20-01-2025. This is a real image

    • A Wild Mimic appears!@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      15 hours ago

      I’m austrian, and i have seen better nazi salutes by drunk edgy teenagers in the 90s. Are you americans in here sure he actually knows how a nazi salute should look like or do all of the Y’all Quaeda first grip their steroid induced mantits before they half-dab?

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    17 hours ago

    Frustrating but predictable.

    Personally I’m pretty happy with how fucking awkward Elon was while doing it. The whole gif is really cringe.


    It’s a long way to 2026 folks. We are going to have a lot of Federal Level damage in the next couple of years. Even if Democrats get elected in 2026+ we will have absurd debts to pay and likely be forced to raise taxes and be the bad guy again.

    • southsamurai@sh.itjust.works
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      16 hours ago

      You do know it isn’t mandatory to let it happen, right?

      Seriously, we do not have to abandon our right to revolution

      • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        15 hours ago

        You do know it isn’t mandatory to let it happen, right?

        Did anyone tell the DNC? Because they’re sure as hell ACTING like it is…

        Seriously, we do not have to abandon our right to revolution

        A couple weeks late now. For a popular revolt facing an overwhelming power imbalance, you need to rely on anyone in government being squeamish about massacring civilians.

        The new government would rather kill a thousand innocent people than concede the God-Emperor ever being wrong about anything, and the new Senate minority would rather let them than violate procedural norms.

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          14 hours ago

          While I agree it looks like apathy has set in, maybe Luigi can be seen as a catalyst for change through action.

          Godspeed my USian neighbours.

          • djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            12 hours ago

            Won’t happen.

            Americans are lazy bastards, and nothing makes them lazier than the cold. For as much as I admire Luigi, he will have thrown his life away for nothing. If he’d been a little bit sooner, or a lot bit later, maybe he could be a martyr. As is, he’ll be a footnote.

            What you would need is several copycat killers, with some getting away, during the summer when Americans are comfortable protesting. Even then, American protests have recently been toothless, and haven’t made any effect on politics ever since Trump took office in 2016.

            • WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world
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              1 hour ago

              Revolutions are actually more like a powderkeg. Once a significant proportion of the population become apathetic and angry, all it takes is a spark to ignite it. This has repeated many times throughout history. Most recently in Syria, where a decade of civil war deadlock completely evaporated in a few months.

              What we need is a relatively small number people like this https://youtube.com/watch?v=V74AxCqOTvg

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              12 hours ago

              Inspiration doesn’t expire, it breeds like hope. History happens slowly and through a culmination of events. A catalyst is the enabler of the future.

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                2 hours ago

                An excerpt from “They Thought They Were Free: The Germans, 1933-45”, an interview with a German after WWII on why they didn’t rise up:

                Each act, each occasion, is worse than the last, but only a little worse. You wait for the next and the next. You wait for one great shocking occasion, thinking that others, when such a shock comes, will join with you in resisting somehow. You don’t want to act, or even talk alone; you don’t want to “go out of your way to make trouble.” Why not?—Well, you are not in the habit of doing it. And it is not just fear, fear of standing alone, that restrains you; it is also genuine uncertainty.

                Uncertainty is a very important factor, and, instead of decreasing as time goes on, it grows. Outside, in the streets, in the general community, “everyone” is happy. One hears no protest, and certainly sees none. You speak privately to your colleagues, some of whom certainly feel as you do; but what do they say? They say, “It’s not so bad” or “You’re seeing things” or “You’re an alarmist.”

                And you are an alarmist. You are saying that this must lead to this, and you can’t prove it. These are the beginnings, yes; but how do you know for sure when you don’t know the end, and how do you know, or even surmise, the end? On the one hand, your enemies, the law, the regime, the Party, intimidate you. On the other, your colleagues pooh-pooh you as pessimistic or even neurotic. You are left with your close friends, who are, naturally, people who have always thought as you have.

                But your friends are fewer now. Some have drifted off somewhere or submerged themselves in their work. You no longer see as many as you did at meetings or gatherings. Now, in small gatherings of your oldest friends, you feel that you are talking to yourselves, that you are isolated from the reality of things. This weakens your confidence still further and serves as a further deterrent to—to what? It is clearer all the time that, if you are going to do anything, you must make an occasion to do it, and then are obviously a troublemaker. So you wait, and you wait.

                But the one great shocking occasion, when tens or hundreds of thousands will join with you, never comes. That’s the difficulty. If the last and worst act of the whole regime had come immediately after the first and smallest, thousands, yes, millions, would have been sufficiently shocked—if, let us say, the gassing of the Jews in ’43 had come immediately after the “German Firm” stickers on the windows of non-Jewish shops in ’33. But of course this isn’t the way it happens. In between come all of the hundreds of little steps, some of them imperceptible, each of them preparing you not to be shocked by the next. Step C is not so much worse than Step B, and, if you did not make a stand at Step B, why should you at Step C? And so on to Step D.

