For those not familiar with it, it is an aptitude test that covers a wide range of topics. The results can be informational. Beware if you score well enough to fill a job in the army that is really understaffed, you will never get the recruiters to stop calling.
We took it senior year and I really didn’t know about it at the time. I must have flipped some switch because every branch started calling, and a navy recruiter actually came to my house wanting to talk about nuke school. I was like I don’t want to bomb anyone with nukes thank you very much lol.
NPS ‘nuke school’ focuses mainly on shipboard nuclear power plant operation, like nuclear powered subs.
I read that as “nuclear powered studs” and was thinking “about right for navy”
I took it, had an army recruiter show up a year later and asked to speak with me. My mom said I had already enlisted, the guy goes, “Oh, we already got em?”
“No, the Navy did, he left for bootcamp last fall.”
Also had my recruiter step between the Navy MEPS guy and I to tell him to fuck off and find me a job I wanted. He would not let the nuke thing go, and my recruiters already knew I had no interest and backed my other job choices. 😂
“I’m sorry, I had an accident lately. Lost a hand and half my lung, and lost parts of my gray matter. Anyways, what would be my starting rank? General?”
Yep. I got hounded for years and years.
I scored high on all fields but one and the recruiter never left me alone for four years, even finding me on Facebook.
I wonder how low you have to score before the military doesn’t bother to recruit you, because I had to take the ASBAV in high school and I just filled in bubbles at random since I had no interest in dying in Iraq. I still got a high enough score that recruiters kept bothering me for years.
Don’t need a high score to be a bullet sponge in the army.
I knew a guy that got a 14, he had to retake it to join the army
I had all 3 branches showing up at my house and lying to my face to get me to join after my school made me take it.
You’d think they would realize that lying to someone who scored really high was a bad idea.
Just because you scored high doesn’t mean they did. They are recruiters, after all.
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But you could sail the seven seas…
You can put your mind at ease
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We could start the first war fought by dropping rich people from drones!
No wait… dropping rich people on fire from drones. That’s better. We might run out of rich people, but they will run out of rich people first!
We’d need a wide range of rich people munitions if we wanted to fight a war. Armor-piercing rich people, incendiary rich people, cluster rich people, high-explosive rich people. It’ll be quite the endeavor.
Doritos are really flammable. I wonder if we just feed a rich guy Doritos if it will do the trick. But you’re right, that’s just one type. How can we make a rich guy more stiff? Stuff enough for armor piercing. This will take quite a bit of lead pills.
WTF is this about? I showed up stoned from skipping class in 10th grade and took the ASVAB back in the day. I placed in the top 1% of the nation not remembering a single question. I was told I qualified for any position in the military. I got DQ’d so it was for nothing. Why is this an issue now?
Armed services don’t have enough recruits, so they want a bigger pool to chose from. If every kid has to take ASVAB, then they have a much bigger pool of possibilities, including being able to actively recruit better suited people. The other point was to expand jROTC, to do exactly that.
I had no interest in the military but took ASVAB thinking of it as practice for SAT, which I did care about. However the tests were different enough to not be good practice, plus then I was constantly recruited by all branches. I expect they want to be able to do more of this
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I think disqualified.
Rich kids and those with bone spurs will be exempt.
Ok, but also I see this causing populist style attacks on disabled kids too. Especially those with invisible or “minor but valid” disabilities that disqualify.
Require all private schools that wish to have accreditation take a minimum of $10 and a maximum of $11 of federal dollars.
Endless War is a Hallmark of Fascism. This will require a large number of cannon fodder.
Ask one of the schmucks advocating for this to be the first to enlist and I bet they’ll have some bullshit excuse as to why they can’t
It very much has the “we must give meaning to life for the idiots who can’t run their own life… and by that we mean we think you aren’t human so just do what we need to be comfortable and dominant ourselves” vibe
You’d be surprised how many private schools receive federal funding.
But honestly this isn’t the worst thing. As long as it’s interacted with in an honest manner the ASVAB is an excellent career test. So an honest interaction with it would be counselors telling students their results and showing them career paths that line up with those results. To be clear, we’re talking about civilian career paths.
The problem is I don’t hear about it being done that way anymore. (My highschool did exactly the above) I only hear about it being used by recruiters, for recruiting.
When I took my asvab I was surprised when they told me my mechanical aptitude was really good…didn’t know a Phillips from a flat head but wound up as an aircraft mechanic which was fuckin dope!
Having the right paperworks and acting on said paperwork are two unrelated things in the military.
Oh God, I was an idiot. My recruiter said I qualified for everything. I told him I wanted to be an Airborne Infantryman. He repeated, Everything, could write my own ticket. So I decided… To double down on an Airborne School and Infantry contract. If I could go back in time I’d give that man a beer, slap myself, and forge my own signature on a military intelligence analyst contract. I’d have loved that job, learning languages, embassy postings (travel), and being all up in everyone’s tea. But no 17 year old Maggoty had to be a dumbass.
