Winamp released its source code with a license that drew a lot of attention. That’s when other apps’ code was found inside.
  • MeaanBeaan@lemmy.worldEnglish
    70·
    27 days ago

    I’m surprised they kept it up for so long honestly. It was very clear they had no fucking clue what they were doing. What with the nonsensical license that violated Github’s tos, the Dolby Code they leaked, and the fact they kept every commit public for everyone to see.

    • jonne@infosec.pubEnglish
      121·
      26 days ago

      And it’s not like deleting will fix it now, it’s been copied millions of times now.

    • wingsfortheirsmiles@feddit.ukEnglish
      12·
      27 days ago

      Still miss foobar which isn’t on Linux, though deadbeef is fairly similar at least. Never got the hang of all the beautiful themes/skins users put together for foobar but it was still my go to music player. Excellent layout customisation, tagging and conversion UI, as well as as nice range of plugins

      • dubyakay@lemmy.caEnglish
        7·
        27 days ago

        I really like deadbeef, coming from fb2k as well. Someone recommended it to me two weeks ago, and I’ve immediately recognized the similarities.

        Foobar’s Dev should have just taken their project open source imo. Although I suspect winamp’s lawyers would have jumped on that.

    • spyd3r@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      17·
      27 days ago

      Foobar is still the best there is, although the classic style interface might not appeal to younger people.

    • skaffi@infosec.pubEnglish
      191·
      26 days ago

      What a shame that it isn’t open source.

      I’ll happily continue to use Audacious with a Winamp skin.

      • ocassionallyaduck@lemmy.worldEnglish
        51·
        25 days ago

        Well, given the very unorthodox nature of it as it is today, I don’t know that Dr0 can legally open source it until he’s finished replacing literally all legacy functions with new code, even if they wanted to. But I can understand your position.

        • skaffi@infosec.pubEnglish
          3·
          24 days ago

          Whether that’s the case or not, I think it is secondary to the fact that he clearly says on the website that he definitely doesn’t want it to go open source, for as long as he is working on it.

          • ocassionallyaduck@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            24 days ago

            He defines that as wanting to be in control of the project so long as he has the passion to work on it solo. But it’s somewhat implied that if he had to let it go, he may open source his work. I can understand that. DrO was one of the primary and most prolific Winamp plugin devs back in it’s heyday as well. So if you ever used Winamp itself (closed source) you have already trusted his code on much more vulnerable OSes, imo.

            I feel like he’s earned the limited trust this requires.

  • Wispy2891@lemmy.worldEnglish
    64·
    27 days ago

    Can someone explain me what’s the business model of an app that’s free for three decades? They claim to have 100 devs, how can they pay them?

    • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      26 days ago

      The current revived version appears to be tied to a content streaming platform for “creators,” and also sells NFT’s. The mothership certainly gets a cut of all of those sales. Just like seemingly every other techbro venture nowadays, their business model entirely revolves around being a “service,” and the media player itself is apparently just a side hobby. (Note that this is basically exactly the same mutation that happened to Napster. That worked well.)

      Otherwise, the answer is sponsorship by a corporate sugar daddy. Even the OG Winamp was sponsored by and then ultimately bought outright by AOL.

  • Luna@lemdro.idEnglish
    18·
    26 days ago

    I am proud to be one of the 2.6k people who illegally forked winamp

    • Sam_Bass@lemmy.worldEnglish
      6·
      26 days ago

      i use musicbee for audio. vlc for video. musicbee is the most like mediamonkey used to be and free. got into vlc because of its better support of the unusual video formats

    • Mwa@lemm.eeEnglish
      4·
      26 days ago

      Same even my school used vlc wayy before I knew floss software

      • emil_98@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        23 days ago

        What sucks about it? I just use it because it seems to play literally any video format

        • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          2·
          22 days ago

          The UX.

          The functionality is great, and like you said, it can play pretty much anything. But the UX feels like it’s stuck in the late 90s, and the following are more ugly and painful than they need to be:

          • playlists
          • streaming
          • converting file types

          It can do a ton of stuff, but none of it is particularly intuitive, because the UX sucks. But it works great at the basic functionality I need, which is playing pretty much any video format.

