I don’t think they want Obama running again… He whooped their ass twice.
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It’s Grover Cleveland’s time to shine
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Bold to assume he would even be elected again after 4 years of fucking it up. He wasn’t last time.
If not for COVID he probably would have been.
Luckily we’ve got bird fly waiting in the wings to fuck our shit up once RFKJr decides we should follow the Leslie Knope disaster response plan and start giving the birds CPR.
Bold of you to assume the next elections would be fair.
Bold of you to assume there’d be more elections…
/s
I don’t think that’s sarcasm, is it? It sounds like a realistic concern, though fraudulent show-elections are more likely at first.
It was just in case 😉
Personally I think he’ll try and extend term lengths too.
Seems more like someone sucking up to Trump rather than something they realistically believe they could get passed
Yeah there is less than zero percent chance this happens.
Reminder that they control all branches of government and can do whatever the hell they want.
Even though I partially agree that it’s probably somebody sucking up instead of them passing a “remove all term limits” bill instead.
Or maybe they’re just testing the waters and compliance of the people currently elected, heck if I know.
And we were all overreacting about Roe v Wade. “Precedent”, “established law”, “checks and balances”. It could never happen, they said.
I really would like to see some of those checks and balances I’ve heard so much about. Must have gotten confused—it’s cheques for the rich, on our dime, to make their balance keeps going up.
That’s a really dangerous way of thinking. We can no longer normalize this stuff by going “it’ll never actually happen.” It CAN happen. Get your head out of the sand and stop minimizing the very real threat our democracy is facing.
This one won’t happen though. It doesn’t have the votes. It would require a Constitutional amendment, and thus a LOT of Democrats on board.
You can’t freak out about every possible thing.
When every possible thing is this fucking freaky, we can indeed freak out about them.
What democracy? We’ve been living in a police state our entire lives. Talk about a dangerous way of thinking, ffs, how many hundreds of thousands of people were murdered under the Bush administration alone, and you act like that was just healthy democracy? Why were Bush and Obama on the same page about the erosion of our civil liberties and global imperialism? I swear, some of you are just miles from the correct explanation.
Well if the heritage Foundation is going to follow the book of revelation, he needs to be there for 7.5 years.
Good fucking luck with that hurdle.
They need a two-thirds vote in both the House of Representatives and the Senate; or a conventio called by Congress at the request of two-thirds of the state legislatures. Then it has to be ratified by the legislatures of three-quarters of the states.
Even if they managed a super majority on both sides of Congress for Trumplefuck, there’s no way they’re getting 38 States to agree to that.
It’s obviously completely performative, this is a very common move in US politics in general, I’ve noticed–introducing a bill they know is definitely not going to pass, but makes them look good to their base.
I don’t think the law is a restricting factor for the trump regime.
That’s what the Trump regime wants us to think.
Laws only apply if they are enforced.
Which is why I often find myself saying the Trump admin will face one of two types of justice: vigilante or none.
Trump is ruling by executive order and no one is stopping him from doing any of it, constitutional or not.
He’ll just issue an executive order to lower the threshold and at best that order gets challenged and goes to the SCOTUS, and we all know what will happen there.There’s already an injunction against one of his orders. I’m sure more will come.
Unfortunately those are only for the states that filed suit against it.
The only effective short-term roadblocks are going to be legal challenges, like the ones WA’s governor and AG have been preparing for. You’re right that this only works until it gets overturned by SCOTUS, and it doubly hurts progressives because we now have to spend resources (time and money) fighting nonsense instead of fighting for causes we want…like some goddamn healthcare.
Delay. Deny. Depose.
The Night of the Long Knives would like to have a word with you
Trump is the candidate during next election
Red States let him be an option even though they shouldn’t
He wins enough red States to have a majority
They name him president even though it’s against the Constitution
The supreme Court is packed with his picks so they don’t do anything about it
Tada! Civil war? Dissolution of the USA? Who knows!?!
This.
We need to stop acting like the norms matter at all, like the rules still apply. We must treat this like what it is: a threat to our very survival.
The US government, at least the parts that actually could do something about this, are on the brink of total collapse or dismantlement. I hate to say it but I think the time for peaceful resistance is long since past, i don’t see any way this is going to end without bloodshed
It’s sad that you guys still think the rule of the constitution is some massive roadblock that they’ve somehow missed. They literally made an Executive Order that just says “No” to the very first sentence of the 14th amendment, do you think none of them noticed? They get to have a vote about ludicrous things, and they get to gleefully destroy the lives of any Republican who dares vote against them. Maybe it gets struck down for the time being? Who cares, the courts are packed, they can realistically just start killing people pretty soon and it’ll start with the disloyals and the true believers as needed as it always does.
