So, he and his cabinet will be working 8 hours a day at least 5 days a week in DC ? Can we get that in written please ?
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Maybe not in DC, but don’t underestimate how many hours most of these psychopaths actually work. They do come to work (maybe not in DC, but to some office somewhere) and work for 100 hours a week, because they place no value on anything other than work. You can fault them for many things, but billionaires are almost always true psychopaths with no concept of anything beyond working to achieve power.
Trump is a different story. He’ll say the golf course is his office, where he makes his deals.
Disagree. When you look at their schedules a lot of work hours are actually like lunch meetings or golf trips or whatever they need to do to justify networking without actual work.
I remember my last job, I would have to take days off for sick days, or half days for the Dentists. My boss however would send out emails like “Hey I am going out of town to Palm Springs, I’ll be there for 3 weeks, I will be available for phone from the golf course so I am really only taking 2 days of PTO”
You can fault them for many things, but billionaires are almost always true psychopaths with no concept of anything beyond working to achieve power.
I can definitely fault them for that
Their work is a lot different than the work we do. (it’s not harder)
There’s no way Musk “works” 100 hours a week. How do you think he’s found all this time to spend with his new bestie Donald? By all accounts the guy spends a significant amount of his time playing video games and on Twitter. His “work” is lunch meetings and zoom calls with the board where he just spitballs a bunch of nonsense.
Then they aren’t really about efficiency, are they? When properly set up, WFH for office work is very effective and efficient.
But think of the billions of dollars of now unused office space. That’s horrible for real estate pricing, which is where many of these fucks are invested.
And billions of barrels of oil no longer being used and going to waste from all the travel not happening and extra heat needed.
It’s not even a real estate issue sometimes. I worked in an office in an industrial facility- printing custom boxes. Everyone in an office job was on a hybrid schedule. No one’s job required them to be at the office. All conversations were by Slack, all meetings were by Zoom even if we were all in the office. They could have knocked down the office space and put in at least two more industrial printers. Considering how backed up we got around Christmas, that would have helped them.
Some of this is just old assholes who think people need to be in the office all the time so they can watch them or something. I don’t know.
At least they didn’t make me wear a tie.
My last job was highly similar. It honestly would have been more tolerable (the stress) if I’d just been able to work from home… I mean it’s not the sort of job you could pretend to do if not being monitored, it was metric-driven and triggered by customer contact… so what’s the point?
They said “we want to foster communication so having people in the office does that!” Umm my department is the only one in the company that is chained to our desk…? We can’t get up because we have to be available for contacts… and when people come by to talk to us, it’s usually a bad thing because they are interrupting actual real work. To top it off, our cube cell thing was right next to the door where everyone hung out waiting for each other to go to lunch, and because we were the only department that did external contact, they didn’t even think to shut the fuck up.
I’ll never willingly work in an office again. Not just because my disability makes commuting difficult sometimes, but because the environment is just -bad-.
Yeah, it’s miserable. I wasn’t kidding about the tie part either. Pretty much the only thing I liked about that job is that no one cared if I showed up in a T-shirt and sweatpants.
Dude, that’s been every job for 40 years.
It absolutely hasn’t from my own personal experience. Maybe it’s the industry you’re in, but I’m amazed you haven’t at least seen things like people on their lunch breaks outside or in a restaurant or whatever wearing a tie.
Agreed 100%. I used to work a hybrid schedule and I was much more efficient when I was at home and could be both relaxed and not distracted or annoyed by coworkers.
they already said it themselves: “Requiring federal employees to come to the office five days a week would result in a wave of voluntary terminations that we welcome” so no, it was never about efficiency. at all.
Don’t you love when someone from outside talks big shit pretending to know what YOUR job is and determining its not needed?
Almost like firing people based on code written didn’t backfire last time…
Read Project 2025, the plan is to get rid of federal employees and replace them with Trump loyalists.
Efficient for whom? The rich all have millions invested in commercial real estate so if it’s not about voluntary resignations it’s about that.