I’d have loved that job, learning languages,
Former linguist here… I’d recommend not joining as a linguist on your first enlistment. Go in on something simple: admin, truck driver, something with a short tech school. Then re-enlist as a linguist.
For prior service students in a Cat IV language, Monterey is pretty much a ~2 year, paid vacation. You’ll have free time to attend college classes, take a part time job, or something else that will benefit you in the long run.
For initial entry students, it’s a 2-year, officially condoned and mandated hazing ritual.
Lmao, I have similar story but it actually worked out in the end for me. When I signed up for the Air Force I did really well on my ASVAB, but I told my recruiter that I wanted to leave as soon as possible because I just wanted to go already. Well she signed me up for open general, meaning the AF would pick my job for me. So I left for boot camp with no job and was assigned Cyber Security Analyst. Which was super lucky because I could have also been a cook or a cop or something
Dude, you were kissed by Murphy.
If it’s to see where you fit, they will put you where you fit.
Especially thanks to the corrupt AF B DeVos
The wars of the future will be between big ass companies using drones, espionage, hacking, assassins, etc. it won’t involve us poor commoners anyway.
Well, we’ll still get blowed up.
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My school had us all take it at 16.
If you refused you had to go sit in the cafeteria by yourself and weren’t allowed to even study. Just sit there with your eyes open not doing anything for like 4 hours.
I went to high school during peace time — that used to be a thing way back when — and I think my school required it for ROTC but maybe it was more of a strong suggestion rather than a requirement.
We also had possibly the worst possible system for military recruiters. You had to choose between the regular P.E. class, weight lifting (if you played a sport), and ROTC. The end result was that ROTC was always like 2% committed future service members (who would have joined the military with or without high school ROTC) and 98% awkward people avoiding sports at all cost. (Or the worst fate of all, 1st hour PE so you were the person who smelled like stanky teen gym clothes in every one of your classes.)
Our school offered it, and you got out of your other classes to take it. I’m still in the military, some 18 years later, and I’d still suggest it for everyone as an option like mine was. I wouldn’t even feel too badly about schools requiring it. It’s just another test, without any obligation after. But, for a lot of lower income families, and for students who don’t perform too well, this opens another option for them after they graduate. Especially one that, with some potential risks to your body or life… could absolutely pay for your college.
People here don’t want a real tangible way out of their money problems.
It was a good start for me as well but people on Lemmy really don’t want to hear it.
I fucked my way through HS, and graduated with a 2.7 something. I fought hard at college to get a 3.2 by graduation. And I didn’t even go STEM. I wouldn’t have ever had scholarships or been able to be a traditional student without the military. I’m not making too much, but the opportunities I’ve had have come from this option, and that test. For some people a career and opportunity can be found here. Especially those poorer or lower income individuals I work with, people who were set up for failure or had it worse than I did.
My school had us all take it at 16.
If you refused you had to go sit in the cafeteria by yourself and weren’t allowed to even study. Just sit there with your eyes open not doing anything for like 4 hours.
Every time I hear stories like this, it reminds me of my old high school. As it was the only public school in the city and there were no alternatives, it was damn near impossible to actually get expelled unless you were physically threatening or dealing cocaine in the halls.
They tried punishments like this too for a variety of reasons. Not being ready for gym class, or some hands-on class that requires a uniform. In-school suspension for minor infractions. Dress code violations. Stuff like that. They were happy that most of the kids bothered to show up and not cause problems at all. Kids were gonna sit there with their headphones on, head on a desk, and probably taking a nap. Attempting to tell the kids they couldn’t do that was probably going to be met with a middle finger. What were you gonna do, suspend them? That’s what they wanted in the first place. It was a 3 day vacation to them.
Fuck that’s awful. Were you in Idaho or something equally awful?
Pretty much, we’re also talking about right after 9/11.
We had people signing delayed papers as soon as they turned 17 so they’d go to boot immediately after HS graduation.
It was a wild time.
They had us take it in the 90s in my high school but we quickly knew it was worth nothing so everyone tanked it on purpose. We were already weary of standardized testing and knew just what to ask the teachers.
Malicious compliance is always fun but way better in groups.
A bunch of us picked the same letter for every answer so we could compare our scores and test probability.
Glad I’m not in high school anymore. But this is kind of like in line with how schools prep you for getting used to being shuffled around because after school, you’re likely going to end up in a job that’s going to function similarly. So now instead of JROTC people bothering you in high school (like mine did) to recruit, now you’re going to have the government under Trump being like “we NEED you” and you’ve got no choice but to go.
Isn’t this like a preface setting for a draft? Sounds like it to me. This all says it’s a draft without trying to say or feel like it’s one.
Tell me it’s a draft without telling me it’s a draft
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Good fucking luck. Trying to get schools to give any standardized test is like pulling teeth, entire states have given up on the idea.
