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    The fact that will even entertain this and other anti-scientific consensus bullshit in the conversation is the poison in the well.

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    Raw milk is totally safe…if the cow is totally healthy and if there aren’t pathogens floating around the cow.

    I mean, my friend next door used to drink off the cows’s teats. His Mom would scold him for it, but he did it to show off. We used to milk their three “city cows”. Literally the cows would sleep in their garage and then walk to pasture on an every day basis. They would get milked every morning and we would walk to their house and buy a couple of liters from them. Sometimes cheese or bulgaros yogurt.

    Everyone loved the cows. They smelled like cows but you could safely pet them and not expect feces on your hands.

    The cows we get milk from are all rolling around in feces in confined space and they eat dry moldy feed. Like that stuff is total animal abuse and prone to end up giving someone a cow Bourne disease of some kind.

    My neighbors also had pigs and we had pigs. That is why we never ate pig… cows are clean compared to pigs. Pigs will eat bugs smeared in pig feces. That is not normal really because pigs in the wild, although dirty, do not just swim in their feces like captive pigs do. If you ever want to go vegan for whatever reason, visit a captive pig farm. Learn that smell…then go to the butcher shop’s trash bin and learn that smell…then realize that when you get your meat in your fridge, the death smell is what you’re smelling. Makes me wanna puke 🤮 just thinking about it. And if your neighbors ever killed a pig, you would know it. Pigs don’t go down easy. That’s one positive thing I can definitely say about pigs. They know you’re gonna kill them and they scream like anyone would…as in a person. It churns you inside out hearing that scream and then when it stops you know it happened. Pigs don’t go down quietly.

    Anyway don’t eat animals, but if you’re gonna eat milk or dairy, make sure it’s pasteurized! Any well understood retarded person like myself could agree 💯👍.

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      Yeah the state of factory dairy’s… You want that shit pasteurized. Feces everywhere. Cows have all kinds of diseases. Filthy environment. It all gets killed or deactivated by pasturing.

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        So do you think Trump will improve or worsen animal-welfare protections in agriculture? Which policy will let bad actors make a quick buck at the expense of the rest of us?

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          I can’t imagine it’s going to be any better. I’m not sure I even find US/Can doing enough as is.

          When we have a disease like bird flu roll through our herds, it seems like we just throw up our hands and say “oh well pasturing deactivates it”

          But you still have a sick cow, even if they aren’t obviously symptomatic. They will produce less, treatments for other stuff will be less effective, they will be less healthy. And at the scale of most farms, all that has an effect. It just gradually makes things harder for farmers.

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          He signed a law against very specific animal torture of pets (don’t look it up) in his first term. He also signed a very specific law for increasing the speed of pig slaughter lines IIRC. So no. Livestock animals will be even more fucked (if that’s even possible in the US) as he is in the hands of big animal ag. He loves his farmers in Iowa as he said recently. Now is the best time to look up how to go vegan. Or the worst considering the drop in availability of alternative meat products that’s about to come. Remember if you don’t pay for it animal ag has to consider their practices. A big producer of meat products in Germany (Rügenwalder)has a lot of its productline switched to plant based in the last years because of the demand.

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      Same friend got in trouble for shooting milk from the cow onto incoming city traffic in front of his house. All this as pre-teen kids ofcourse. You wouldn’t find a self respecting adult…yes you probably would.

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      Raw milk is totally safe…if the cow is totally healthy and if there aren’t pathogens floating around the cow.

      Yeah, we’ll just make sure that the cows are healthy using the USDA’s regulatory capabilities. After Trump fires all of the career experts and replaces them with sycophants. What could go wrong.

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    It’s such a shame that so many of his health propositions have small bits of truth associated with them, yet because he lacks the true in depth look at a given topic he falls short of an overall good view. Listening to him talk about scientific research on Rogan was fucking excruciating.

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    I just hope they have the raw milk distribution set up to go live nationwide at the same time. I want all the people excited for this to get it, and enjoy it for as long as possible before the news gets to them.

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      Unpasteurised milk drank at cow temperature ‘can’ be fine - depending on the cow, milker and drinker. It’s ludicrous to even suggest it could be safely distributed nationally in the US. He’s an absolute lunatic - and so is anyone who buys it.

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          By “farm sales” do you mean from a small herd kept by an actual farmer who is geographically close to the purchaser; as opposed to buying from either an industrial creamery and/or factory farm?

          Milk, by its very nature, has some risk involved in its consumption… but from udder to mouth it’s not exactly akin to Russian roulette / certain death as some are claiming.

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        At first I thought this might be fine because the idiots are doing it to themselves. Then I remembered many of the idiots also are parents.

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          I know. It’s, potentially, an absolute tragedy. These (adult) people are so confident / smug in avoiding the “woke virus” that they seem to have forgotten that it’s the real viruses and pathogens that take us out. In droves. Throughout history. Again and again.

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          my parents raised us drinking raw milk from a farm down the road. I’m so glad nothing bad happened to me.

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    At least it isn’t a contagion no? Like it’s only the ones who drink it raw who are at risk. If so, have at it conservatives, drink all the bleach and raw milk you want

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      Nope it’s the worst time in history to advise raw milk. Millions of wild life birds and livestock is dying around the world right now because of H5N1. Human cases (allegedly mild) are ramping up already although they don’t know/say if they are human to human transmissions. IIRC the CDC found viral material in raw milk and strongly advised to only drink pasteurized mild.

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    Alex Jones will now be replaced by this idiot fuckwad. Buckle up for the crazy!

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    Today’s Republican Party didn’t get into their position of awesome power by listening to experts

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      “I think, the people of this country have had of experts” - Michael Gove, (during UK brexit campaign)