We should build a Great Firewall and make China pay for it. – Mitt Romney, probably
The New Republic, Mitt Romney Reveals Twisted Reason Why Congress Moved to Ban TikTok
“Some wonder why there was such overwhelming support for us to shut down potentially TikTok or other entities of that nature. If you look at the postings on TikTok and the number of mentions of Palestinians relative to other social media sites, it’s overwhelmingly so among TikTok broadcasts. So I’d note that’s of real interest, and the President will get the chance to make action in that regard,” Romney said.
This exactly this. It was never about the Chinese spying on American citizens
The shitty American government doesn’t care that fucked up shit is happening to their citizens who it is their sacred duty to serve, they care that China’s doing it, and they want to be doing it instead.
Let this be a lesson to you all: If you report a post for a reason as stupid as this, I might just let everyone know so they can laugh about it.
P.S. This is Lemmy Shitpost. You can misinform people all you like. Watch: Some camels are actually a type of iguana. But only the Bactrian camels. The rest are types of cacti. And if you drink their saliva, it will cure your gout.
Just want to pitch in and clarify the misinformation topic, since this is something explicitly mentioned in the Lemmy.World TOS, section 8.
Specifically, the type of misinformation that is prohibited is that which is harmful to others. Here’s a direct quote that pretty much sums up the matter:
We DO reserve the right to remove any information posted which COULD cause imminent PHYSICAL harm to any living being
We also reserve the right to remove any sufficiently scientifically proven MALICIOUS information posted which a user may follow, which would result in either IMMINENT PHYSICAL harm to an INDIVIDUALS PROPERTY, the PROPERTY of OTHERS or OTHER LIVING BEINGS.
So that being said, you’re all free to talk all the shit you want. I’m only going to care if the shit you talk is actually harmful.
OPs shit is in no way demonstrably harmful to anyone in any relevant manner. So they get to keep talking it.
Edit: I’ll concede, you may be put in harms way if you try to drink camel saliva. I presume they kick pretty hard. But frankly, you deserve it for trying.
This is exactly the energy I hope for in a shitposting mod. TYFYS
lmfao holy shit, I am truly honored that my content was reported, they took it so much more seriously than I did and I’m the guy who made the post
Do I need to drink the saliva fresh from the camel’s mouth, or can I have it bottled and shipped to me?
Yes.
We should really ban Xitter as well as the operator is most likely a Russian bot
Elon got a ton of money from the Saudis to buy Xitter. Wouldn’t surprise me to learn they were pushing the authoritarian centric content.
It was infested by Russian bots even before it was bought by a Russian bot
Meh USA president about to be Russian bot too
You know Americans can be dogshit without being foreign right?
Nope. If it’s bad, it’s because of outside agitation and enemy propaganda.
America is exceptional, it can’t do anything wrong except stop being American
Well, with this logic, yeah, fuck TikTok (I mean it, what an awful site)… And twitter, and Facebook, and Instagram, and Tumblr (it’s still alive?) and all the social networks that don’t belong to the user homeland!
They’re all spyware and propaganda machines.
EXACTLY!
Meanwhile in India…
idgaf what the jeep tea has to say about anything ever, tbh.
You’re missing out. A lot of cool stuff you can do. I recently had it make a grocery list with prices and recipes that matched my budget and specific tastes for my family. When it was all said and done I was actually under budget by $50 and got a lot of stuff I wouldn’t normally get.
You shouldn’t pay for ChatGPT though. Or use it.
If you can’t self host, Use Deepseek, Qwen Chat, Gemini, Kobold Horde, literally anything but OpenAI. Sam Altman is a straight up con artist.
It’s free…
Everything I listed is free!
AFAIK only OpenAI’s small model is free (not the full GPT 4), and these days it’s really bad compared to other free models.
The phrase “get rekt Imao” mocks TikTok, adding a humorous and dismissive tone.
It’s weird seeing chat gpt analyses something you wrote on someone else’s device, even if it’s something as trivial as a meme like this
Just like American social media companies
This article from 2024 gives a pretty good rundown as to why using this reasoning to ban Tiktok will set a very bad precedent:
If the govt cared about your data privacy, they would create data collection regulations that they could then use to ban tiktok if/when they violate them.
They did. They banned sending US Citizen data to adversarial nations including China, Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Russia, and/or Venezuela. It was all packaged into one vote and now that’s the law, for everyone.
They banned sending US Citizen data to adversarial nations
create data collection regulations
Americans simply cannot grasp the difference between Not Collecting Data To Begin With and China Bad
You say that as if China doesn’t use it’s own citizens data extensively for nefarious purposes.
Lawmakers and the White House have justified the crackdown on TikTok by claiming the app’s link to Beijing makes it a national security threat. But supporters of a ban have not offered direct evidence of the Chinese government ever attempting to obtain data from the company, nor any proof that authorities there have ever influenced content on the platform used by 170 million Americans.
I’m pretty sure that the Chinese government has direct unfiltered access to byte dance Chinese servers, there’s no need to “attempt” to obtain data, they don’t need a judge or an injunction, they can just do it. It’s a different system from the American or European ones.
The big issue is the US trying to ban Tiktok explicity for “national security” without showing the public a shred of evidence. What do you call it when China blocks access to an American app because of “national security”?
Lmao
ByteDance publicly admitted they stored the user data in Beijing in 2023.
The userdata includes location service, facial analysis, usage data, contacts, photo library, messages, and sound recordings in addition to the things people actually uploaded.
Please read the article.
Meanwhile all the TikTok users seem to be moving to a copycat called Red Note
That just looks objectively worse imo
The fact that it’s hit #1 on the US Apple app store is wild to me.
Five eyes agents must be pulling their hair out.
Yeah that’s kind of why people are doing it.
Five eyes agents must be pulling their hair out.
Haha get fucked. Love to see it
Yeah but the Chinese one is bad because the American one said so.
And the American one is bad because the Chinese one said so.
I mean, it is actually bad.
Why?
Because China is bad. They are using my TikToks to genocide the Uighurs and invade the Taiwanese.
Same reason why the American one is bad
It’s not it’s just about control.
not my phone 😋
Nokia 8210?
CalyxOS and utilization of FOSS-only software in addition to leaving airplane mode on on my phone unless I’m expecting a call
I do have a Nokia though. I got it on clearance for like $5 lol
You forgot mossad
“Hmmm well if you think tiktok should be banned for spying then do you think american social media platforms should be banned for doing the same thing?”
Yes. They should. That is not the argument you think it is.
I think that retort is just there to point out that other social media platforms definitely will not be banned at any point, calling to question the legitimacy of the claim that the ban is because of invasive spy practices. Hypocrisy is loud.
They will be if they send US Citizens’ data to China, Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Russia, and/or Venezuela. Because that’s how the law which bans TikTok was written.
Love to watch the contortionism .world does to justify the yellow peril
It is genuinely one of the most enjoyable things I could imagine to watch the American empire fall in real time, as its imperial core citizens flounder and flop around in impotent rage.
That’s the thing about reality. It has a leftist bias and it doesn’t give a shit about liberals raging at their own inability to comprehend the contradictions of their existence.
I HATE Chinese spyware used to push Chinese propaganda. I only like AMERICAN spyware used to push AMERICAN propaganda!!! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅
MURICA!!!
It’s possible to dislike both. We are on Lemmy after all.
Yes. I only want FOSS and federated spyware social media.
The problem is they aren’t both getting banned/regulated, making the reasoning behind the tiktok ban extremely suspect
Edit: a word
Well, no need to put down Lemmy users about it.
