Utterly stupid little things, its money that is less useful in EVERY situation and expires! Even at the store where you can use it, what do you do with the money that’s leftover but too little to spend? Especially at expensive places, you could very well end up with 10-20$ OF YOUR OWN MONEY, that you can’t even use!
I was given a dunkin giftcard for volunteering at a repair cafe. First of all I’m on a diet but secondly I stuffed it in my wallet so quickly I completely forgot about it. The day I remember and go through the trouble of attending such a wretched establishment I was told it expired after I finished giving my order! After such bother to try to use this cursed thing I refuse to return fruitless from my endeavors so I paid with my own cash.
It is now, sulking into my hashbrowns and Boston cream do I realize I am now poorer, fatter and fucking miserable. FUCK gift cards.
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I buy gift cards for the discounts. Usually you can get a gift card from anywhere between 3% and 20% off. Over the last 5 years, this has saved me $1000s on house renovations alone.
This is honestly the only reason to buy a gift card especially at Costco. They often sell gift cards for 20% off their face value.
I have a credit card that gives 6% cash back on grocery stores. Gift Cards are supposed to be excluded from that, but it still works at some stores. I used to buy Amazon gift cards, effectively making Amazon 6% cheaper.
There’s some psychological stuff to consider, though. Did I spend more on Amazon because there was a gift card balance? I like to tell myself no, but I probably did.
Gift cards are great for the company they’re tied to because they basically just made a sale of that amount and now it’s up to the receiver to take the initiative to actually get anything from the company. Plus with inflation the value of the card always decreases. Plus you’ll usually end up buying a little more than the amount on the gift card just to use it all up.
I think cash is usually a better gift, with one exception: a gift card can be a way to give someone permission to get something from a store that they would really like but usually not actually spend their own money there.
For me, I buy gift cards at a discount when I know I’m going to buy at a given store anyways. Might as well get $20 off of whatever.
It’s not just a sale. Gift card money is invested and the company makes returns off of it, and all they have to do is provide you the base value of the gift card in coffee or whatever at some later date. Plus, if your purchases don’t add to a whole number, millions of gift cards with like 30 cents left over in each of them is a ton of free money for the company. Gift cards are a huge scam
Gift card money is invested same as sales, it rings up the same. This stuff gets sloshed together in the overall balance sheet. It amounts to probabilistic overpaying, where one person might spend their whole card immediately (no overpaying), another takes their time using it (overpaid at the rate of inflation), and another forgets about it, loses it, or just never spends all of it (overpayment by the amount left on the card).
You could also think of it as zero-interest debt issued by the purchaser to the store, payable in future purchase credits with the onus on the lender of the debt to collect later. As you note, the store can invest the money immediately so it is guaranteed profit.
I can think of a couple of uses from the top off my head.
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For parents. This is a way to control what kind of products your children could get, giving them a limited sense of control.
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There are people that are not very generous when it comes to giving away something. Like those who won’t give money to beggars because they believe beggars will spend it in drugs. But in this situation they think they keep some control on the money they give away.
In both cases, if the person is smart enough, they will find out how to make cash from the gift card anyway. However, they’d be really gifted salespersons if they can get the whole value back.
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My mom used to save gift cards and use them for “special things”, to get something she really wanted but was a splurge for her. When she died, she had probably like $800-900 in gift cards waiting to be spent, and they’d lost like a third of their value. They were part of my mom’s estate, so they went to my sister (the executrix). When my sister died, I found those exact same gift cards, still unspent, only this time they’d lost all their value. Plus she has a bunch of gift cards of her own that she’d been saving that had lost a bunch of value as well.
I know I’m fortunate that I don’t need to scrape money, and that not everyone can afford to do this. But after losing out on a bunch of money, this is what I do: when someone gives me a gift card, I spend it immediately and enthusiastically tell the giver what I got - or, in some cases, supposedly got: occasionally I’ll use the card to buy a gift for someone else, or I’ll just buy gas or groceries. But I use it on something I want or need, even if it’s just in the vaguest way. That avoids losing the value of the money, which I absolutely hate.
