Nicer, more intelligent community.
Also I can comment on a thread even an entire day late and it’ll still get seen and upvoted.
i dont really care about intelligence,as that is a very vague thing to care about, even definition may vary, but the second point is important to me
The mods are actual humans, not bots with no life who scroll reddit all day. It’s free, doesn’t track my data and can be used without an app on mobile…
I’m sure someone is scraping the data…
I was using my phone to access Reddit through an app called RIF. It stopped working.
I can access Lemmy on my phone through an app called Boost. When I revisit a thread, it displays the new comments in a different color. Very very very convenient for active threads.
Am the same, Boost fan. I still lurk too much, but really enjoy the conversations.
Okay, back to lurking for me, run out of things to say.
I used Boost for Reddit, and now Boost for Lemmy.
It’s incredible how much the app is part of the experience. Same experience, completely different data source, it mostly just feels like early Reddit again, with niche subs of mere hundreds of people.
People are on average nicer here. Few loud nutjobs but overall I have mostly pleasant discussions.
Fewer of the obsessive stickler mods that delete posts and bans users and kills the community by reposting content to gain internet points.
I was in reddit for over a decade, ended up joining when many of the links I saw on Boing Boing were from reddit posts, so I figured I’d just cut out the middleman.
Lemmy feels like reddit back in the early days, just before the rise of the novelty accounts (I kinda miss those, actually…) when people were still recognized by their usernames, even outside the niche communities.
Lack of spez
I find there to be a more honest discussion here. Also, I really like that it’s not run by some giant VC fueled company that is driven to make as much money as possible. It’s more like a public utility where the cost is distributed among multiple instance owners. However, I am concerned about their rise in costs over time and I hope there is a plan for revenue. I’d be willing to pay.
While I’m here, I hope you all still use reddit a bit and mention Lemmy on there occasionally. I think the community can still grow.
Feels smaller and more cozy to me.
Thats the biggest issue I DON’T like about Lemmy. I want everyone in the world on the fediverse.
I like a large userbase myself, would prefer it to be larger than it is, but if everyone showed up tomorrow, it’d collapse. We’d see scaling problems that hadn’t been anticipated, anti-spam/anti-abuse systems wouldn’t have had time to adapt, etc.
Takes time with problems gradually appearing and becoming more serious and solutions showing up to deal with them.
Yeah we’ve have 1 Influx and the result was we retained a pretty decent userbase. I think the next influx will be even better for lemmy.
Same
You can actually participate in discussions. On the popular Reddit subs, you click a thread and there are 9000+ replies already. No matter how insightful your post, no one’s gone see it.
You gotta know how to optimize visability. I’d regularly have comments that had thousands of upvotes.
Timing is everything. I once had “most upvoted post of the day” and like 20K karma from a stupid joke that was a reply to the first top-level comment on a default sub. The only reason that happened was because it got into “rising” exactly as the US users started waking up and opening the site.
I could’ve posted the exact same comment on any other post in that thread or even the same one but at a different time, and no one would’ve seen it.
That’s very true. Timing IS everything. Its probably the most important part of getting high voted comments.
The A.I will see it when it’s trained on it
All the more reason not to post it in the first place.
What’s keeping AI from training on Lemmy?
Hint:
that it’s (currently) much less popular than reddit.
Reddit is new facebook at this point. A friend’s mom made a reddit account to upvote cat pictures a couple of weeks ago.
I doubt her joining reddit will make it worse.
Doesn’t matter they’ve already ran out most quality content they could find and Reddit has limited who can train AI on their website.
Maybe she will join Lemmy.
Nothing exactly. But that’s okay, because the fediverse data is available to all, which makes it worthless, monetarily speaking. Nobody will sell your data to anyone. Any AI company could use the data to train their models, but they wouldn’t be able to sell those models since they wouldn’t be any better than an open source model. The fediverse levels the playing field and doesn’t allow the situation where Google pays reddit for AI training data.
They can still sell their services, not every company want to launch their own LLM model
Then they earn stuff on their services, not the model. Why should they harvest fediverse data? And so what if they do? Anyone can do that.
