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      Rich people spreading propaganda to advance their interests is the origin of media, and its reason for still existing. There has never been a time when they haven’t owned all the media.

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        So there’s no media, either now or in all of human history, that hasn’t existed specifically to advance the interests of rich people?

        Really?

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    Workers unite! A general strike is solidarity with everyone, except those delinquent bastards who do no work: Boards, CEOs and upper management.

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      The cynic in me says there’s a big overlap between the unemployed and the unrepresented, so to speak.

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        There’s a reason why for the longest time there was a lot of vagrancy (still are) and loitering laws. Was so that the unemployed and homeless couldnt have a voice without making themselves a target

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      “getting”? It’s a basic democratic right?.. You are a democracy, right? You bombed all those countries in the name of it…

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      Well the difference here is that during the election, people had a hard time getting angry at Republicans because they were wrongly* perceived as not being in power due to Biden’s presidency. I doubt a general strike is likely as long as people feel comfortable and employed, but that could change and then I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s some serious tremors.

      *Because Republicans in Congress blocked any new legislation and the Republican supreme court blocked whatever options were left over.

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        Many people cannot afford to not strike. Thousands of workers whose jobs depend on federal funding are uncertain about their livelihood. The coming rise in prices due to tariff nonsense will devastate working-class families.

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    Be prepared! A general strike is scheduled for Mayday 2028, with UAW and CTU.

    SAVE AND PLAN WHAT YOU CAN!

    So that you can strike yourself, and so that you can help your neighbors, your coworkers, your comrades strike!

    We’ve got 3 more years to prepare for ~10 critical days. If we are all serious about it and spread the word, and are truly prepared for the event, our demands and thus our conditions will improve greatly!

    It is up to us.

    Do we choose to accept the working situation we have become entangled in, or are we willing to sacrifice for something better?

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      2028 is far too late. Climate, forced deportation, and widening inequality will have all of us so weak and poor we won’t even survive the 10 days due to malnutrition.

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        That and it gives them three fucking years to prepare for our strike. If the rich do a pump and dump and crash the economy before we do then we’re the ones who get fucked. It also gives them time to prepare the national guard and military which might have clearance to murder Americans domestically by then.

        The sooner the better!

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        Planning it for further out gives people opportunity to organize and save for missing 10+ days of paychecks. It does feel like if we wait that long though we’ll be in a hopeless situation. Maybe organizing smaller general strikes like state or city wide in the meantime would help prepare and buy time for the big one

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          At the very least, take the political cycle and midterms into consideration, otherwise what’s the point?

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            The timing has to do with major union contracts expiring for renegotiation iirc. There are a few really big ones set for the same time which gives a good opportunity for coordinated bargaining across industries

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        Random people posting “General Strike Now!” on social media has been happening for years and nothing ever comes from it. A coordinated action like this, asking people to risk their jobs and go without pay for a period of time, is not going to happen overnight, especially when most people have zero experience with strikes. It’s more important to take the time to do it right so that it has a higher chance of success than to rush into it. This is particularly important as this strike has the potential to serve as a “proof of concept” further down the line. Collective action is always an uphill battle, and for it to succeed requires careful planning, preparation, and patience.

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    Our true power comes from mitochondria which is the power house of the cell. In this house we respect biology.

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    electoral politics DOES get the job done, just not to the same standard as the popular vote.

    The problem is that the people who WANT things to change for some reason, don’t seem to vote.

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      Never be deceived that the rich will allow you to vote away their wealth.

      Lucy Parsons

      Not a single one of our rights has ever been won via electoral politics, they have been won with a great deal of violence against the state and capitalism.

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        violence just happens to be alongside most of the electoral politics, i’m pretty sure we still voted for shit like, womens suffrage, and civil rights. Shit like gay rights as well.

        Activism is an important part of politics no doubt, but to say that not voting and killing people will magically make legislation get passed is just fucking mentally deranged.

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          Women suffrage, civil rights, gay rights, labor rights, all of them had many acts of violence before anything meaningful came of it. Rights are never given, they are fought for with blood, sweat, and tears.

          Violence is the only language the state understands, and unless people speak to them in their language they dont hear a thing. Violence is not just physical, its also mental and economical

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    Same reason they freaked the fuck out when we all had to shelter at home because of COVID. Didn’t last long because they needed meat for the grinder and forced a lot of back to work regardless of the risks.

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        Ask any patient at a VA hospital. If the US calls you a hero, stop whatever you’re doing and run away. Do not walk. Do not stop to help others. Get out of whatever situation they are calling you a hero for being in. They are doing that as a means of absolving themselves of responsibility towards you.

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    Electoral politics can get the job done but the populous is apathetic for various reasons.

    What makes anyone think that people will instead decide to put their livelihoods in peril to accomplish the same thing?

    Vote people!!

    Don’t get suckered in by identity politics and wedge issues.
    Don’t ever vote for a populist with dictatorial tendencies. Especially when that person is a convicted felon, a known liar and a narcissist.

    It is so obvious!!!

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      the populous is apathetic for various reasons.

      Typical lib, refusing to actually look at the core of the problem (like trillions spent on propaganda, state and capitalist indoctrination since birth, people being deliberately kept too busy and burnt out trying to keep their head above the water, people being deliberately taught a whitewashed version of history and deprived of critical thinking skills, and the list goes on and on and on, but sure “various reasons” so easily dismissed and ignored), and instead expects individual to “solve” systemic problems (and I put solve in brackets quotation marks, because liberals, eternal guardians of the status quo, don’t actually want to solve anything, hence the insistence of repeating the same mistake over and over, playing by the oppressor’s rules, and pretending to expect a different result).

