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    We can’t let the media take the narrative back and let them do a smear campaign on this person who might not even be the shooter. He’s a suspect.

    This ceo shooting broke the proverbial spell where what the population was actually saying wasn’t being guided or swayed by the news.

    We need to keep the steam up on the media pushback. All those savage, snarky comments and memes left on every news article, fb post, tweet… they got overwhelmed by us. That needs to keep happening so they can’t go back to distracting and brainwashing people with fear and politics while they scapegoat this guy and try to make an example of him to the rest of us plebs.

    They already tried to distract us with aliens and Diddy because people won’t stop saying how much they hate insurance companies. Keep voicing your discontent where ever they leave an open comment box. Please do it. Not only is it cathartic, but it upsets the oligarchs and everytime you upset an oligarch someone’s insurance is less likely to deny their claim.

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    there’s no way this is the guy. if he gets convicted it’ll be because cops and DAs want the case closed at all costs because it’s so high profile.

    welp seems like this is him

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    These companies don’t care about you, or your kids, or your grandkids. They have zero qualms about burning down the planet for a buck, so why should we have any qualms about burning them down to survive?

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    ITT: a bunch of lemmings who apparently aren’t big fans of law and order.

    You make any society worse, you asshats.

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    Bruh you burn that shit the moment you’re in the clear. Even your average armchair revolutionary knows that.

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    The suspect was at a McDonald’s in Altoona, Pennsylvania and was recognized by an employee who then called local police.

    I’m accusing parallel construction. The released photos have so little detail that there must be a hundred thousand Americans that match their appearance.

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      To be fair, the video of the shooter had the upper half of his face.

      And the guy they arrested has the upper half of his face.

      Although I have the upper half of my face.

      Do you have the upper half of your face? If not we can probably rule you out.

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      Someone did their Snowden reading:

      Parallel construction is a law enforcement process of building a parallel, or separate, evidentiary basis for a criminal investigation in order to limit disclosure as to the origins of an investigation.

      In the US, a particular form is evidence laundering, where one police officer obtains evidence via means that are in violation of the Fourth Amendment

      De facto illegal and shady as hell, but in use when the (feds especially) want to catch someone, typically via warrantless SIGINT mass surveillance. They’ll do the investigation using dragnets and broad searches through metadata and other means that are illegal and inadmissible in court, then an incredibly convenient cop/witness/informant will appear with information that permits an arrest/search under permissible means - under the hope that the suspect has incriminating evidence.

      This is wayyy too convenient to get him, with all the evidence on hand, from a ‘concerned citizen’. We live in a police state, that serves the ruling and moneyed class.

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    These companies don’t care about you, or your kids, or your grandkids. They have zero qualms about burning down the planet for a buck, so why should we have any qualms about burning them down to survive?

    We’re animals just like everything else on this planet, except we’ve forgotten the law of the jungle and bend over for our overlords when any other animal would recognize the threat and fight to the death for their survival. “Violence never solved anything” is a statement uttered by cowards and predators.

    (Quote from a book review made by the suspect)

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    You’re telling me the same guy who was proclaimed some kind of modern ninja-spy-assassin-genius on the back of his work in NYC was just stupidly waltzing around Altoona carrying an illegal ghost gun?

    Doubt.

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      Personally think he underestimated the target this would paint on his back. Either that or he knew and was expecting to be caught.

      That’s the trouble with heroes becoming actual people and likely why media is covering who he is. Instead of being an unknowable symbol of defiance, we now have to grapple with the fact that he is human.

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        Assuming the latter given he apparently didn’t ditch the gun, clothing, and had a manifesto. Especially so if it’s true the gun was 3d printed, that would’ve been much easier to dispose of than an actual gun. Dudes had days and is in an area where they have easy cover to burn all of those things

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        In the modern surveillance state, it’s hard to get away with this kind of thing. In a matter of hours, they had a partial photo, the hostel where he was staying, the ID he used, and the taxi he took.

        Granted, some of this was probably from people reporting him after seeing his picture on the news.

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          Yeah after something like this you go back to your place off the grid for a while. Certainly not some medium sized town guaranteed to have desperate boot lickers. That kid just made 60k if the arrest turns out to be legitimate.

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          There’s still no reason he should have had any of those bits of evidence still on his person though if he didn’t want to get caught.

          My “I’d like it to be true” theory is that the guy is terminally ill anyhow, and escape vs. get caught later and have a platform due to the trial vs. be killed at the scene were all equally acceptable outcomes to him.

          Hence the very meticulous planning and clear proficiency with the required steps to do the killing, yet (intentional?) sloppy drop of the phone and water bottle, plus exposure of his face, and continuing to carry every bit of the evidence they could hope to find on him days later.

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      It’s possible that the myth grew out of proportion to the reality because we all got a bit caught up in the romance of the thing…

      Though, like, I’d still absolutely hit that. Cut myself on those cheekbones, goddamn.

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      Hate to wonder whether the widespread public exoneration could lead folks heroes to get lazy or even take for granted that “the people” universally love them and would never turn them in.

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      Why would he be carrying all of the evidence including handwritten motives, the same fake ID and firearm with him to McDonald’s after days of being on the run? If he really wanted a ghost firearm, he could have had a second one that fired another caliber. Why would he still be wearing a face mask to make him look exactly like the pictures that were released and triggering people to think of him?

      Either this guy wanted to get caught, or we’re not getting the full story.

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    He made it all the way to middle-of-nowhere PA, but he was still carrying all the evidence on him? Sounds like they found Spartacus

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    This is what happens when you pay people minimum wage with shitty benefits. Those folks are looking for a quick buck and the informant will mostly likely receive $50k.