good enough.
I’m more partial to the pentagram/star ⛤🌟 shape of the current fediverse logo. It would be nice to have a monochrome and emoji form in unicode, just have the pentagram encased in a pentagon.
There is no real dichotomy between the logo we have and the proposed typographical symbol. They have different uses, neither can really replace the other. Keep the established colourful Fediverse logo in visual layouts and when desired use the typographical symbol in text. It is natural that they won’t be exactly the same symbol because they are designed for different needs; one is meant to look pretty and one is meant to read well as text.
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So they touch upon it on their site:
The pentagram icon is the original symbol for the fediverse, created back in 2018 by Dr. Quadragon and Eukombos. It’s a great depiction of the decentralised nature of the fediverse, and has been serving the community well. However, its design is a little too complex to be used at small sizes, as you would in text or in a button. It’s also only available in image form, not as a typographical character.
I think they have a valid point. Currently on my website I use a Mastodon logo next to email and git and all that jazz. It’s not ideal, as it’s not so important that I’m on Mastodon specifically (and I might move to a self-hosted #Seppo instance in the future), but the existing fediverse icon would not work well at that scale.
It’s a huge branding effort to make it catch on though. And part of me likes the pentagram better.
my friend, please read the article. it does a great job of explaining the why. it only takes a minute to read.
is said in webpage: the pentagram symbol is hard to distinguish at smaller typographicl sizes
Don’t typograh so small
1 thats not how typography works
2 im not webpage authour what u wan me to do about it moew?
I’m reading this thread on mobile, and the fediverse logo next to the community name is much easier to see than the three stars. If I didn’t already know what the three stars were from the rest of the post, I wouldn’t have a clue what they were supposed to be in the body. They look like a blurry capital A.
Obviously the fediverse logo is bigger there, which helps, but it’s not significantly bigger, and would still be clearer at a smaller size
I recommend the asterism to instead be adopted as the symbol for astigmatism.
I like it! 😁
My guess is because it’s unicode. But that doesn’t really matter. How often are you going to want to put the icon instead of just typing the fediverse
eg as a link where using a word 300 times on the same page would be cumbersome
“Fedi”
Already more than 50% shorter.
In comparison, asterism symbol (and any proposal that further extends into Unicode’s emoji area) still spends three, maybe four bytes.
I… umm… yes, I will grant that in UTF-8 and perhaps UTF-16, it encodes to fewer bytes. But that doesn’t have anything to do with my point.
Not so widely adopted if most results don’t include it.