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        Typical lib.

        You know you’re parroting nazis, right. If you have a problem with corporate centrists you should come up with a different slur for them.

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          Liberals are a lot closer to nazis than any leftist, and infinitely more willing to work and compromise with them. Libs are the left wing of fascism, a necessary piece to allow nazis to take power, and you’ll never realize that bc you think your politics are 100% infallible and good and flawless

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              From growing up in the US and paying even the tiniest amount of attention to national politics. You should try it some time, or just learn some history from 1930s Germany considering how things are going

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      You’re talking as if liberals didn’t lay the groundwork for everything Trump is able to accomplish.

      You’re also trying to conflate apathy for people refusing to vote for someone that does not represent their best interests. People that say ‘vote’ are usually looking out for their best interests and demand that everyone else support their best interests.

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        Liberals laid the groundwork to prevent Trump from doing far worse. Without courts and checks and balances, Trump would never have left power after 2016 and women, trans people, and minorities would all be literal slaves.

        I agree a general strike will do far more than voting, but don’t lose the plot of what’s realistic and possible in pursuit of your idealism. It’s a problem of scale. A general strike is many orders of magnitude more difficult than winning an election.

        I’ll be there to strike when the general strike is supposed to happen, but until the general strike happens, if it ever happens, you calling for a general strike does zero material good.

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      Vote people!!

      They did. For Trump.

      What makes anyone think that people will instead decide to put their livelihoods in peril to accomplish the same thing?

      Assuming enough people do it, it’s been tremendously successful historically. Hell, we saw what one week of diminished capitalism can do in March 2020.

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    Americans don’t really do anything as recent times have proven. They just kind of sit there on their phones are their country gets overthrown.

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    Isn’t that part of what made the Occupy Movement so threatening to capitalists? The problem was however that it had no direction. The point was disruption, but there wasn’t a clear goal or demand till the end.

    I’m all for memes, but what specifically would a general strike accomplish other than the governing class using every method, including police violence and fear, to immediately try to suppress the opposition?

    In a society where the majority of people live paycheck to paycheck (by design) a 10 day strike will never happen. You’d be lucky to get 5% of the populace to participate.

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      Occupy refused to point out leaders knowing that Fox News would assassinate them in the media. Since they didn’t hand over leaders to assassinate, Fox News ginned up the story that the movement was directionless.

      P.S. Please don’t “akually” about “Fox News” vs “The Media” in this context Its now a distinction without a difference. They’re all owned by the side winning the class war.

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    They have enough money to hold out for 10 days. Your rent is still due, and you’re broke—as intended. Good luck.

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      Sounds crazy, but that’s irrelevant. Understand the cost of shutting down a just-in-time economy. You’re thinking like an individual, not a corporation.

      You’re out of work for 10-days, you’re out of 10-days pay, that’s it. Shut down, say, Walmart, and the logistical boondoggle would reverberate like a fucking shockwave. It would take months to resume normal operations.

      FFS, look at what COVID did. Semis backup up for miles, for days, ships delayed for months. And that was with all of us trying to work and muddle through. After shutting down I-10 for a measly 2-days, I drove past 24-miles of backed-upped trucks once it started again. (There was plenty more, but I was at my exit.)

      The scale of our economy is hard to grasp from an individual perspective, but the owners sure as fuck grasp it. There are factories and plants where stoppages cost millions per hour.

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        10 isn’t enough for long term change. It’s enough for them to realize they need a backup plan.

        If you cut me on the arm I’m going to be shocked, and wear protection next time. But if you shove a knife in my gut and twist, something needs to happen now or I’m going to bleed out.

        We need to stab them in the gut.

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      It’s called solidarity and community, look it up, in fact go learn some actual labour history before you make any more assertions about a subject you clearly know nothing about

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        I’m right that the rich are willing to hold out until we are bled dry. It’s going to take a lot more than 10 days to have actual lasting change. The rich are looking down at us and saying, “isn’t it cute how they starve themselves to make a point, as if their life matters to me at all.”

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        This reply is a great way to alienate people who are interested enough in a general strike to get in a thread and point out questions that literally everyone will have.

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    No, electoral politics won’t ever get the job done, however we’re also long past the point of a general strike being enough on its own.

    Fascism has been here longer than people are comfortable to admit, but it is going in to full blast mode now, and the masks are well and truly off, those in power will not hesitate to use whatever force they need to to maintain it, and that requires full forced self defence in return, not playing nice (which is what a strike is).

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      the american government has ariel bombed its bombed its citizens before. they will do it again. and i will point out the workers who got bombed last time knew that was a possibility. they were storming machine gun emplacements for the right to only work 40 hours a week. our ancestors fought to the death to make our world more survivable for us

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          they were unfortunate to have been born into the time they were, but they also did something incredible: they banded together to work together to forge a new world from the ashes of the old. they took a long view towards the world and made a concerted effort to shift things for the better. they were heroes and inspirations

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        Meanwhile, people today don’t have enough gumption to quit their shit job and try another one.

        Last two perfectly good jobs I left was because they annoyed the fuck out of me. Got a 30% and 50% pay bump both times. Hell, even if you can’t do that, you can at least move laterally.

        Quiet quitting is for losers. QUIT