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Roughly correlates with the rate of decrease in people 18-30 having sex. I’m not sure of the order of influence there, or if there even is one, but it’s possible the declining presence of sex in media is a result of it being less relatable for something like 30% more young people than previous generations.
What bothers me more is that violence gets a PG rating here, sex gets an X rating. How in the world is it more inappropriate for kids to see people naked than for them to watch someone hack someone else to death? The graphic violence should get a more restricted rating than on screen sex.
When your nation always needs to be at war, it’s helps to repress sexuality and normalize violence. This isn’t so much a conspiracy theory, but an observation of an emergence behavior that reinforces itself.
I think you have a good point. It’s also a important part of the handmaid’s tail. Where sex is repressed for most of society. Especially soldiers (?!).
Another part maybe is sports, American society spend so much money in teaching sport to kids at a level that is pretty high. Compared to other nations.
Wait do video games cause violence after all?
I wonder if it’s linked to the decline in sex in real life due to young people staying inside more and playing video games instead of socializing. I swear I saw an article about that at some point on Lemmy (or maybe Reddit).
People, especially young people are having sex less across the board because everyday life has become a crushing grind, not because of videogames and staying inside. People do choose to do those things instead of socializing… because they are burnt out from trying to meet rent, getting treated like shit at work and sitting in hours of traffic everyday.
Young people are still just as horny, they are just also very tired and sad.
I wanna see this extended back to at least 1980, which was around the peak for nudity and sex scenes in film; after porn was legalized but before internet porn.
The movie that made me want to avoid all sex scenes in movies was Watchmen. Between the completely unnecessary scene and the song that played but just tainted the whole movie.
Except for the music, the scenes were pretty much straight from the book:
I didn’t have any issues with the Dr Manhattan scene. It was the Nightowl one with Hallelujah playing that felt so cringe.
I totally agree. That was a weird fucking scene.
I saw unnecessary violence in a movie and now I never want to see violence again.
It wasn’t just unnecessary it was bad. Did you see it?
No
This chart makes me wonder about cigarette smoking specifically. It feels like if you looked back 40 years it would be a “U”.
I noticed this as well. I don’t really care either way, just that it was noticeable. The other part I noticed is that if there is nudity, I feel like it’s a way higher percentage that it’s a male. I’m not going to lie if I had to choose I would rather see the other sex, but I understand we had way too long of a time with it being a one-way street.
Another thing ruined by Gen Z. ;)
https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/sex-on-screen-ucla-study-gen-z-teens-young-adults-1235768046/
wdym ruined?
So glad it isn’t us millennials ruining everything nowadays. Your turn, gen Z!
if you believe IASIP analysis in s14 e2 “thundergun 4 : maximum cool”; a highly respected source in media studies circles. They put it down to piracy as a prominent root cause.
I think that’s a resonably “millenial” thing, at least in terms or p2p internet piracy like napster, soulseek, piratebay, bittorrent.
if you believe IASIP analysis in s14 e2 “thundergun 4 : maximum cool”; a highly respected source in media studies circles. They put it down to piracy as a prominent root cause.
I think that’s a resonably “millenial” thing, at least in terms or p2p internet piracy like napster, soulseek, piratebay, bittorrent.
Because the world shifted to the right a bunch more regarding sexual content… fucking websites now want you to show your ID in some states to view porn.
I think acclaimed director Paul Verhoeven put it best when he called our country a land full of gleefully violent prudes when people freaked out about his use of sexuality, nudity and people being comfortable naked around members of the opposite sex.
When nudity/sexuality is shown artistically or actually has some depth or place in the story being told, I enjoy it, but 90% of that hollywood shit is hot garbage and I think a lot of folks feel the same.
90% of that hollywood shit is hot garbage and I think a lot of folks feel the same.
And who HASN’T been in a situation, watching TV or movie with parents or other polite company, when a sex scene comes on (completely unnecessary to the plot), making everyone uncomfortable. I’d like to think that audience surveys have been taken into account to make Hollywood stop including sex scenes.
That’s why I only watch shows like sex/life with my in laws the sex is crucial to the plot.
It’s only uncomfortable if you make it uncomfortable, but if you’re all adults it doesn’t have to be. Maybe it helps to grow up in a less puritanical country than the US though.
Drag was a teenager when drag saw Oblivion with drag’s dad. The underwater sex scene was not fun.
You deserve it for typing like that
Everyone fucks. I don’t need to see the details about that aspect of most characters’ lives in order to understand the story being told about that character. I love sex scenes. I hate sex scenes that are gratuitous and don’t enhance my understanding of story or character. If it’s not needed for one of those things, it doesn’t belong in the story. (and that’s true for any kind of scene, not just sex scenes)
If the purpose of the sex scene is “you get to see this actress mostly naked” and no other purpose - then yeah, that feels cheap and gratuitous. Make a movie where her sex life matters if you want to show me that.
Only on-screen violence now though. If you dare protect yourself physically, you’ll go to prison and everyone will scorn you.