                And one day, too late, your principles, if you were ever sensible of them, all rush in upon you. The burden of self-deception has grown too heavy, and some minor incident, in my case my little boy, hardly more than a baby, saying “Jewish swine,” collapses it all at once, and you see that everything has changed and changed completely under your nose. The world you live in—your nation, your people—is not the world you were born in at all. The forms are all there, all untouched, all reassuring, the houses, the shops, the jobs, the mealtimes, the visits, the concerts, the cinema, the holidays. But the spirit, which you never noticed because you made the lifelong mistake of identifying it with the forms, is changed. Now you live in a world of hate and fear, and the people who hate and fear do not even know it themselves; when everyone is transformed, no one is transformed. Now you live in a system which rules without responsibility even to God. The system itself could not have intended this in the beginning, but in order to sustain itself it was compelled to go all the way.

                Suddenly it all comes down, all at once. You see what you are, what you have done, or, more accurately, what you haven’t done (for that was all that was required of most of us: that we do nothing). You remember those early morning meetings of your department in the university when, if one had stood, others would have stood, perhaps, but no one stood. A small matter, a matter of hiring this man or that, and you hired this one rather than that. You remember everything now, and your heart breaks. Too late. You are compromised beyond repair.

        • southsamurai@sh.itjust.works
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          14 hours ago

          That is indeed the problem.

          Truth be told, it ain’t happening, but I get so sick of people shrugging it off and pretending that we don’t have a choice. We do

          It’s just that the majority would rather watch the system get tighter and tighter because they think the noose isn’t going to be around their necks.

      • dragontamer@lemmy.world
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        15 hours ago

        And who will lead this revolution? Biden? Kamala?

        Go on. Who is the leader? Do we just gotta all rally behind Jill Stein now?

        • southsamurai@sh.itjust.works
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          14 hours ago

          Why do you think anyone that’s already part of the system would be involved at all?

          It has to be us, the people, not some charismatic, or good liar that’s stuck in the concept of making the system work. It has to come from people that are tired of the fact that the system does work, just not for us

              • dragontamer@lemmy.world
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                14 hours ago

                No. I’m just aware of the need for a charismatic leader.

                Civil rights had Martin Luther King. Among other leaders. The idea of doing this without leadership is the fundamental flaw.

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                13 hours ago

                If there is a leader, any leader at all, who’d try to lead the progressive cause? And one that people would really behind?

                That’d be a good first start. Even celebrities like Jack Black.

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                  11 hours ago

                  Jack Black actively chose to call out his fellow band mates who made a mild joke about the assassination attempt that hit Trump’s ear.

                  He’s not going to be leading any revolutions.

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      16 hours ago

      Now they are gloating that the peasants are hurting themselves…

      Zero self reflection, they are still defending DNC komissars

      JFC pathetic.

    • floofloof@lemmy.ca
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      16 hours ago

      Even if you’re right, why bring this up in every single thread? What’s it contributing?

        • Nindelofocho@lemmy.world
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          16 hours ago

          Do you think it actually helps? All it does is make you sound like a troll and your message just makes you come off as a spiteful curmudgeon

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            15 hours ago

            I’d say it makes them sound like an edgy teen. But all the things you said are valid as well. Plus, teens smell as bad, if not worse, as trolls.

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        15 hours ago

        It’s illegal migrants cleansing party. Never saw anything about ethnic in their claims

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          11 hours ago

          It’s not going to be Australian backpackers overstaying their visas who get deported en mass.

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        14 hours ago

        Doesn’t Trump get to take credit for both the ceasefire & saving TikTok, a pro-Palestine platform? I used to think only Republicans were dumb, but then they lost to the candidate they claimed was the most idiotic.

  • TsarVul@lemmy.world
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    15 hours ago

    While Israel is crashing the fuck out and fragging kids during the ceasefire, Muskolini hit a sieg that the fuhrer would have trouble matching in energy. That shit had momentum to it. He wound that mother up like Popeye. Don’t let me catch anyone calling this a dogwhistle.

    If you can afford to not purchase american goods & services and you’re not doing so, you’re complicit. Let it be known.

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          16 hours ago

          Look man. I don’t know what to tell you. I know trump was already president from 2017-2021, but that still doesn’t feel real. The idea of trump is president feels…not real. It feels like a plot from a tv show. And not even a GOOD tv show. Some show that nobody watches because “ugh, this is crap…change the channel!”

          Except we CAN’T change the channel. And by popular vote Americans have decided they don’t WANT to change the channel. And you’re just handcuffed to your chair, forced to watch this bad reality all around you.

          It’s like being on a roller coaster that you know has a 100% chance of flying off the rails. But you’re still on it. Knowing disaster awaits, as we’ve spent the last 3 months climbing the anticipation hill, except now it’s time to go flying off the rails. Here it comes!

          WHEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeee…

  • XIIIesq@lemmy.world
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    7 hours ago

    I guess I’m going to be the one that plays devil’s advocate as there is no context here other than a still image, but is it possible he wasn’t intentionally doing a Nazi salute and has just been caught in an incredibly awkward pose?

  • XIIIesq@lemmy.world
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    5 hours ago

    What’s more likely?

    A large proportion of Americans are very ready to be extremely upset and will look in to things that aren’t there, like a socially inept Musk appearing to make a Nazi salute.

    Or

    Musk intentionally made a Nazi salute.

    I know it’s emotional times, but I think a huge amount of people aren’t thinking rationally.

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    10 hours ago

    Fuck Trump, Elon, the other oligarchs, and all of the short-sighted moronic voters and non-voters who put them back in power.

    This may not be what America wants, but this is what Americans deserve for being so fucking stupid.