But I take the birthday or holiday or thank-you or thinking-of-you card that the gift card came in, and I’ll tuck in the same amount of cash as was on the gift card. I have a little stash of cards in my desk (and my heir knows to check those cards), all with some amount of money in them. And when I’m feeling down, or really need a treat, or just need to remember that I’m loved, I go pull out the cards and read through some of them. And if I’m still feeling bad, I may pull out some money from the card and go buy myself something - an ice cream or a nice dinner or a pair of socks - it doesn’t matter. To me, it’s that person giving me a giant hug on a day that I really need it, whether that person is even still around - to me, that’s an immensely valuable gift, and something that I always treasure.
Also, to keep each gift giving, I usually sneak back a couple weeks later and put the same amount of money back into the envelope: just because I spent that specific money doesn’t mean my mom or grandma loved me any less, and sometimes I need to be reminded of that.
This won’t answer your question directly, but I know in some jurisdictions gift cards or prepaid lunch cards are taxed differently than income and that’s why employers often resort to these instead of actual salary raises
Volunteering?
There’s a good chance got them because dunkin donated them or because the cafe didn’t want to give cash for fear it could be construed as pay.
The point of gift cards is that they’re: a. Not money (when using money might have some sort of disadvantage for either side). b. Have restrictions that the person who gave it to you might want to impose. c. Are usually cheaper than paying money directly to the vendor.
And frankly, no one forced you to try and use them. They were given as a gesture of appreciation, and you could have given them to someone who would have been happy to have them, or just politely refuse to accept them. Also, not checking the expiration date is on you.
It’s the middle thing between not gifting something specific but also no just giving money. Sometimes you are not sure what exactly a person wants, but giving money directly might feel too unpersonal? Other than that, i completely agree with you that it sucks. Stores must love them though, they already have the money without having to provide a service / product and then many people will forget, the gift cards expire etc. I’m of the opinion that the cards shouldn’t expire, or at least have a very high expiration date (like minimum 10 years).
Just give money. Its bizarre and sick that you feel the need to have your gift blessed by a corporation. As if the 3 minutes spent buying the things to have some fraction taken by your corporate overlord somehow means you tried anymore than giving a stack of money.
Except a lot of people won’t take just money.
It’s psychological but it’s true.
Except Chinese
Gifting cash is normal for us
It’s the middle thing between not gifting something specific but also no just giving money.
It’s literally just branded money.
It comes down to discomfort in giving people cash gifts. Agree that it’s stupid.
I will go a step further and say that in most cases, gift giving just destroys value. Exception for little kids, who derive a modicum of enjoyment from whatever plastic crap you give them.
When I had Netflix I registered it with a gift card.
I think it’s because people think giving pure cash is thoughtless and basic. If you give a gift card for that persons favorite restaurant, then it feels more personable.
Obviously having cash is better for flexibility but people don’t care sometimes
Does anyone besides boomers think this?
That’s the fancy answer.
My son receives gift cards from his friends for birthdays, and we buy them for other birthdays. I think they suck, but the truth is, we usually have no idea what to buy and this is socially acceptable to give.
For me, I use gift cards I receive as a test of the person that gave it. Someone I consider a collegue but not friend giving me a gift card to a place I like instantly makes me think they value me more than I thought. Person I consider a friend gives me a gift card instead of a gift, depending on the occasion, makes me think they like me, but can’t be bothered to put too much effort in, or are just doing because they feel obligated.
Think the FTC should get involved on this one. One gift cards should never expire. Two you should have the right to cash it out and every fucking penny off of that card. Third and last no fucking fees that eat away at the balance. If they did that then gift cards would be nice beyond that not buying those.
One gift cards should never expire.
They don’t. It’s illegal.Two you should have the right to cash it out and every fucking penny off of that card.
Money laundering.
Third and last no fucking fees that eat away at the balance.
Also illegal.What talking about. Yes the cards do expire and I have had gift cards that charge fees every time I use it quarter here 50 cents. And what meant on getting every dime if there 3 cebts left on the card the place should have to give you a 3 cent credit. Allowing you to use all of the value of the card.
You live in the united states right?
Yes unfortunately.
lol
Oh it’s five years
https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2010/11/ftc-has-gift-card-tips-holiday-buying
I haven’t run into one that expires or charges fees, weird.
