This post is forgetting the alcohol
Gotta calm the nerves some how
Did someone say weed?
Alcohol makes me angry at the world. Weed glues me to the couch.
So alcohol for productivity
All the above plus an unhealthy amount of isolation and hardcore computer addiction got me through life “unmedicated” 🥹
Wonder how the rate of undiagnosed ADHD is…
probably high, and the rate of unwarrented diagnoses also must be high. and people that get misdiagnosed as bipolar. borderline, and binge eaters. must be high among women, as far as i understood.
met one chick that was clear as day 100 % adhd, I sniffed that out the second time i met her. they said she was bipolar and put her on bipolar meds she absolutely hated to take.
i tried to explain it to hear, and had to give it up, she was in total adhd denial,. and i knew it was pointless.
if you would need a picture for an adhd book, you would take her. everything fit, she also had a chaotic raging alcolholic as father, and would self medicate with canabis and alcohol.
Too damn high.
Last guesstimate I saw was something like 10% of the population in total. Which is pretty reasonable as a population adaptation that outlived its usefulness.
I so badly want to be medicated again. However I’ll require yet another diagnosis even though I have 3 throughout the years. Problem is, it’s too difficult for me to get all my ducks in a triangle to get the process moving
Anyways I hear meth works pretty much the same plus it’s easier to get so yeah imma check that out
Methamphetamine is literally used as a treatment for ADHD. It’s also fairly easy to get a hold of amphetamine on the darknet which is used in things like Adderall. It honestly isn’t that bad of an idea to try amphetamine or even methamphetamine if you actually know the correct dosage range. Recreational users would typically start at a higher dosage than someone looking for medicinal effects. Over time though medical users can end up on a similar dosage to a recreational user due to tolerance.
The problem is that the purity of the drug you’re getting is not guaranteed or regulated at all. For a lot of recreational/street drugs, the bigger problem is often the filler and crap they get cut with. If you’re paying enough for actually reliably pure drugs, you might as well just pay out of pocket for the psychiatrist and avoid the risk of drug charges.
Yes it’s not an ideal solution. If it’s between self medicating with other drugs versus getting the thing you should be prescribed with through illicit means I would choose the latter. Ideally healthcare would be free everywhere and getting a diagnosis wouldn’t take literal years or even a decade. That’s unfortunately not the world we live in. I have friends that were referred years ago on the NHS and are still waiting.
I would recommend against using street drugs in place of prescriptions because of the aforementioned reasons. I’ve seen what street drugs do to people while working in ERs and in a clinical setting, and it’s just not worth it.
Maybe I haven’t explained myself well enough. For many people it’s a choice not between prescription vs illicit. It’s a choice between illicit Adderall vs illicit cannabis, alcohol, nicotine, and anything else they can get their hands on. That’s what happens when people aren’t getting the medication and healthcare that they need. They take their problems to other substances and behaviors.
I’m saying that getting methamphetamine as a replacement for Adderall is a terrible idea because of the problems with contamination and legal repercussions. If you don’t have access to the psychiatric care, getting started with drugs that are cut with god knows what at highly unreliable doses is not likely to make things much better, definitely not in the long run.
This isnt a good thing like you think it is
Care to explain this statement?
You are saying how easy it is to get meth and how good it is, think bro.
I am more talking about amphetamine rather than methamphetamine. Chemically it’s the same as Adderall, and you can find actual Adderall from the darknet or dealers as well.
Everyone’s different but I’ll just tell you I had the exact same thoughts and fast forward 5-6 years after that thought I was literally shooting up meth in socal under bridges homeless as fuck…I was terrified of needles too, hated getting shots could barely stand it but amphetamines can super duper take you soooo many places you don’t want to go.
Be careful and talk your plans over with a mentor/someone you trust please
You didn’t happen to see Anthony kiedis under any of those bridges?
To be clear this isn’t something I would want to try unless I had no other option. I am lucky that my University does testing for ADHD, and am hoping to get tested one day. I also already have an autism diagnosis, so already get some support, meaning it’s not as high a priority for me as it is for someone completely undiagnosed.
I’ve already tried substances similar to amphetamine like cocaine, and honestly don’t find them that pleasant. I am not in any real hurry to try that again. So I also doubt amphetamines are my thing.
I do find it interesting though that stories like yours happen. I’ve tried some very dangerous and addictive things including xanax, valium, ketamine, amphetamine, nicotine as well as the previously mentioned cocaine and honestly none of them took. I can only conclude that either I have no addictive tendencies or that I haven’t tried the right class of substance yet. It’s almost impossible for me to imagine being in your position. I guess it comes down to genetics or something.
I will note as well that if you can become addicted to the street version then that means you would have become addicted to the doctor prescribed version eventually too given enough time. It’s similar to how pain patients end up addicted to opioids. I am glad you are doing better though.
