Yippee Kay Yay… (The only movie that doesn’t depresses me in Xmas)

  • AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space
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    5 days ago

    No, we agree that “Die Hard is a Christmas movie” is a fun proposition to entertain, either because it’s edgy and freaks the mundanes with its audacious disregard for cherished norms, or (more recently) because it’s a fun meme, with own line of commercially available ugly Christmas sweaters and knowingly ironic greeting cards. Though the meme eventually will become so overexposed that quoting from Die Hard on Christmas will become as basic and mid as dressing up in a Santa costume and drunkenly making an arse of yourself with several hundred similarly attired dudes.

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      4 days ago

      While I agree that people shouting about it being a Christmas movie is annoying, it definitely is a Christmas movie. It has all the trappings of a Christmas movie and Christmas music is in the score.

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      It is literally set at a christmas party. Without christmas, that movie doesnt happen

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        Everyone keeps saying that, but it could be a random party. It’s not particularly important that the party is Christmas, the company could be having an Easter celebration or even just a random party for a specific milestone for the company. As far as I remember, there’s nothing particular about being Christmas other than the decorations.

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          “If Elf was about a human raised by bunnies and then Buddy helped a family learn the true meaning of Easter it would be an Easter movie! So Elf isn’t a Christmas movie.”

          That’s what this argument sounds like to me. You’re hyper focusing on one tiny element of the story. Yes, there are not many Christmas parts, but taken together they are sufficient to make a Christmas movie. If the party wasn’t Christmas themed you’d still have Christmas themed misic and a movie about a man trying to fix his family (super common Christmas trope).

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          Thats a pretty thin argument. “If you replace this part of the movie, it could be completely different!”

          Is home alone not a christmas movie because they also could have taken any vacation and left their kid at home?

          • Nibodhika@lemmy.world
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            Home alone has to be set during Christmas, these are crucial parts of the plot:

            • The entire block travels at the same time
            • Houses have decorations, which are used as traps
            • Houses have lights that turn on at a specific time
            • It has to be set during winter

            So if you could have a different holiday during winter where lots of people decorate their houses to turn on lights at a specific time, then it wouldn’t necessarily be a Christmas movie. Otherwise you need to change crucial points of the plot.

            Other examples are Jingle all the way or Nightmare before Christmas you can’t change the Christmas theme in those movies. I mean, you can but you’ll end up with a very different movie. Whereas if you change Christmas on Die Hard for any other party event only the decoration changes, the plot of the movie would be essentially the same.

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        5 days ago

        That’s a glib technicality, but not sufficient to make it a “Christmas movie” in the usual sense. The Christmas party is a plot device, and could have been replaced with a different one without significantly altering the plot of the film.

    • Susaga@sh.itjust.works
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      It’s a movie about a man attending a Christmas party in order to patch things up with his wife and spend the holidays among his family. But the only way to do that, and to defeat the greedy villain, is to let go of their pride. And also there’s guns and stuff.

      It’s a Christmas movie in the same way Addams family is a wholesome family. They obviously are, and you only disagree if you’re unable to look past the surface.

  • jimmy90@lemmy.world
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    …melon farmer.

    heck yeah, it’s a christmas film. the whole thing is based around a christmas party and is all about love

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    Hell yeah! Of course, best Christmas movie ever. Multicasting it over the corporate network since last Monday and won’t kill the process before 2025!

    now i’ve got a machine gun ho ho ho!

    • Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world
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      I’d say they both have equal standing. Diehard couldn’t happen. If it wasn’t for the corporate Christmas party and Grimlin’s because of the poorly thought out, last minute Christmas gift.

  • ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one
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    5 days ago

    Gremlins is also a Christmas movie.

    So is Mortal Kombat from the 90s. It’s all about people fighting to be number 1. Just like Christmas shopping.

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    5 days ago

    It’s about a man at a Christmas party that has gone incredibly wrong. It’s a Christmas movie

  • Altima NEO@lemmy.zip
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    I mean if a movie like It’s A Wonderful Life can be a Christmas movie, despite most of it not having anything to do with Christmas, then so can Die Hard.