What are the opinions you’ve heard from people you’ve met in real life? I know the internet seems to have consensus, but the internet is not always representative of the real world.
What are the opinions of Luigi in your:
Family? Relatives? Friends? Coworkers/Classmates? People in your area?
I don’t really want to discuss this IRL since I’m a bit paranoid of mass surveillance and getting my voice recorded saying anything anti-establishment could put a target on my back, especially with the incoming US administration, so I’d rather not. (I know, I’m paranoid)
(Edit: Also, I don’t want a future employer somehow getting a recording of me glorifying a CEO’s death)
The only people IRL I’ve heard from are my parents who basically read propaganda from Wechat that just portrays Luigi as some crazy person, but, then again, my parents are also Pro-CCP idiots and hates Democrats for the “migrant crisis”, so that seems to be a trend for their beliefs: just parotting what Wechat says.
I can’t say I’m surprised it happened. I’m kinda surprised it didn’t happen sooner considering some of the games companies can play and the emotions involved when trying to care for loved ones. The timing sucks because the kids who had nothing to do with the business won’t have another Christmas without thinking of the time they had to bury their dad.
I’m glad that of all the options the shooter chose to be about as surgical as they could be. Better to target one heavily involved person than a mass shooting at a hospital, office etc where most people have nothing to do with big picture decision making.
Now I’m concerned about copycats that won’t be as considerate and kneejerk legal repercussions since I enjoy the 2nd amendment and use suppressors often. I think this is the first real crime I’ve heard of with a suppressor used. Nobody I know wants to see this be a regular thing but hopes this will be a wake up call higher ups need to change their practices.
Oof, I was not going to share my thoughts on this but: my first thought when I saw the smiling footage was that it had to be a cute psychopath, I don’t think most people could smile while they planned to kill anyone, and I was glad that if he was a weapon at least he was aimed correctly. I wouldn’t say my impression has changed.
My gay coworker said, and I quote “ooh, hello handsome!”
Nobody I’ve talked to has been able to dredge up any sympathy for the victim, like literally nobody of any class or inclination. All feel he killed for profit, live by the sword, die by the sword. That is separate from any feelings about the killer or vigilante justice in general.
I don’t think most people could smile while they planned to kill anyone
That’s ridiculous. Plenty of people smile while bringing a live turkey back home from a farmer’s market the day before Thanksgiving.
Anyone can become okay with killing if they’re trained to see the target as undeserving of life. Sometimes it’s because they see the target as less than human. Sometimes it’s because they see the target as evil. But anyone can smile while taking a life if they think they have a good reason.
I’ve never heard of anyone getting a live turkey in the US. Where do you live where people do that?
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Guess it happens less often in the city these days. Drag thought everyone knew about it.
If you look at it at the individual level, of course it’s a tragedy.
At the systematic level though, big change historically almost always includes death, and at the end people everywhere celebrate the successful revolution with very little thought to those sacrificed to get it.
Why is it a tragedy?
Or do you mean Luigi getting caught?
A person killing another person. People will mourn him. I guarantee someone is crying over this, a child, a parent, a lover. If you can’t see that side of it at all you need to take a step back and think about your humanity.
But as a system… It’s a different story. Sometimes things have to break before change happens, and afterward, people are likely to just think about it in terms of a beneficial change, not the people who didn’t survive the conflict.
an event causing great suffering, destruction, and distress, such as a serious accident, crime, or natural catastrophe
Doesn’t fit the bill
Also didn’t he cheat on his wife a bunch? We don’t know his kids don’t hate his guts.
could put a target on my back
I know, I’m paranoid
It does not mean that you are paranoid. It just means that you are vastly overestimating your own importance.
Its not really “overestimating importance”
Cops gun down people all the time and never ger punished. Those people weren’t “important” to the system, they just become another statistic.
They’ll send cops to “investigate” you, then find an excuse to shoot you then claim “they feared their life”.
Yeah but statistically running your mouth to your friends is very unlikely to out you in sequence of events where cops are shooting at you.
With that being said, there is a chance Luigin ain’t the adjuster
And they deff using his socials to pin the life claim denial on him.
Barley a discussion. The Dodgers winning had a bigger social stir.
My family had a jolly laugh about that CEO. Several of them have worked with mental health patients and elders and hate the entire health insurance industry, my brother works for cooperate types and as a result has zero sympathy for corporate types and we share memes about it. Whatever other beliefs Luigi may have, he did us all a solid, so he’s ok in our book.
I don’t really want to discuss this IRL since I’m a bit paranoid of mass surveillance and getting my voice recorded saying anything anti-establishment could put a target on my back, especially with the incoming US administration, so I’d rather not. (I know, I’m paranoid)
You are a victim of a psyop but you also ain’t wrong. They don’t want people talking freely about topics like this. Critical thinking will expose the PT tricks for what they are.
Plebs not talking is what the want. Consume this new slop peasants!
Daddy knows best.
Oh I definitely will talk, but just not in a workplace or in university, or in a coffeeshop with people walking by.
Smart
This would not have happened if company leaders implemented a “don’t be a dick” style of operation.
They would have made a bit less money, sure, but at the level they operate at, they are just working the highscore anyway, so earnings are effectively meaningless to them, their standard of living won’t increase much by exploiting their customer even further.
They all enshittify. That’s how it goes in pursuit of The Bottom Line. Once you’re established and run out of room to innovate or grow in your market space, you then start squeezing employees, product quality, and customers for more money to keep the shareholders happy.