They are about more efficiency in enriching themselves. Forcing people back into inefficient office-based work is just a tool to fire huge chunks of them while filtering for those easier exploited.
“iT’s Up To ThE sTaTes!!!1!”
god I fucking hate these people. Pure fucking hatred.
“The Deep State appreciates your hard work, know how, and dedication. Come work for us from home and help stymie the Shallow State”
So they’ll be coming in every day to their offices in Washington right?
…right?
It’s interesting they have multiple offices. Offices they’re already not in. If there was a time for a general strike it is forever ago.
A people elected government has a mandate to protect its people. Its real frightening to see that instead it announces adopt the worst business practises of private economy.
Imma be real… this isn’t even a GOP vs DNC thing, the government has always fucking haaaaated telework, especially since Covid let the genie out of the bottle.
It’s still going to be handled significantly worse than the DNC would though.
You got to love this. The Pentagon just failed its 7th audit in a row. It has a budget of $1tr. And yet the cost savings team decides that penny pinching by making life harder for workers is where the real savings are to be found. Not the giant black hole of finance which is the military industrial complex.
Noooo shhhhh, we’re not supposed to talk about HOW THE PENTAGON HAS NEVER PASSED AN AUDIT. We’re supposed to be talking about the border, come on people, get it together.
How is working in the office saving the pentagon money?
Lol, how fast would he get merked for suggesting we cut Pentagon budget
You’ve gotta look at it from the perspective of a poor multibillionaire who desperately needs to buy his fifth superyatch so he can work his five CEO jobs remotely
Back to the grind slaves. /S
Why the /s? They’re not being sarcastic and you’re just quoting them.
Fuck you both
I contract for uscis. It’s fully distributed, there’s no way to enforce this without crippling the agency. So it would hobble the mass deportation plan. Very curious how this might turn out
Since they’re both just mouthing off about things they have zero understanding of, based on an over-inflated sense of their own knowledge and competence, this will probably turn out about like most things Trump has tried to do. It’ll either go nowhere and they’ll just stop speaking of it, or they’ll try to force something through and make a mess that someone else will have to clean up.
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Plus trump said their report will be due on July 4, 2026. How much cutting can they actually due before his term ends? Will they even start mass firing before mid terms?
Anyone wanna bet on how many days Trump is at Mar-a-Lago during his presidency?
Honestly, I’ll be surprised if he spends more than a few days at the White House.
Probably better for the whitehouse staff, easier to work around him and his gaggle of sub-humans, cant exactly demand folks do something as easily if he aint there.
Remember when he complained about how many days of vacation Obama took, then took more than that in half as many years?
I too want to work from the golf course.
why federal employees and not the private sector? oh right you want to fire half of the first group.
Well, also how would they mandate that for private companies?
well it is enough for Elon to suggest it. that is the kind of presidency they will be running as is obvious from Disney, IBM etc going back to advertising with Xitter
Most CEOs are the worst kind of trump bootlickers. And musk too. My last job, CEO thought musk was a genius and had a list of his “rules for business” laminated on his desk.
Ew, not to kink shame, but getting off on Musk and Business at the same time should be illegal
That’s the thing which makes it all funny, RTO in the private sector was a failure.
Sure some people went back cause they were forced to, but offering remote work for new positions is very popular now.
Companies have power over their current employees but not the new ones. So the industry is becoming more remote friendly overall as salty CEOs cling on to their smaller and smaller workforce of in office loyalists.
We owe commercial real estate investors exactly jacksh’t. This is, at least in part, about securing income for commercial landlords. Their “jobs” aren’t any more precious than anyone else’s jobs that are being impacted hard by this changing era. If they would like to fill their buildings, they can fork over some cash to convert parts of them to housing.
Not landlords. About securing investments in commercial real estate.
Which given its traditional status as a rock solid baseline for investors, its not at all surprising that two rich fuckers are pushing hard to shore up commercial real estate. It probably makes a significant part of their investments.