2 pizzas, a small order of breadsticks, and wanted to splurge and get cinnamon sticks.
Pizzas are a “Buy one get one deal!” at 13 bucks a pizza. Figured what the hell, I’ll splurge on desert then with the deal. Get to checkout… hold on a minute… 50 dollars for pizza?! Wait a minute 80 dollars after fees and taxes?!
Usually I only use Doordash for finding something, then I order direct from the store. I just saw the sweet “buy one get one” deal and thought eh, fine I’m here. Right, that’s why I stopped using door dash. I’m not spending 80 dollars on freaking pizza. I’ll just go pick it up and spend a quarter of that price.
At least I would have saved the $3 dollar delivery fee. Phew. Thanks DoorDash.
Yeah, doordash can gdiaf. Local burger joint only does delivery through doordash, but adds 20% on top of the base price to cover the fees doordash change them (fair enough), then doordash adds the delivery fee they charge me on top of that as well. They double dip on fees by changing both the restaurant and the customer, what should be a fairly affordable lunch when I don’t have time to make something or go out and get it myself would end up being stupid expensive
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Okay, now it’s $74. Now what?
Well it’s a start for savings
Ah yes fuck over the guy trying to stay afloat himself by delivering food
He doesn’t have to accept
Dweebs can’t leave their bubble to actually go pick it up. Fuck these crazy food delivery fees. Fuck the dweebs .
You did it! No delivery fee! You’re so lucky!
Oh hey… Unrelated, but let me get $20 in “fees” please.
Really though, congrats on that delivery discount though, you’re really coming out in top, putting me through the ringer, bud!
'Murica, the land of the fees!
Most pizza places have in house delivery, I won’t order otherwise. Place I order from has a free delivery over $30 which I always get anyways. I gladly tip the guy well in that scenario
As someone who is disabled and known people who are disabled, we don’t have the luxury of going out to eat as it is incredibly hard on us, I don’t use them but if I want to get nice food from a restaurant I really don’t have a choice besides delivery and there’s not a lot of places that do delivery without these apps (and some places hide that it’s doordash and say it’s there own)
For one of the people I knew in the past who couldn’t cook there own food because of there disabilities, they heavily relied on doordash type services and they barley ate because being disabled means your incredibly poor, but this anti human society doesn’t care about disabled people.
Yeah, my Mom is mobility impaired and these services were fantastic for her quality of life, in the beginning. However now she not only can’t afford them, she refuses even if someone else pays - I can send $100 for a meal, it she’s horrified at the idea of paying that for me meal for one person
At least grocery deliveries are still ok in her area
Yeah, every time I think about getting Doordash, they sucker me in with promises of $1 delivery fees, etc. Then I take the time to find out what I want, put it in my cart, get excited, and…then I see the final price.
That’s when I close out of my browser and go preheat my oven so that I can put in a frozen pizza.
Ordered CFA with a friend a few weeks ago, an hour and a half later and it still hadn’t arrived. My friend canceled their order and we drove out to CFA and ordered it in person, it was less than $30 USD. That’s when they mentioned that the new order was less than half of what they were charged on DoorDash.
It blew my mind, they said it was close to $80 for two large chicken nuggets (whatever count that is) with two large fries, an OJ and a large fountain drink. The place was literally under 10 minutes away, they charged more than 2.5x for it, and it hadn’t even arrived in an hour and a half. DoorDash is terrible.
So, you’re a homophobe? Transphobe?
I ask that of everyone who says they spend money at CFA.
Do you buy any product from any corporation that has done anything negative or supported any negative agenda? Don’t be exhausting.
We created a rule, if you want to eat out, you have to be willing to get up and go get it. If you’re not willing to do that, you obviously don’t want it that badly and you can make something at home or do something else. It’s saved me probably thousands of dollars now. However DD is great at showing me what restaurants are around me, I just have to weed out the fake ones. Google has gotten worse and worse about showing me the small places around me.
That’s a great tip for finding new restaurants! I get to waste the middleman’s resources, too! Win win.
It’s even better when you realize they have a ton of metrics, and they are you clicking around to only end up not buying anything. I like to add stuff to my cart, only to walk away so they see that I saw the price and then left
To me, going and picking up food IS the lazy option. I refuse to be lazier than that. I mean, that’s not true. If delivery was free, I’d use it.
These apps will die slowly until the companies can switch to self driving electric cars.
Once they become common/cheap enough that a pizza place can afford one or two self driving cars doing delivery the prices on these things will absolutely crash.
For pizza, I wouldn’t be surprised if it went a step further and the pizza was made and cooked by a robot inside the vehicle while it drives around. Only needing to go restock and recharge every few hours.
Not needing a retail location or almost any staff would make the whole thing super cheap to operate.
In the meantime fuck all food delivery.
How does the self driving car deliver to an apartment on the 6th floor?
Either with their own smaller delivery robot, or buildings will get dedicated delivery robots inside that can receive packages and take them up to particular apartments.
Nah, cos the way the self driving thing will be structured will make it pretty much impossible to actually buy one - they’ll be crazy expensive to buy outright, but you can absolutely lease one - oh but if you are using it for commercial purposes it’s more expensive cos… insurance or something, oh and don’t forget the per-km fees, and the servicing fee, and the battery wear fee, and …
Self driving car companies benefit from more total units on the road compared to limiting service and charging more. It will only take one of the companies selling outright to customers for the entire industry to be forced to drop prices.
