• NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
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    Because the two candidtaes are competing for shittiest candidate (to their constituency, not in absolute terms) and canceling each other’s shittiness.

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    Maybe the fact that every time Kamala says she wants to appoint Republicans to her cabinet and sign Republican immigration policies into law she slides in the polls a bit should tell us something

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    Because the conditions required for fascism to take root have been incubating for decades.

    Massive wealth inequality, insecure employment, non-existent labor laws and worker’s rights, hollowed-out education, healthcare and social services, large corporations getting to write their own laws verbatim, political parties sucking dick for their donors, endless war ensuring unlimited money for the military-industrial complex, demonization of brown-people-of-the-week, fetishization of ‘the troops’ and ongoing acceptance of brutality.

    People are poor, desperate, ignorant, exploited and forgotten, they’re shown every day that killing the shit out of outsiders is the solution to all the country’s problems, anyone pushing actual progressive ideals is shut down and demonized as a threat to the profits of the 0.1%, giving people a choice between rightwing bastardry and neoliberal bastardry as their only lens through which to see the world.

    Give that the opportunity to flare up and of course it’s fucking going to. The republicans want it, the dems do nothing to prevent it.

    It’s like watching a party get the wrong kind of rowdy all night, you keep supplying drinks regardless, then you wonder why it turns into a fight, oh no how could this ever happen?

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    What really gets me is I’ve had people on the Right tell me about the illegal immigrant problem and about how they do all these crimes. Then when I trap them with the obvious, “Trump is felon though” argument I always get, “Oh he’s different.” alongside the usual conspiracy theories. These are just the bad actors.

    So thinking about it, what’s even worse are the people who are supporting Trump as reactionary supporters. All they know is they’re angry and the Democrats are the ones who always talk about change. So time to vote for not them for reasons they can never explain.

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    It may not be. Polling has been off lately, especially “polling without a specific name attached”.

    OTOH, lots of people vote for party not the person.

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    Has any incumbent government coming out of covid/inflation survived? It’s not an excuse but people tend to focus on that which affects them personally, otherwise sweatshop clothes wouldn’t exist.

    And the Left wing media ecosystem has spent the last decade decrying sp much as sexist, racist or fascist that independents etc have largely tuned it out.

    Breaks my heart but that’s where we are.

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      *Easy answers *Lack of self-reflection (“are we the badies?”) *reflexive reactionary impulse (“I say throw the bums out!”) when external pressures make life tough

      I’ve got many people in my life who would fit one or more of these generalizations. I’m sure it’s a vast tapestry.

      My mom got hissing mad when one of her friends told her that WalMart wasn’t a good place to be shopping. That was 20 years ago.

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      And the Left wing media ecosystem has spent the last decade decrying sp much as sexist, racist or fascist

      I dunno about that. What I’ve found, being online, is a lot of people being sexist, racist or fascist.

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        I think if you’ve found the majority of people being fascist, that’s a you conflating disagreement or supporting trump with fascism.

        Which is easy, fun but intellectually lazy and kinda how we got to where we are.

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          I think if you’ve found the majority

          That’s not what ‘a lot’ means, unless you’re reading a different dictionary to me?

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            If it’s not the majority or close to it, then it’s probably not why the election is close (which is, if you’ll remember, the question of the original post.)

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              You’re not very good at holding a conversation. I’ll leave you to complaining about the media inventing sexism, racism and fascism. Maybe you will be excited to find out how fascist Americans can be when Trump fans harass voters as this election comes to a close. Or maybe you will start talking about how the media is inventing it.

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                I’ll leave you to complaining about the media inventing sexism, racism and fascism.

                No one said this but I’m cool ending this interaction.

                As a self growth thing though, I do strongly suggest trying to make a friend who votes differently. It can be frustrating but it helps you understand that there are in fact people who disgagree with you and gasp aren’t racist/sexist/fascist.

                (“But they’re voting for one!” "And your sweatshop clothes are the physical embodiement of sexism/racism/colonialism, are you also a write off as a person?)

                Cheers.

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    Some of it is people who read none of the stuff we are. They are heads down, working, etc, just glancing at headlines.

    They know one thing: prices were better under trump.

    They don’t know one thing: what inflation is. They think if inflation goes down then prices go down.

    In short: they think if they vote for trump, prices will go back to 2016-2020.

    That’s it. That is why. Prices never go back, and trumps plans for working class will make life even worse, but they still think he’ll bring 2016-2020 prices back with him.

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    lies, hatred, and illegal behavior have resulted in zero consequence because people are afraid of hurting GOP’s sensitive fee fees, so now a rapist convicted felon con man might be dictator next week

    where are all the “we need to respect their viewpoint!!” people now?

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    Same answer it’s been for my whole lifetime: a small number of extremely wealthy individuals pumping a constant stream of money into conservative media with the express purpose of changing public opinion.

    People who’ve been listening to this stuff their entire lives don’t live in the real world. They legitimately don’t believe in reality, and after a certain point I’m not sure it’s possible to bring them back. Much like climate change, this kind of thing should’ve been stopped at the source decades ago, and it might just be too late now.