• ManOMorphos@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    People hyped for the Nvidia 5000 series better get their cards before prices skyrocket across the board. I guess graphics cards weren’t expensive enough or something.

    Really though, no brand is safe from the soon-to-be insane prices if this does go through as a blanket tariff without exceptions. Better to err on the safe side and upgrade soon as you can, if you need to and you’re not too wealthy to care.

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      world going down faster than ur sister on a Friday night but PC parts go BRRrRRRRRrrrrRRRrRRRR

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        The most cutting-edge chips are made in Taiwan. Hardly any (if any) chip foundry comes close to the quality they export. It will raise prices of nearly everything in a PC as consumers will probably buy up the remaining stock of modern hardware as an alternative.

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        I’ve read some idiots online saying “you’re dumb if you didn’t wait for the 5000 series” based off of the revealed MSRP, as if the majority of people are ever going to buy at those prices (especially now with tariffs). What’s likely is that consumers will pay far more to get relatively less improvement if they go with a 5000 series card.

        There’s enough sucker fanboys for Nvidia that they’ll probably still sell though. Just like how there’s people who will buy the new Call of Duty each year.

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          Even for the big spenders the 5090 does not warrant a new purchase. The 4090 was fast enough for most things. For things the 4090 is not fast enough, the 30% bump will not be much help.

          A far bigger VRAM capacity would have been nice but 8GB extra is meh

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        The dismantling of the US was Putins wet dream since forever, he would have done the same with or without the well deserved sanctions for invading Ukraine.

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      I’m sure that orange fuck will try to sell it to “beautiful” president Xi, or to clean it out to stop the conflict, or something like that, that bubbles up in his senile demented brain.

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      15 hours ago

      I mean Puerto Rico is literally part of the US and that doesn’t seem to matter for them…

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    I don’t get the goal here. It’s not just that existing fabs are in Taiwan, I thought it was the knowledge was as well.

    I was under the impression that we’d built a couple of fabs here and they’re not productive due to a knowledge deficit. Maybe I’m uninformed.

    It seems, to my uninformed self, that if we impose tariffs we’d be strengthening Taiwan/China relations. Wouldn’t China still serve as a middle man?

    I don’t see us manufacturing when the dollar is so high relative to foreign currency; add in the lack of knowledge and facilities and I’m not sure what you get.

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      I truly believe these are his way of soliciting bribes from foreign and domestic businesses.

      They’re going to have to pay him to get around them.

  • Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world
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    Trump is going to use Tariffs to try to offset making larger tax cuts for the wealthy.

    It’s better that he does this now so that we have a solid recent example to point to of how this will impact what we pay for goods.

    Never mind we have 100 years of data backing this up, people are idiots and won’t recognize the treat until it hurts them directly.

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      In a way I’m glad he’s doing this. He’s going to inflect so much pain that he loses in a landslide in four or 8 years or whatever. If income tax rates are 0, then a new administration would be able to set them as high as they want without consideration of trying to increase them by 2 percent or whatever they do now.

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        I agree I’d rather Trump shit the bed hard and early so we can contain the damage and show the public at large what his policies will really do to them.

        But Tariffs will never be enough to offset income tax completely. I think he is going to use Tariffs to offset renewing his tax cuts for the wealthy. There are a good number of house republicans who will not go along with tax cuts if it increases the deficit. Revenue from tariffs would give him enough cover to placate those Republicans while directly pushing the cost onto US consumers who are primarily lower and middle classes.

        Even after 4 years when he is out of office and the next administration reduces those tariffs and goes back to a progressive tax system. Even reducing those tariffs then will never bring prices down. Companies will never pass those savings entirely to the consumer they will pocket the money and everyone else will be screwed.

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          The grift is obvious for anyone paying attention but a lot of his base doesn’t realize that they pay almost no tax because of credits and deductions. Tariffs will hit the working class hard.

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      To be fair, we mostly have examples of how free trade reduces prices. But this reduction in prices usually wasn’t instantaneous and perceivable by ordinary folks. Because corporations wouldn’t hand out the savings to consumers until the very slow market force of competition forced them to. Tariffs will make everything more expensive and even if they are eventually culled, stuff will not become suddenly cheap again.

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        I agree, I doubt very much that price savings for any reduction in Tariffs will be passed onto the consumer. However any increase in Tariffs will immediately be felt.

        I’d rather see an increase in a single sector such as microchips to show the public the costs of Trump’s plan in real modern dollars to help build opposition. Than wait until he pushes an across the board Tariff. Which would likely result in a stagflation for the population at large.

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    I’ve been looking at doing a new pc build but wanted to wait for the new GPUs coming out. Looks like I should just my new build before prices are stupid.

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          But that would be low!
          And really the president doesn’t have the power to set prices. Trump can’t magically make eggs cheaper! And so on. Chatgpt what is the best open source open hardware guillotine plans?

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            He doesn’t have the ability to directly set prices, no. He could massively subsidise things he wants to be cheaper. Do you think that’s going to happen though?

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                I’m sorry, I’m not sure I’m following your train of thought…

                Are there currently egg shortages? Subsidising something doesn’t mean there’s less of it, means the government pays someone in the production stream to keep prices low. Like what happens with gasoline just about everywhere.

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                  The official story is they killed 100 nillion chicken due to bird flu. This caused a shortage of eggs, the shortage caused the price to raise until it was so high they became unaffordable to some people.

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    I say this not to be reactionary or pro trump.

    Is there no way to use lesser nodes for wider applications? While there are processes that need as much speed as possible, I feel like what gives Taiwan semiconducting industries such great business is the fact that code optimization isn’t as cost effective as the latest and greatest chips.

    I HOPE these tariffs inspire better, more secure code to make less efficient chips more viable. Like a lemon to lemonade situation.

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      If you optimize code, it will still run faster if the CPU or GPU is 30% faster.

      If you make 50% speed improvements with code, you get 65% improvement with code+hardware upgrades. The hardware multiplies your software gains.

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        Also, half of the gains in recent years have been in energy efficiency, not just speed.

        So if the idea is to do more with less, you don’t wanna rely on old power-hungry designs.

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    Oh man, Trump…I had this thing I wanted to give you…where did I put it…oh yeah…🖕