There’s reloadable debit cards that have lots of fees. They are similar to gift cards, but are more something to tax the unbanked.
I think it’s because people think giving pure cash is thoughtless and basic.
This idea needs to die. I’d rather have $10 cash that I can stash away to save up for something that I actually want than a $25 gift card that locks me in to a single store.
I’m at a stage in my life where I can generally buy little things when I want to. But my wife and I don’t make enough to regularly drop hundreds or thousands of dollars on non-essentials, and my other family members can’t do more than $25 or maybe $50 for birthdays or Christmas.
It took me years to convince my parents and wife to just give me cash. When I finally did, it enabled me to save up for a $1k guitar over several years.
I’d much rather have one awesome gift every 5 years than a steady stream of $35 gift certificates to various stores and restaurants.
Not giving someone what they’re actually asking for is far less thoughtful than cash.
For reciprocal holidays like Christmas, giving cash maybe gets a little too close to exposing the pointlessness. I give you cash, then you give me cash, what are we doing here? And what if I gave you less than you gave me?
A gift card does indicate I thought a little bit about what the recipient might like, even if I know it would be impractical for me to make a choice on the recipient’s behalf, or that my gift wouldn’t be sufficient to cover a typical purchase in whole. (Thinking like gaming systems, expensive handbags etc)
All that said, I generally agree, I’m not crazy about gift cards.
You are exactly right about this
For reciprocal holidays like Christmas, giving cash maybe gets a little too close to exposing the pointlessness. I give you cash, then you give me cash, what are we doing here? And what if I gave you less than you gave me?
How does a gift card solve this though?
I give you Starbucks™ cash and you give me Chipotle™ cash. What are we doing here? What if I gave you more Starbucks™ cash then you gave me Chipotle™ cash?
It’s literally just money with brand loyalty.
I give you cash, then you give me cash, what are we doing here?
This is why I don’t give people gifts and tell others not to give me gifts. Holidays arent about gifts. If I do get a gift, I give it back to them the next year. Bonus points for giving it back in the exact same gift bag. After a decade of this, people have finally stopped giving me gifts!
For a lot of online transactions, this is usually the only way people can get access.
There are a lot of people out there who don’t have credit cards or bank accounts, so they can’t buy anything online. A gift card to an online store may be the cheapest or only way they can pay.
For those without a bank account but need to buy something online, yeah the gift card is a good idea.
I’d still give them the cash and let them buy the gift card they want.
Depending on where you live, gift cards legally can’t expire. They only become worthless if the company goes out of business.
The rest of what you said I agree with
I’ve heard that too, but employees can’t override rejection of expired cards, so to use your rightfully owned cash, you have to fight with the company via online customer service and maybe even threaten to sue.
Because of that, even in countries and states where cards don’t expire, they essentially do.
Can’t argue with any of that
Because someone conviced people that giving money as a present is a no no, but a “gift card” isn’t, I’d rather you give me $20 cash over a $30 gift card for one specific set of stores that you’d never goto.
This
Where I live it’s illegal to have them expire. They can:
- Provide a spending limit for a vice
- frees the user of the need to spend it responsibly
- a safer way to spend money online and an alternative to a credit card.
I don’t mind getting a steam gift card or an lcbo (liquor store) card, I know what liquor and games I like more than the people gifting. An Amazon gift card is much more annoying because it’s an everything store, it’s money that has to be used unethically. A costco giftcard is a nice hack to allow you to shop at the store without a membership, I used them like that until I reached a point where the membership paid for itself. I think they have a place, I also think they are often abused and should be regulated more than they currently are where I live. If they have an expiry they are a scam.
The state I live in, they are also illegal to expire. The problem is that companies blatantly break the law with zero consequences.
If you try to use an expired card, it will automatically decline, and an employee physically cannot override it. To use your money you have to go online and submit a complaint/ticket to customer support. Good fucking luck getting a response.
The only way after that is to threaten to sue, or sue. Sueing can cost thousands if not tens of thousands of dollars, which is completely ridiculous and why nobody does it. Thats why even though many states outlaw expiring giftcards, most of them still have expiration dates in blatant violation.
Got it. You need a gift card to a lawyer.