One of the most infamous examples of literally saying “Don’t Be Evil” as a company motto used by Google, they turned to shit just like all the rest.
As a person living in Scotland I was initially perplexed why this was even a story. I mean, isn’t this what Americans do? Shoot each other all the time?
If the guy that was shot was a bum living out of a dumpster at the back of McDonald’s would this even be a story? And therein lies my initial naivety: this was a CEO of a company ranked 8th on the 2024 Fortune Global 500, and therefore a very important person indeed apparently.
Money talks and bullshit walks I guess.
As for the shooter, I haven’t really been following the story, but I guess he was someone who got fucked over by the health insurance company.
To me this is just box standard America: people shooting each other, fat folk eating too much, car chases, wars everywhere, idiots for presidents, corrupt companies. The kind of stuff that’s in every Hollywood movie.
As an outsider looking in, it’s kind of sad yet fascinating watching the most powerful country in the world fall apart.
To me this is just box standard America: people shooting each other, fat folk eating too much, car chases, wars everywhere, idiots for presidents, corrupt companies. The kind of stuff that’s in every Hollywood movie.
What a reductionist take.
Wait until you see what Americans think about the rest of the world. If they bother to at all.
Not the gotcha you think it is.
I was offended at first glance, but then remembered that there were two shootings at my old apartment, and I have a cop friend of a friend that regularly posts dashcam footage from his car chase of the week in the discord. I’m also kinda fat, so the rest seems to check out.
I haven’t talked about it very much with people off line, but when I have no one has had anything sympathetic to say about the victim or unsympathetic to say about the alleged assassin. The women I’ve discussed the case with agree that this Luigi guy is handsome. Idk fellas, I hate to do him like this, but we might be better off if he stays locked up.
So you are assuming that Luigi is the Adjuster or are you trusting the current media blitz?
Lol I don’t know what you mean by “the Adjuster” and the main-est-stream news media I regularly listen to is Democracy Now!, so I didn’t know that a narrative is being blitzed. I’ve read some posts suggesting that it’s all a plot to cover up insider trading, but that idea seems a little too complicated and unlikely.
I don’t really want to discuss this IRL since I’m a bit paranoid of mass surveillance and getting my voice recorded saying anything anti-establishment could put a target on my back
Wait till you find out the CIA can read…
Shouldnt they be reading Russian and Chinese socials…
NSA doing domestic socials?
Eh, plausible deniability. A IRL voice recording is more incriminating than a pseudo-anonymous internet post.
… said the prosecutor reading the defendent’s online statements to the court.
“I didn’t post that, must’ve been malware” is more believable than “They deepfaked my voice”, especially when there were real witnesses.
Besides, they have to do some network traffic deanonymizing, to do. As long as you dont make explicit threats, they don’t have time to track every internet post.
Edit: Also, not just legal harassment, but any employer hearing your recorded voice of trashing CEOs, especially of glorifying the death of CEOs, are not gonna hire you. Might wanna be careful if you wanna have a job in the future.
My friend works for an insurance company. He is very ready to make jokes about it but he was involved in a meeting with the higher-ups and he said they seemed genuinely worried, as you’d expect I suppose, and had to bite his tongue.
Chad.
Remember people you ain’t got to drink the koolaid if you are working in such environments
Tell “Leadership” what you need but keep independent thinking. They don’t pay enough to control your opinions IMHO
I’m coming off of two years (and change) of daily, debilitating pain. I’m just now starting to get used to moving around on the regular again, and trying to get back into a shape that isn’t “round.” As a consequence of this, I also don’t have a job. During those two years, I spent more than seven months collecting doctor’s reports and paperwork to get coverage for the medications prescribed… In Canada! The stuff that was covered here would have absolutely bankrupted me in the US. (Yes, I got declined.)
No comment.
Anyone in my circles who’s had to fully interact with our US healthcare has, at minimum, said they understand the motive.
I haven’t really heard anyone talking about it IRL, but that’s not a very big sample size.
I’m a bit reticent, because I don’t know who around me will be cool with me flat out saying this should be a case of jury nullification. The ceo had it coming, and if you think political violence is bad, why are you cool with the insurance ghoul committing social murder? If anything, this is an act of self defense
Yeah, I imagine there are quite a few people that would be disturbed by that.
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if you think political violence is bad, why are you cool with the insurance ghoul committing social murder?
Those aren’t exclusive positions though.
What the American healthcare system does to people is awful and should be changed. No question at all.
That doesn’t make it ok IMO for someone to just go out and murder someone else.
The more people normalise and even praise this sort of thing, the worse, and more dangerous, society is going to get IMO.
I realise that’s not the popular view, but there it is.
I do agree with you that it will make things more dangerous, but I don’t know what to expect. The mere existence of billionaires is violence on the working class. We are getting squeezed, so those at the top can add just a bit more to their hoards. I should be food safe, and have shelter the next 4 years, but if my wife or I lose our job that could change quickly. And we are gently well off with a decent support system. Most of my countrymen are in more precarious of a position. I think this is the natural consequence of our economic system. Regulations removed, social programs removed, wages stagnant, and more and more is wrung out of people. Their basic needs are neglected, they’re left in pain, and left to die because that gives the shareholders a few percent more. This is violence against us, though legal and given the veneer of civility. Its starting to feel like nonviolent avenues are no longer viable, so then we get this
Yeah, agree with all that, and something like this does have a feeling of inevitability about it.
I just feel concerned by the hero worship of this guy, it’s kind of disturbing to me.
