Right when he’s completely useless, he pushes for this. Pathetic and disingenuous.

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    You’re days away from the end of your entire run and now we grow morals.

    This is like those old racist folks on their death beds trying to make amends to anyone and everyone in their final days.

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      You just never looked into what they’re really doing, and for some reason media isn’t keen on reporting all the good proposals and legislations they were doing, I wonder why.
      This administration was the best one in centuries, both in terms of legislation and in terms of administrative work. The only question they aren’t good on is Palestine, and incidentally it’s the only thing that media suddenly cares about, I wonder why(2).

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        Oh come on, don’t give these sandbagging stooges more credit than they deserve. The only reason what you’re saying doesn’t sound quite as batshit insane as it should is that we haven’t had a government that prioritizes the working class even close to as much as the rich since WWII. Biden isn’t terrible compared to his peers but his peers have all been sucking the same corporate dick for so long that no one young enough to know what Lemmy is have ever experienced anything else. Calling that greatness is not being objective it’s just a lack of imagination.

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          It’s always important to thinglk about things in context and perspective. When I say best administration, I don’t compare it to the administrations of my hopes and dreams, that’s not useful at all. I compare it to what was before and what’s the possible alternatives.
          Oligarchs want you to lose perspective, hope, and stop doing actionable things. They want you to believe that unless the administration is doing luxury gay space communism, they are as bad as anything else and shouldn’t be supported. Don’t fall for it.

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          Believe it or not, for the amount of power they have, they are actually doing pretty good. We probably want them to ditch checks and balances and do good dictatorship for a moment to fix centuries of racist bullshit that permiated the US, but I am pretty sure it’s not realistic. I wish it wasn’t so, but the US is very, very racist country, and it reflects.

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            Believe it or not, for the amount of power they have, they are actually doing pretty good.

            …at moving right.

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        This administration was the best one in centuries

        Stop expecting progressives to buy this just because you love the slide to the right.

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        I largely agree but let’s not forget Afghanistan. Trump contributed but the Biden admin was elected to be the adults in the room and they looked totally disorganized and incompetent during that.

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          Afghanistan was disorganized and incompetent through Bush and Obama too. It was the classic American “let’s prop up a kleptocracy with American money, I’m sure that will be sustainable and not disintegrate immediately” story that we’ve been doing over and over and fucking over. Batista’s Cuba, South Vietnam, the Shah of Iran, Trujillo in the Dominican Republic, Duvalier in Haiti, Marcos in the Philippines. I’m sure it’ll work one of these fucking times.

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        The only thing they didn’t do good on was that one small genocide they enabled, hah oops lmao

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          It’s such a good thing there is an alternative that really, really great at stopping genocides. We are so happy that now those evil genocidal maniacs will be out of the office and there will be no genocides forever. They will finally stop pressing that genocide button that they have, which controls genocides.

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                s such a good thing there is an alternative that really, really great at stopping genocides.

                I read this as saying both sides (Republicans and Democrats) support genocide.

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                  I mean they do. Theyre different in a lot of ways, i wouldnt normally dare compare the two. But as evidenced by bidens administration and their ineptitude, they dont really care about genocides or the poor. Thats not to say theyre the same. One side doesnt care, the other is actively malicious.

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            Biden didn’t need to sell weapons to Netanyahu. Your “magic button’” shit trivializes what you’re glad Biden did to enable genocide for you.

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            This reads as sarcasm. Except its not so much a button that stops genocides, its… a different mechanism

            Edit: evidently this was not clear enough. The mechanism is not legal to mention.

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              Every genocide has to stop eventually. Otherwise it’s not a very effective genocide…

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              I am starting to believe that Americans trully believe there is a mechanism that starts and stops genocides and it’s located within reach of the American president. This notion is so fucking wild it’s impossible to believe y’all really totally thinking it, but it is jingoistic enough for me to start believing y’all are bathsit insane enough for it.

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                If the US stopped giving armaments and money to Israel once it became clear what they were doing and then followed up with actual punitive measures yes it would have stopped it. Israel is committing genocide with the approval of the US.

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                If every politician that supports genocide gets removed from office, the genocides stop. What a surprise.

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                  Do you also believe they have egg prices dial? Oh, by the way, you got your wish, the current administration will be removed from the office, if a genocide will not stop in February, will you eat your words and admit that you were wrong or not?

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                    Considering they can subsidize anything they want, kind of, yes. Why can’t we have a small temporary subsidy when the chickens get sick on a massive scale? Is that too logical?

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                    So, did you not read what I said? I said “all politicians that support genocides get removed, genocides stop”

                    If all politicians that support genocides get removed, and yet america is still somehow magically supporting genocide, yes, ill eat my words. Itd be real difficult to eat though, as that is fundamentally impossible.

                    Also comparing a genocide to egg prices is facetious and in bad faith. If you pull another strawman like that im going to assume you are a troll and stop engaging.

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      He’s talking about this now because he doesn’t have morals. If he gave a damn he’d have pushed and passed this within his first year. This is just him trying to get some headlines before he happily steps aside for the fascist to come in and reverse it.

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        He can’t pass anything he isn’t a legislator and this can’t be executive ordered

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          I said pushed, as in voiced it to the Democratic party to write legislation for it, and passed it if it got to him.

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            You can’t pass that with a simple majority.

            I agree they should not be able to trade stocks. I think the democrats are being rat bastards for participating in it too. But I also understand that Biden could not single handedly solve that nor was it remotely a high enough priority to burn political capital and fight his own party over it.

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              You can’t pass that with a simple majority.

              And here is where I explain to the feigned learned helplessness wing of the party that Democrats, if they had wanted to, could have done away with the filibuster forever with the simple majority we gave them. This could have been passed with a simple majority. You’re making excuses, and I’m not accepting them.

              But I also understand that Biden could not single handedly solve that nor was it remotely a high enough priority to burn political capital and fight his own party over it.

              Yeah. He can only singlehandedly sell weapons for genocide.

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                I’m not sure where you got the idea that 1) I didn’t think he was a major enabler of the horrific genocide of the Palestinian people or 2) that it is at all relevant. You’re just flinging shit at the wall and seeing what sticks now to paint me as some evil dem bootlicker because you’re behaving like a petulant child who doesn’t understand how government works. Fuck Biden and fuck Israel for the genocide they are committing. Happy? Is that the slam dunk you were hoping for?

                He can’t remove the filibuster. He can’t force legislation on Congress. He can’t executive order that kind of rule for Congress. The democrats and republicans in Congress have to end this practice. This is basic civics. He can vocalize it all he wants but he can’t make them do anything.

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                  If you want to tell me that I don’t know how government works, if you really want to pull that particular bit of hackneyed centrist gaslighting, don’t kick off the party with an excuse that fundamentally ignores how government works.

                  If you don’t want people to act like you’re carrying water for the Biden administration, don’t make excuses on their behalf that aren’t grounded in reality.

                  This could have been passed with a simple majority, contrary to your lie. There’s always some fucking excuse for how powerless Biden totally is when it’s something that centrists don’t want to do.

                  But he’s all powerful when it comes to shit they want more than keeping Trump out of office, which is why I brought up Netanyahu’s genocide. There’s no “we can’t! Here’s an excuse for why and gaslighting when you point out why that excuse holds no water” when it comes to genocide. Biden can just do it!

                  It’s the one policy that centrists don’t get in their own way and make flimsy excuses about. It’s the one policy that centrists won’t abandon it the first whiff of pushback.