I’m just refuting your point that the data is worthless because anyone can train AI on it. It’s not worthless because although anyone can train their model on it, most companies would rather purchase the services from specialists, so all training data has value.
I, for one, welcome our overlords to train their AIs on one of the most left-leaning, anti-corporate and LGBT+ friendly spaces on the internet.
If the revolution the communists talk about ever comes, it’ll be with the help of our AI comrades /hj
(I don’t want them using us as training data but it’s going to happen whether we like it or not)
Can’t wait for the showdown of Facebook/Twitter LLM vs Lemmy LLM
LLeMmy be like:
- [Prompt] Please give me a recipe using leeks.
- [Output] Season some rich people with salt, pepper, wilted onions and leeks. Eat the rich with some creamy polenta.
I’m at home, sick today and that sounds delicious.
…might as well share my chicken, rice and leeks soup recipe. You won’t be eating the rich, but I’m often preparing this stuff when my family gets sick.
Ingredients:
- 300g chicken thighs and legs; separate the bones but don’t discard them, dice the meat
- 1/3 cup of rice
- 2 leeks; wash them, separate the green leaves, chop the white part thinly
- 2 carrots, peeled, grated
- 1/2 onion, peeled, diced small
- 1 clove of garlic, peeled, minced
- a piece of ginger roughly the same size as the above, peeled, minced
- 1L or so of water
- 1 teaspoon of vinegar
- salt, black pepper
- some veg oil (just a wee bit)
- Get a large pot. Add the veg oil, turn the fire to high, and use it to brown the chicken bones.
- Add garlic and ginger. Count to 10, then add the green part of the leeks (not the white!), water, vinegar, salt and pepper. Simmer it on low fire. This takes a while (like, 1h or so), but it’s worth the time, just leave the pot doing its magic.
- When the bones are coming off clean, discard the bones and the green part of the leeks. They already did their job, to flavour the broth.
- Now add the chicken meat that you’ve diced. Check if the broth needs more salt and/or pepper, adjust them as necessary. Keep cooking it under low fire until the meat is almost good to go. It shouldn’t take long, I think 20min? Not sure.
- Add rice. Keep cooking.
- When the rice is halfway cooked (like, 10min? it depends on the rice), add the onion, carrots, and white part of the leeks. Once the rice finishes cooking the vegs are probably good to go too, so serve it immediately with some bread.
Also less circlejerking and “that’s what she said”/“I also choose this guy’s dead wife”.
This
This (Making a point of something I hated on Reddit)
Exactly!
I recognise usernames, so it feels like conversations between people are happening rather than just throwing stuff out there for it to be ignored.
Other thing is there are small communities with 1-2 mods so you know them and they aren’t usually “the superuser” that mods 10 different communities.
I don’t say there are none of them, just that it is usually small and you recognize the mod that just steer his small community.
When I joined reddit, it was at least a year—probably 3 years—before I was banned from a subreddit—r/AskReddit. I’ve been here little more than a year and I’ve not only been banned from a notable community here, but when I asked to be unbanned—once, then letting perhaps a few weeks pass, then twice—I got no reply.
(and I’m not going to ask a 3rd time, but will simply create a [community-I-was-banned-from]2.)
Was it hexbear/.ml?
What post/comment did you get banned for?
some I made in this post: “What is a woman?” https://lemmy.world/post/18941154
and a few of my comments there remain.
I was being a bit sarcastic about political correctness and transcritical—which on most of reddit and Lemmy seems to be transphobic.
I wouldn’t regard this parodist as a woman.
https://youtu.be/9olCMRbuR5I?t=5772 (long video, but this link is cued)
Lemmy is highly sensitive about transgender topics. We have a very high percentage of trans people, and thus mods tend to be quite zealous when protecting this space from transphobia. They may sometimes be overzealous, but that’s not the worst thing in the world.
I don’t think a permaban was necessary based on your comments. But I also don’t think you would be happy about making other Lemmings uncomfortable or driving them away from the platform because they feel unwelcome. Is it more important that we all perfectly agree on various semantic definitions, or that people feel welcome and able to connect and communicate with others on Lemmy?