You cannot logical trap nor get off on technicalities fascists. It does not matter to them, they will just do what they want anyways, all that matters is if they can crush anyone who tries to stop them.
They are pushing the boundaries of the conversation and they are testing the waters, and every time they’re pushed back on they use the limp push back to consolidate more power because nobody has been willing to actually stop them.
With all due respect, that is some real defeatist dog shit. Yes, Trump and cronies have no respect for the constitution or the rule of law. But if we collectively roll over at the first fascist executive order, that’s exactly what they want us to do… They are testing the waters. The supreme court is packed, but every circuit court in the country certainly isn’t. And that’s where these battles are already being fought. We need to collectively resist every encroachment, every power grab. Otherwise we’re nearly as culpable as Trump for the rise of fascism.
If you aren’t willing to kill them then they will inch forward until they win. That is why civil wars have existed.
Violence isn’t the only way to fight fascism. It’s surely a way. But the courts and the school districts are two early battle grounds where folks are already pushing back (non-violently) and preventing some of that inching forward.
Preventing some, some of the time, is how you get here, inch by inch, and eventually earlier wins become future losses.
Look at it this way… We have a portfolio of tools to fight fascism. Sometimes, yes, the proper response to a specific incursion is direct action. Sometimes you can accomplish more with other means (fighting back in the courts, etc.). It doesn’t have to be all or nothing, and in fact I’d argue you accomplish the most by picking your tools wisely for each battle.
There are only two tried and true methods I am aware of to stop fascists:
- Killing them
- Making them kill themselves
I’m going to enjoy seeing this comment get removed. I’ll think about it as I’m put on the train to the death camp.
I think the logic is sound… If anyone is allowed to introduce legislation against established reforms infinitely many times, you get gish galloped to death and they will eventually get their way no matter how terrible the idea is. Because it’s a deep ideology, you must get rid of the person to get rid of the idea.
Pretty fucking gross if you ask me.
As planned, the stunlock proceeds
And there it is…
Didn’t even wait a whole week. Emporer Trump inbound
Obama returns to the presidency in 2028!
Not paying attention. He already served two consecutive terms. Can’t run for a third unless you win a term them lose a term then win a term and need a third term to actually get shit done.
''No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than three times, nor be elected to any additional term after being elected to two consecutive terms," the amendment states. Former Presidents Bill Clinton, George W. Bush and Barack Obama all served two consecutive terms, and thus would be barred from being elected to a third term. But not Trump, who is the first president since Grover Cleveland in 1892 to be elected to a second, non-consecutive term.
It doesn’t really matter. Getting a new constitutional amendment ratified is basically impossible at this point.
bet they try to take it to the supreme court “whaaa the congress won’t give me a dictatorship whaaa” and the court just fucks us all.
I really don’t understand why people are adamant that this is trump’s own personal court. The court is, as always, working in their own interest, and it’s not in their interest to cede all their own power to trump.
I really don’t understand why people are adamant that this is trump’s own personal court.
just one of those mysteries of life I suppose…
er, wait a moment, it’s not mysterious at all, where the fuck have you been?
Own interests? Brother, they’re ancient and most are courting billionaires like Harland Crow
California could be broken into 66 Wyoming-sized states.
Many of them would be red.
Not by population. ChatGPT says 55 blue, 10 red, and 4 swing.
He will be too old. All presidents should follow the 2 term rule. FDR should have followed it.
FTA" “Trump “has proven himself to be the only figure in modern history capable of reversing our nation’s decay and restoring America to greatness, and he must be given the time necessary to accomplish that goal,”” - He hasn’t don’t anything yet!! How has he ‘proven himself’
good lord…
He’s proven that he’s a fascist and demented psycho, so that’s good enough for republicans.
I think you mean a fascist, demented sociopath.
“It is imperative that we provide President Trump with every resource necessary to correct the disastrous course set by the Biden administration,” Ogles said in a statement
so Biden created a bad situation for him in 4 years, yet he thinks Trump needs 8 years to undo it. Sounds like a skill issue to me.
Will the guy still have a working brain? Lol.
That question presumes that he does now.
Wonderful idea, I can’t wait for a third Obama term.
It’s written to exclude Obama.
It’s written specifically to exclude Bush, Clinton, and Obama, Trump is the only person it can apply to.