  • edric@lemm.eeEnglish
    331·
    27 days ago

    I just use Audacious with a winamp skin. Looks identical but actually FOSS.

    • L3ft_F13ld!@links.hackliberty.orgEnglish
      51·
      27 days ago

      Been doing this recently too. I’ve just got the default Winamp skin, but it’s so nice to have that part of my childhood back.

    • Shihali@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      11·
      27 days ago

      Strawberry doesn’t support about a dozen audio formats I use, so until it’s got wider support I have to pass.

      • tekato@lemmy.worldEnglish
        201·
        27 days ago

        You have support for .wav .flac .mp3 .opus, why would you use anything else?

        • dezmd@lemmy.worldEnglish
          4·
          26 days ago

          If it doesn’t play Amiga era .mod files, is it really even a music player?

          • tekato@lemmy.worldEnglish
            3·
            26 days ago

            Funny enough, it does. Here’s the full list of supported formats. Line 54:

            const char FileView::kFileFilter = ".wav *.flac *.wv *.ogg *.oga *.opus *.spx *.ape .mpc " ".mp2 *.mp3 *.m4a *.mp4 *.aac *.asf *.asx .wma " ".aif *.aiff *.mka *.tta *.dsf .dsd " ".cue *.m3u *.m3u8 *.pls *.xspf .asxini " ".ac3 .dts " ".mod *.s3m *.xm .it" ".spc *.vgm";

            Although like .spc, it doesn’t support seeking, you have to listen to the whole file in order or restart for the beginning.

        • Shihali@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          7·
          27 days ago

          Because hard drives aren’t getting any bigger lately and I don’t want to multiply the size of my videogame music collection by ten?

          • tekato@lemmy.worldEnglish
            111·
            27 days ago

            You are saving your music in a format more efficient than opus or aac? What format is that?

            • Shihali@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              18·
              27 days ago

              Chiptune formats for retro videogame music can be very efficient. Just picking two with particularly good music, I have a 21 KB (0.02 MB) file storing 28:30 of music and 4.72 MB of files storing 1:54:48 of music, both at source quality.

              The catch is that they are designed exclusively to rip chiptunes from retro videogames as close as the format designers and player coders could manage to the original. So even the oversized ones like the 4.72 MB of files extracted from a 3 MB game are going to be far smaller than a general use format like opus. But you can’t encode your own music in the format without going to massive effort to code it like you would an authentic chiptune, and you’re unlikely to like the results.

              • moriquende@lemmy.worldEnglish
                5·
                27 days ago

                Damn, may I ask how big your entire library is? At those sizes, you can store more music than I’ll ever need in a couple of gbs.

                • Shihali@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                  14·
                  27 days ago

                  Everything filed under “Chiptune”, excluding the AT3 and MAB files which are effectively general purpose music formats, comes to 1.14 GB for 4211 items totaling 158:50:29. There are a lot of duplicates in there, because for a lot of these items it’s more trouble to hunt down a replacement copy than it is to store a backup.

                  The catch, of course, is that it’s all retro videogame music from bleep to bloop.

                • Shihali@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                  12·
                  27 days ago

                  Those are SPC files, and that particular example was one rip of Final Fantasy VI (III)'s soundtrack.

                  Unfortunately, it only handles music embedded in Super Famicom/Super Nintendo games. To convert your own music to SPC, you’d have to rewrite it for the SNES sound chip.

    • ѕєχυαℓ ρσℓутσρє@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
      21·
      27 days ago

      I mostly use mpv to play local music nowadays. (Most of the music I play is streamed using a Navidrome server with Feishin as the frontend.) Back when I did use a proper audio player on Linux, Harmonoid was my go-to.

    • Clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      4·
      27 days ago

      Will strawberry let me play a folder as a playlist from the DE’s context menus? Like right click > play in strawberry.

    • mannycalavera@feddit.ukEnglish
      352·
      27 days ago

      Lovely that it is open source, but dear lord that UI is a blast from the past 😂😂 👴👵🏚️