• Aeri@lemmy.world
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    That makes it sound like the cat domesticated humanity not “The cat self domesticated itself”

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      in reality it sure as fuck seems like humanity domesticated humanity, we have a lot of domesticated features like neotony (we look strikingly like chimpanzee children) and we’re arguably the most ludicrously social species on earth.

      the ironic thing is that cats aren’t really very domesticated, they’re inherently a social animal and happen to just sorta fit with how humans work.

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          Neotony isn’t disputed to exist in humans, only the ultimate cause and extent is disputed.

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        I mean that sounds more like those are just traits we have and we made domesticated animals have similar traits to out own since presumably that makes us get along better.

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    I love all cats, and they are free to walk inside anytime they want. Just no fighting in the house.

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    Cats never domesticated themself, since ever they are specialists in domesticate humans, for commodity, not for need.

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      Spot on. Cats are the OG scientists who stuck around to see what they could make us do after they discovered monkeys gave good tummy rubs.

      Yadda-yadda, we industrialize food production and build awesome cozy dens to live in, yadda-yadda, they’re watching us burn the world like, “fascinating… now, can I make the monkey give me treats 2 minutes earlier than this time last week…”

      Only reason they don’t have us outright worshipping them is we tried it once or twice, but things got weird.

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    I went to disagree untill I remembered there’s a ginger cat that lives on my property that I feed sometimes

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      please don’t feed it unless you know for sure it’s homeless (there are paper bands you can hang around their necks on which you can put your info so that the owner can call you if it’s their cat). if the cat has a owner then you’re making the cat too fat, probably buying the wrong food which will give it liver disease, and being fed 2 different foods can cause bowel problems. Please stop.

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              Differences (well, stupid little faces, if I think in some dog types…)

              Dog - “oh, he gives me food, love, care and a house, he must be a god”

              Cat - “oh, he gives me food, love, care and a house, I must be a god”

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        Imma feed him when he comes in and screams at me everytime because I like him and he’s cool.

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        If the cat has an owner, that owner is letting them outside knowing the risks of eating what the cat isn’t supposed to, as well as killing what it isn’t supposed to.

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    They are funny, don’t really need a lot of space and training, and look pretty. Ofc I will go and by whatever.

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      There’s been a little baby girl coming around here, underweight, some kind of skin problem. She has always been an outside cat and belonged to my neighbor who died. My wife says we already have four so we can’t bring a street cat in that’s going to fight them.

      She’s right, but sometimes little girl comes up when I’m smoking and gets warm laying in my lap and I want to keep her so much.

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      Covert cat distribution network, working as intended.

      In my opinion cats should never be kept as singles. They need social interaction with another cat, even if they don’t like each other. It’s not as bad as guinea pigs who will literally die from depression if kept alone, but it’s similar.

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        I wouldn’t say “never” because, for me, it’s better to shelter them instead of leaving them outside. But yeah, ideally at least two cats. I’ve only had two cats, both stray, the first one tried to play with our feet when he was the only one in home as he plays with the second now.

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        Even if you have a lazy cat, mice have since learned to avoid the smell of cat pheromones. So just having a fat furball laying around will make it more likely the local mice go bother your neighbor instead.

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          eeeeh, it can go the other way. i dont think i would’ve ever had mice in this flat without the cat. but she likes to catch mice, bring them inside totally unharmed and let them go. and then watch them. chase them. sit on top of them. she doesnt eat them because i guess she never had to eat them.

          and then i end up catching the mouse since i dont want it loose in the flat at night, and i dont want to find a rotting mouse corpse 2 weeks later (this has happened at least twice).

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        They will have a joyous time with it. And you might find eviscerated mice under your couch one day. But my two dumbass fur balls just thought they were awesome toys.

        Never figured out quite when they stopped coming in. The only really humane way to kill em is snap traps. I probably went through a couple dozen of them before they stopped showing up.

        I was against using poisoned food traps because the last thing I wanted was my cat consuming a poisoned mouse. But, since our whole neighborhood had a problem with the mice, I wouldn’t be too surprised if a neighbor did it.

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          Snap traps in a brown paper bag baited with peanut butter.

          When you catch something, curl up the top of the bag and throw it all in the trash.

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            Ooooh that paper bag idea is nifty.

            We actually discovered something that worked far better than peanut butter - Reese’s peanut butter cups. You break off a little piece, squish it into a ball, and place it on the bait lever. Not a single trap misfired once we switched to that.

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      How do you have so many mice?

      Sounds like your apartment smells like leftovers; we had mice sometimes until we started to do dishes religiously and take out trash religiously. Or well, about as frequently as our parents do it.

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      They rarely need to in the city, also those that weren’t taught by other cats most of the time won’t kill the mouse just torture it or scare.

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          Mice and some other pests have evolved an instinctual aversion to the smell of cats, it triggers their fear response. Just having the cats around might have been good enough.

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          You are lucky, in my previous flat there were hoarders-alcoholics that lived on the next floor, one day they brought mice with whatever shit they decided to take. At first they were contained on their floor, but after a while they were everywhere. Cat played with them at first >_< and then got bored. After 10 or so that traps killed (in a month) I moved out.

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            Your experience reminded me of “Tom,” the farm cat who lived in the corn silo on my great aunt’s farm. He avoided/hated children but tolerated the adults who worked there. Depending on the season, he killed multiple mice a day, ate only their livers (leaving behind a trail of bodies), and used crippled mice to track down the hidden others. Tom was a true professional—and honestly, quite terrifying.

            Edit: My aunt “paid” him with leftover spaghetti, ground meat, and eggs, as well as a warm spot by the oven in the winter (if he chose to stay there). He was “semi-feral”—never going near the house during the summer months.

            Edit2 + Spelling,Typos,Grammar,

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                Ive always wondered about the poor villagers who lived in tigers territory. Every night a kitty comes out to play.

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                We had an indoor/outdoor cat growing up that liked to hunt squirrels. He was so good at it that the squirrels had a special cry for him. Anyways, he liked to leave nothing but their heads (with spine and tail still attached) on our front door step. I miss the little serial killer

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        I feel like depends on the cat. I found mine as a list kitten that we assumed got outside and then was starving and almost dead. He’s always been N indoor cat. Had never seen a mouse in the 8 years he was alive. I go out of town for a day and night and come back to a decapitated mouse in the apt. Fool took care of shit without even knowing. Then years later, we move into a house and a mouse gets in some how. My cat finds the mouse, kills it, walks around with it, then drops it in the hallway for us to clean up. If he had been taught how to catch mice when he was a kitten, I he wouldn’t have been starving to death. But when a mouse showed up, he knew exactly what to do.

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    The whole world is lit by gaslight. Gaslight people into buying gas cars, gaslight people into overpaying for a house by hundreds of thousands of dollars, gaslight you into a kamala vs trump fake fight. First world women gas lighting that they are real people, not literal walking talking personality disorders that the created themselves. At least the cats give affection.