… Uh… Your mileage may vary.
Dr’s across the Midwest hate this one hack
I literally made a custom shirt that says “Fueled by caffeine and spite”.
You got an Etsy? Lmao
I’m pretty much in this camp.
I’ve tried some of the stimulant treatments, but they leave me feeling completely wrung out by the end of my shift. And being on that stuff for more than 12+ hours just seems like a recipe for heart disease.
doesnt work for shit without eating. people also are on way to high dosage. well, it does work, but it really takes a toll if you are not eating right.
Caffeine makes me sleepy. :(
Same… It’s like 20 minutes of focus and then I need a nap 🤷♀️ When I was younger, I’d just inhale energy drinks, but the crashes just kept coming faster and faster.
I get sleepy at around noon no matter what i do. I have medication but it doesn’t do shit anymore. I need a nap.
The ONLY thing that works is if I’m either really busy or really upset. That is the only way i don’t feel tired. 😩
Have you tried taking a break from your medication to reset? Mine even recommends doing that every now and then in the leaflet.
Just make sure not to simply stop taking it, and talk to your doctor first.
It did this for me until I hit 30, then it just made me up up up and not hungry, now past 50 it feels smooth and I can eat but can’t have it in the evening because it will keep me from getting sleepy!
I live by the rule of 200 mg to go slow, 400 mg to go fast.
Yeah, that first pot of coffee is just for lulz and keeps me just coherent long enough for my Adderall to kick in.
Same! But espresso and Ritalin
Caffeine & Daily Exercise & a job that is flexible about how we do things. I have only worked at startups and places that change systems a lot, that seems to suit my nature better somehow.
But my favorite T-shirt says
Whiskey and Yoga
Caffeine worsens my existential panics, so I got that going for me, which is not nice.
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i use weed
Can’t fucking stand it. Oh, yeah, make me both completely unable to pay attention to anything and unable to be truly frustrated by that. Don’t even get the dopamine people say you’re supposed to get more of than the normies, it just makes everything worse.
It’s like a horsekick of a sedative for me. Don’t get me wrong it feels nice floating on a bed. But on that day, absolutely nothings gets done.
I wish weed helped me but it makes me so much worse.
Caffeine, anger, and a commitment to the bit.
I wish I could get diagnosed
Is there online tests or something similar to see if you are possibly on the spectrum as they say ?
You seems to know what you are talking about and I always feel like well yes of course that’s how life is.
Yes. Lookup raads-r autism test. It’s almost as good as a psychiatrist at diagnosing. If you score high there, chances are high a psychiatrist would as well.
It’s hard though. A key criteria (at least in the UK) how much it affects you day-to-day. My father probably has it and passed along a lot of guidance that I now recognise as coping mechanisms/symptom management strategies. Day to day I’ve got it in hand, it’s only when the big storms come that I struggle, and that doesn’t fit with the diagnostic approach.
Thank you!
Would you share some if those mechanisms please?
It’s hard to not make them sound trivial, but you’ll see some of them in the memes that pass through here. Off the top of my head though:
- the importance of routine/consistency. He got up at the same time almost every day for 50 years. He went to the gym before anything got in the way, that sort of thing.
- he pushes conscious decision making, of following through on things and being definite. Do not let yourself be guided by what you want in the moment, be guided by what you plan and intend.
- put things in the same place. Put things back where you got them from. Don’t rely on your memory, rely on your habits.
When I write these they seem silly and trivial, but they help me a lot.
Why can’t you?
Psychiatrists in my area have long waiting lists, and most of them don’t even have a website where I can look up if they know anything about ADHD. It takes a lot of willpower for me to get over my anxiety and call even one of them, and naturally it never leads anywhere. It seems like all my mental health problems are working against me making this appointment, and the psychiatrists aren’t doing anything to help with the process.
Me too. Wish my wife would understand, when I’m being productive and … crotchety, its basically never because she’s done anything wrong, and forcing me to calm down is going to leave us all disappointed.
I’m sorry for that :/
I frequently disappoint my wife…
But mainly in the bedroom.
What’s up with the hardhat and glasses on Mac here?
He’s an electrician
And is that related to adhd?
It’s a repurposed construction meme
Ohhhhhh ok. Thanks for that.
I’m so sorry, it just made perfect sense to me if you knew my one buddy when he’s off work and doesn’t take his meds. Anyway he’s an electrician and this is him to a T and it just connected in my brain.
If you want extra difficulty, I can recommend you Valproic-acid. It’s essentially an ADHD worsener, except you’re not really allowed to talk about that due to some people showing toxic positivity to psychiatric medication, in this case it’s also an anti-seizure medication.
Huh, so THAT’s the reason why I listen to so much Punk Rock
Nicotine and generational trauma seems to work, too.