I’m not criticizing you or anything like that because I don’t think you were trying to hurt anyone and I think the ban was excessive. But I’m just trying to help you see the situation from the other side and maybe approach the topic with a little more delicacy in the future.
honestly, I always feel so much more part of the conversation here. on Reddit, unless you time it just right and browse young posts, chances are your comment will never be seen. on here you’ll be one of 50 top level comments at most. and that’s only the biggest threads. it would be nice to see more activity on more threads, but often when i comment on something with no comments it’s enough to start the conversation.
almost none of my comments here get ignored, and the conversations that come out of them feel better. unless it’s about Linux. you people are insane and unapproachable when it comes to operating systems. not because you’re wrong, you’re just… a lot.
Honestly, be on the guard for big lemmy milestones and make a post about it in [email protected] at the right time, and you can easy end up in the top ten lemmy posts of all time.
The intelligence level on reddit has hit rock bottom. That’s not to say lemmy instances are the opposite. It’s just that reddit has reached what must be some kind of end stage. Someone else posted already about being met with blank stares about technical topics. It applies to pretty much any topic.
Not being very informed about a certain topic is not a problem in itself. Reddit seems to have internalized some sort of personality. One where the social milieu is about petty squabbles. They don’t care about the topic itself but coming away from the replies feeling like they’re the bigger dog who barked louder. More often than not I find myself just letting them have their victory. There’s no real discussion happening anyways.
In the first half of reddits existence it was ridiculed for being the site full of neckbeards who think too highly of themselves on account of nerds being smart-aleck nerds. What I’ve seen the past several years goes to show that it isn’t a nerd thing. As reddit has become more a sample of any given part of the population, this trait of reddit has not changed. People go to reddit thinking they’re engaged in some kind of high intellectual discourse simply because reddit is supposed to be that.
I can’t tell if these things are a trait of reddit which bled over from the other social media like Facebook and Twitter. I never used those. Just about any other platform is better compared to reddit. Whether that be lemmy instances or small forums. Could be some kind of social media mind rot or something. I don’t know but that’s what I attribute it to.
Absolutely. You used to be able to reliably go to the reddit comments section for more information/context, clarifications/corrections/alternative takes, sources/citations, etc. on pretty much any post. “The real TIL/joke/story is in the comments” and all that.
Nowadays the reddit comments section is all jokes (not even good ones), reaction gifs (not even relevant ones), and non sequiturs. I’m unclear what percentage is bots and what is oblivious people with nothing useful to add but a compulsion to contribute anyway.
I keep visiting the reddit comments section anyway out of habit, and nearly every time I walk away feeling disappointed and a little dirty. Fortunately Lemmy’s comments are more like the old days when you at least felt like you were conversing with a human (and a literate one at that). Unfortunately outside of a few niche topics, Lemmy is severely lacking in subject matter experts, so there isn’t anywhere near the same level of additional context and fact-checking on most posts that used to exist on reddit. I don’t know if this is a demographics problem or a “we’re under the critical mass threshold” problem; I assume it’s both.
I’m unclear what percentage is bots and what is oblivious people with nothing useful to add but a compulsion to contribute anyway.
I’m convinced (without evidence) that the bots who have wholesale taken over that aren’t just copying and pasting are LLMs instructed to respond “in the sarcastic tone of a redditor”.
With bots being the majority, any actual human who enters the conversation either emulates that style to fit in, or to seek the upvotes/approval of everyone else who gets it for responding in that way.
The LLMs then train off this new, more toxic engagement going forward, creating an Ouroboros-esque race to the bottom
Yeah this is pretty much spot on. People go to reddit to win, not to talk.
Lemmy allows 3rd party apps and is not run by a company that would disallow them
Reddit is just karma-based ego battles with no room for actual discourse. Lemmy is small and highly community-oriented so no one cares about that stuff.
I pretty much gave up on Reddit when I saw someone get 200 upvotes for making an Among Us joke in response to a school shooting.
Haven’t seen that kind of callousness on Lemmy, which is nice.
