You may not like their posts but that doesn’t automatically make them a troll. If they’re trying to get a reaction, then yes, but sometimes, these “trolls” aren’t even trolls
If the"trolls"are just people with different opinions, it’s to discredit them.
Some times Person A can be so fallacious or incorrect, Person B may assume they’re intentionally wasting time by trolling, doubting that Person A is actually unintentionally that incompetent or incapable of discourse.
This usually starts when Person A ignores what Person B has said or starts applying common argument fallacies, seemingly for the sake of being right as a priority over empathising or broadening perspective.
Of my many years socialising on the Internet, it should be very rare to be called a troll; so much so that if it happens, it’s likely I’m being a total twat entirely out of touch with reality. So, if you’re finding this happens to you regularly, it may be food for thought to at least listen/read what someone is saying and ponder on it before responding. If you start wasting their time, prepare tocontinue being called a troll.
I feel like the amount of actual trolls and bad-faith posters made many people hyper vigilant about anything that looks like a potential bait. The general polarization also causes people to react more rashly rather than approaching something in good faith and responding in polite and constructive manner.
That’s not to say everyone is irrational and wrong about how they react but it really does seem like some would rather yell at any sign of opposition or doubt instead of talking it out. It’s an unfortunate result of the times we live in, to some extent.
Oh I’ll bring the popcorn
Because it’s trolls more often than not.
Fair enough
You’re trolling here, right?
I’m not, I’m just asking
It’s a pattern of behavior. If a user spends their time nitpicking every minor detail of a comment, but seems to be incapable of understanding that other people have different ideas, or worse purposefully parses someone’s language incorrectly just to continue an argument back and forth without any progress or even a desire to see a resolution, only wanting to have the last word, I consider that to be trolling. Nobody has benefited from the interaction, and everybody leaves frustrated, annoyed, and only further entrenched in their original position.
I think people have pretty different ideas of what behavior counts as trolling, but simply disagreeing with a user or not liking their posts doesn’t make them a troll.
My dude that’s like, 99% of Lemmy 🤣
Many people do not understand how to politely disagree. Sometimes they will accuse people of things because they cannot properly communicate their views
Also fragility.
It’s probably an easier pill to swallow than the idea that someone might have valid reasons to disagree with them.
I think this is the best answer here. I see this happen constantly in online discussions.
Calling someone a troll is admitting you lost the argument, in my mind.
If you give a specific example, it’s easier to give an answer that might help understanding.
It’s easier to insult someone you disagree with than to have a rational, intelligent discussion.
Either
- They’re a troll
- The replier is the troll
- the replier is an idiot
Ive had people call me a troll or a trump supporter because I think the democrats are also bad for supporting genocide. I think these people are just brutally stupid. That’s the only reason I can think of for someone not being able to fathom that I don’t like genocide.
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How often do the ughurs come up vs the Israel/Gaza conflict?
Exactly.
Whataboutery much?
Not at all. When someone claims that they don’t like genocide, but only ever makes noise about the one they can use to get fascists elected, I think that’s relevant.
And a troll casually walks into the bar
we needed an example subject XD
I am not in support of ANY genocide. I am much more upset with genocides that MY COUNTRY is complicit in, and that I can actually help to stop. Don’t be a fucking idiot.
Got it. The only genocides you care about are the ones that require you not to vote Democrat in 2024.
I do not believe the poster said anything of the sort. Where are you getting this information?
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Im not engaging with your bad faith argument bullshit.
It’s not a bad faith argument. You don’t like genocide. China is doing what you don’t like to the Uighurs. One can only presume that you don’t buy products made in China, since that funnels money and power to the Chinese government.
Unless it’s just the one genocide you don’t like.
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When was the last time you even tried to live without buying anything built by exploited labor, abusive extraction processes, and run by oligarchs? You can’t. It would maybe look like a hunter-gatherer or maybe a primitive pastoral life. It is literally impossible for any of us to be having this discussion in this medium without some of exploitation and/or abuse. There is no moral consumption under capitalism, hell probably even impossible under any globalism.
So fuck right the fuck off with your sanctimonious bullshit.
By your logic then if you voted for democrats or republicans then you like genocide.
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Bipartisan propaganda against China does not restrain itself in making black/white genocide accusations that are more political than factual. Xinxang is quite prosperous now after the most historically humane response to counter terrorism. There are no improvement/success/peace metrics to make US stop shit talking China.
calling people trolls has become excuse just like calling everything harassment. its for people who have no arguments and are very sensitive snowflakes that probably should not be using the internet in the first place.