The disappearance of the sex scene in American cinema, the suppression of the body under the moral imperative of commodities in neoliberal capitalism, and Verhoeven as antagonizer.
Bro, you gotta stop reading shit like this. It’s bad for your brain. Not everything is capitalistic plot to suppress your whatever.
Why wouldn’t you be able to see it as “the viewers didn’t enjoy our cringe sex scenes, so we got rid of them, cuz we sure as hell couldn’t put real sex scenes into movies”. And no, not because of purity. But because even good porn is cringe and fake.
So maybe it’s really a decomcratic decision and it’s only possible because through capitalism there’s monetary pressure on the film industry to do the things people want.
Whichever it is, you gotta stop reading BS that starts with a conclusion in the first sentence, and no matter the subject it’s the same conclusion: capitalism oppressing the working class. You’d make Lenin cringe.
Yeah, I’m not discussing the article further after checking your post history.
Just one little tidbit of information for you: The sentences at the start on a rather lenghty article, usually set in a different typeset, is called “synopsis”. I know I know, I was like “wooaaah” when I learned that >30 years ago.
You realize there is more than the US in the world right…? You’re really proving stereotypes by saying “the world” and then giving only US states as an example. A lot of the world haven’t shifted to the right. It’s pretty certain this graph was based on mostly American stuff anyway, so both the image, this whole post and you are all doing the classic 'Murican thing of thinking US specific things apply to the whole world.
Sorry - meant just “the world of media.” Obviously a majority of films marketed internationally seem to be from the US, but yeah it’s mostly a US issue. We’re violent sexually repressed religious prudes.
The world didn’t do shit.
It was as normal in Europe to be naked and talk about sex as it is now. Actually, it probably got even a bit more normal.
Your stupid Hollywood is somehow watched by everyone around the world while it’s produced to cater to your dumb average American. And they’re religious and prudent. And that has been the case since forever. Which is why having naked breasts in your cinema is something wild.
In the meantime french movies would casually have people full naked every second movie.
Am I really on a movies community?
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Now, your dumb Hollywood realized their cringe sex scenes aren’t appreciated by about anyone, and so they cut them out. Big deal.
Definitely not the world shifting, and not even your moronic populace. Proportion of religious prudes is still dropping even in the dumbfuckistan. And yet no more sex in the movies. Go figure.
You use strong words for my taste, although I would agree that Americans are much more prudent than Europeans. But the graph we’re discussing here shows a decline in sex depiction in the movies. It shows there are less sex scenes than there used to be. The decline cannot be explained by the differences between the USA and Europe.
https://bloodknife.com/everyone-beautiful-no-one-horny/
Not just sex but the sexual tension/chemistry or whatever you wanna call it.
One example is Tobey Maguire and Kirsten Dunst in Spider-man trilogy vs Tom Holland and Zendaya in MCU movies. The former couple dated briefly but broke up before the production of second movie. Second one’s are dating for almost 5 years (officially). Yet the Raimi movies have this chemistry that MCU movies lack. The relationship feels like checklist.
Another is Eva Green vs Lea Seydoux in Bond movies.
Drag doesn’t think the Raimi couple have any chemistry. Peter and MJ are bad for each other. They don’t know how to relationship. Tom and Zendaya are comfortable together. They’re mutually supportive.
Let’s make a movie about the creator of the nuclear bomb! We can explore the moral implications, the political drama of communists in the USA during and after WW2, the creations of Los Alamos, the interesting science of…
Random corporate head: “Let’s have a sex scene! That will make things interesting!”
This is exactly what came to my mind. It was so unexpected.
Oh, wait, Fappenheimer the war criminal really has a sex scene? Lul
Now I am become death, the destroyer of… Ooo… titties!
Booties
Though admittedly IRL and not in jokes I like titties more too, hair and eyes even more so.
That interrogation scene was so awful. It jumpscared me.
ok, now I’m torn. I am completely happy with less sex scenes and prefer it because it just isn’t trivial to the plot what-so-ever. But, then you had to bring Florence Pugh into it.
Good! it always looks “bolted on”, awkward, and doesn’t advance the plot
Watching with your family kinda makes it awkward with some random sex scene out of nowhere.
But the kids love seeing people being stabbed and shot and torn apart, right?
We should be more comfortable with tits and ass than guns. We’re not and that’s a problem.
We should be more comfortable with tits and ass, both sexualised and casual, but not every action flick needs a tacked on romance with two leads slobbering over each other two thirds through the movie
guns are fun toys, breasts are the work of the devil
/s
Rise of sex in TV series 📈
The effect porn on portable devices had on how much people need to make deposits in the spank bank
Sex scenes were usually forced in by people screaming sex sells. These days there are different ways to see breasts than going to a cinema.
This, I think, may be one of the reasons, yes. I have a feeling it’s a combination of this (which I see as a change for the better) with people being a bit more prudish (which is not very good in my opinion). And the latter might be the reason for the former, when I think about it, but not necessarily. I wonder whether there’s some good research on this.
