• AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world
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    The “My pay is shit but at least I’m not a fast food worker” mindset. Or maybe they’re just pointing out the obvious situation we’re in but don’t necessarily want it to be this way.

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    If fast food worker wages cannot sustain life then fast food is unsustainable and should die out. If fast food becomes as slow and/or as expensive as a restaurant meal then fast food is a market distortion that shouldn’t exist. Simple as.

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      Not to mention ultra-processed foods and soft drinks are costing thousands of lives and billions of dollars of medical expenses per year. We have the fast food industry causing a health crises and a shitty ‘healthcare’ system perpetuating it.

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      Around where I am, fast food is the same price as some restaurants and only a few dollars less than others. For the most part they are faster though, so maybe there’s a point for people to go. Also easier to sit at a fast food place for a bit rather than take up a table that a server needs to turn for a while.

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        People go out of habit. Honestly, that is usually why my family ends up getting any of them, but we have even broken those habits as prices keep going up. They have forgotten their place.

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    If McDonald’s is making wild profits then the employees deserve a living wage. Full Stop. I don’t care if they just open the door, no reason 1% of the company deserves 90% of the profit.

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    I wish there was some CHIM shit in play where saying something so idiotic vanished you out of reality and retroactively erased such a person from our collective memories.

    Or maybe a better society that mitigates this kind of outlook. That’s cool too.

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    Anyone wo worked McDonald’s on Christmas Eve deserves $25/hr! Making those ridiculous 1k nugget orders comes at the cost of humans dedicating hours of their lives to this shit.

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      Most teenagers are harder workers than adults I’ve worked with. Either they are lazy and you get rid of them or they are hard working and usually worth more than the people who are casting those opinions by a long shot.

      If you think that telling them where to unload a truck is a job that deserves a living wage and the person unloading the truck doesn’t, you need a swift kick in the ass.

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    They want to make the excuse that these jobs are not designed to make people money. And yet when we talk about suppressing the power and ubiquity of corporate greed across America, and all of the economic harm that comes with it, all we hear is “but they create jobs!”

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    My mom talks about this shit all the time “flipping burgers isn’t a job!”, and demeans a shit load of other service jobs. She says those are just for teenagers to buy a car or to save for college (as fuckin if).

    But theoretically, if they were only for teenagers and broke college students, you really think those millions of jobs would all be filled by people between the age of 16 and 24? Seriously?

    Boomers are living in a fucking dream

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      Boomers are living in a fucking dream

      Meanwhile, everyone else is living in the nightmare they created.

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      My father pulled this gem out on me. I pointed out that fast food restaurants are open for breakfast and lunch, you know, while high schoolers are in, you know, school. And college students are in, you know, school. So by default adults who are not in school must fill 2/3 of the shifts. Surprising how fast he shut the fuck up when he realized that the job was, in fact, a real job that real adults with lives and children and rent were doing. He never said they were jobs for kids in my presence again.

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      These same assholes wouldn’t survive a week working a service job. That shit is hard and stressful as fuck.

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      for teenagers to save for college

      Makes sense. Average in-state tuition is about $16000 per year. At $7.25/hour, you only need to work 200 eight hour shifts every year to pay for tuition that year. Add that on to the 180 school days, it’s just 380 days a year.

      Obviously, you also need to register yourself as a subcontractor via an LLC subsidiary of a foreign shell corporation to avoid paying taxes on that, and you live at home, so all your food is completely free, and everything is on the internet anyway, so you don’t need books for college, and your college which is obviously in your town is only a 98 minute light jog away from home.

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        burgerites. it’s their religion, and I’m american enough to let people follow whatever deranged deities they want, as long as the fries are good.

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      Classic boomer logic… just because they could afford a decent life on min wage set 50 years ago doesnt make it true when the min wage has lagged behind inflation and not even accounting for greedflation…

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      “We cook your meals. We haul your trash. We connect your calls. We drive your ambulances. We guard you while you sleep. Do not fuck with us.”

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      Which why I find humor in how now (at least in CA) Someone working in McDonald’s makes more then say, an associate teacher at a preschool. (Agian no diss on fast food workers, just a little humour by the same logic people put more care into thier burger then thier kid)

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        Jobs in things like teaching and nursing are considered the caring professions, with the assumption that people who go into them do so to help people rather than make money, and thus are a soft touch to extract profits from. It is considered normal for teachers to be paid poverty wages, have to buy classroom supplies from their own funds and to lose money over their career, because, hey, if you didn’t want to sacrifice yourself for making the world better or whatever, you should have gone into finance instead.

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          sigh yeah…

          I realize as a community we really do put more care into our burgers then our children…

          Yeah, people retort, it’s not a job to make money, if you mention the bottom pay and parents who treat us as glorified babysitters or those who think they don’t have to raise their children because child development is a magical art and all we do is “abra cadbra healthy SEL”.

          And like some aort of masochist too many stick to or get into this field (I mean what kind of sucker still pursues a multi-subject credential, lol, me) because it’s true, we genuinely care for the children and want to them to grow.

          Yet another problem with our society, and ofc the only time systematic change will occur is when it’s tio late and even the most bleeding heart nurses, teachers etc have been forced out.

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          In Ontario, teachers are paid a respectable wage (six figures is fairly easily attainable for a full-time teacher) with solid pension, vacation, and benefits (the association managing the teacher’s pension is one of the biggest single stock investors in the country).

          People complain that “just teachers” shouldn’t be pulling 100k+ salaries all the time, but the thing is, being a teacher requires about 6 years of post-secondary here, a bachelor’s degree + teachers college. On top of that, there are continuing education requirements. Usually once I explain to people that someone with 6 years of post-secondary will often be getting $100k+ in private industry and thus teacher’s salaries are simply being competitive to that, they generally are somewhat understanding.

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          And it’s nothing new. A 3rd grade teacher of our oldest kid back in the mid-2000s was excellent. One of those people who were born with the natural ability to teach kids. She quit later that year after only a few years in the job because the pay was terrible and not meeting cost of living.

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              Okay. So if you mean that teaching at one time paid fairly and was seen better as a profession, then all the more reason to question why it’s not now. I was just adding my own experience of people being forced out of teaching because it’s not sustainable as an income. Which while may not have been true in the whole of human history, has been true long enough to change the very nature and image of teachers in the US.

              I could have gone further back. I remember as a kid in the 70s and teachers still having to buy supplies because the budget wasn’t enough. But again, that’s not ALL of history, so…

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        Jobs that “help” people or are considered “fun” aren’t considered real jobs and those don’t deserve real wages.

        Especially if they’re predominately female employees.

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    I do think a lot of food jobs should go away. Restaurants are a huge source of food waste and it’s because we have restaurants ready to serve more food in an area than there are people in that area, let alone people who want to go out and eat that night.

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    Americans have clearly never heard the phrase

    “Never fuck with someone who handles your food.”

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    Agreed! I think people should work 60 hours a week and if they can’t afford to literally eat then they need to Buy some Bootstraps and find another Job even though there’s literally Not Enough Time to do it! And if there’s not a kid at 1pm to take my Order at BURGER KING even though they should be in School I’ll SCREAM!