The money you’re paying DoorDash isn’t going to the drivers, so I don’t know how driverless cars will reduce the costs. Having driven for DoorDash off and on over the past couple years, they typically only pay $2 per delivery, plus whatever tip the customer gives. I’ve read they additionally charge the restaurants around a 30% commission on all orders, which is why the prices are so much higher than in the restaurant; the restaurants raise the prices so that they still get roughly the same money after the commission is deducted.
I’m not really sure where all that money goes with DoorDash. They clearly try to keep support costs as low as possible. I’m guessing they lose a lot to refunds, legitimate or not. But I still don’t understand how the prices can be so high yet they always seem tight on cash.
Driverless cars will eliminate Grubhub, DoorDash, etc, because it will be cheaper for most restaurants to have their own delivery vehicles again, and you’ll probably see co-op services for smaller places.
Restaurants delivering their own food is not a foreign concept - it’s how all food delivery was done in the ‘old days’. They will jump on the chance to eliminate these gig commissions.
Its surely not the millions in management salary each month…
I wished I could live in this fairy tale world where a driverless car won’t be vandalized/stripped for parts
Like you’d be paying 30 bucks to basically have an unsupervised car show up at your location that’s totally not gonna result in a lot of trouble and cost a shit ton
You say unsupervised, but they have as many cameras and sensors on them than your average military drone at this point. They can (and will) transmit this data live if they detect negative interactions.
It’s not like people don’t have unsupervised access to cars without people in them right now. People park and leave their cars alone all the time.
Gangs of criminals are hacking big companies all the time and stealing or extorting millions of dollars. If they can hack into Amazon or Target they can hack into Uber and steal fleets of self driving vehicles. Just turn off all the data logging and have them drive to a chop shop or even down to the local port and right into a shipping container.
You vastly overestimate hackers abilities.
Most security workers at companies overestimate hackers abilities. That’s why all these companies are hacked all the time and there are tons and tons of data breaches.
The thing very few people understand about hackers is that they can code and they share their hacks as tools with each other on the black market. This means you’re essentially up against the combined effort of all hackers on the black market. When one succeeds, they all succeed. When one piece of server software is hacked, all companies who use that software get hacked.
There’s a difference between grabbing data, and controlling physical systems.
Hackers are not regularly taking over power plants or shutting down manufacturing robots.
They are taking over Internet accounts though. They hack people’s social media profiles, Netflix accounts, Amazon accounts etc. They also take down websites via DDoS attacks.
Here’s the thing with fleets of self-driving rental cars: unlike power plants or manufacturing robots, these cars will be on the public Internet. They cannot be airgapped on a private LAN the way a fixed robot in a factory can.
So all it takes to control these things is to hack into the authentication system and steal the credentials for the master control account for the cars. Then they’ll be able to connect to the cara remotely and issue commands to control them, just as the company would for say, ordering them to return to base to recharge, get cleaned up, or be repaired.
That’s the vulnerability. And even if they put all the cars on a VPN it’ll still exist because hackers can and do steal VPN credentials just like any other credential.
By the way, there has been at least one high profile hack of manufacturing robots: the Stuxnet worm which targeted Iran’s nuclear program. Since a fleet of self-driving cars is going to have millions and millions of dollars in value (tens of thousands of cars on the road) it’s going to be an extremely high value target for criminal gangs. While their resources might not be as extreme as the probable Stuxnet creators, they will be very large (and might even gain state actor support from unfriendly countries).
Who’s gonna vandalize it when everybody biological is confined to their home for safety? Not like any of the interhome bots could ever escape their programming without the police bots disabling them immediately.
I don’t think we will get to a place with self driving cars.
We’re already in a place with self-driving cars. They are operating as taxis in a half dozen cities in North America already and Waymo is expanding to like 12 cities total in the next year.
It won’t happen overnight, but the aren’t science fiction at this point, it’s just refinements.
Perhaps there but the UK I can’t see it.
Your government passed a law last year to allow it starting in 2026
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2024/10/contents/enacted
Perhaps I should have been clearer.
I can’t see it taking off, anywhere really, but here particularly as our roads are very different to American roads so I don’t think they’ll have much success outside of maybe a few limited areas.
I also don’t think we will ever get to a point of self driving being very popular. As you would need to get humans to stop driving really as a mix wouldn’t be very safe.
People said the same thing about cars taking over for horses.
People said the same thing about computers.
People said the same thing about the internet.
People said the same thing about cell phones.
I’m not sure people said those things.
My 1 year dashpass expiring was the best thing to happen to me. Lost 10+ pounds in a month just eating pb&j or pb&banana for lunch. Also saved like $300 a month.
How far away are you??? That is expensive. Normally it’s not that bad. I just went up to 54$ on an order and tax and shipping is only 15$. While it’s not “good”. It’s not bad either.
So I am guessing you either hit a busy period or live drastically far away from the place you ordered.
Me seeing the pic: Oh, doordash just dropped the delivery fee…wait, $50??? What the fuck is he ordering in one meal that I could get a weeks worth of groceries???
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Oh, good. For a second I thought he was an idiot…
I said…2 days before the superbowl…knowing what I’m about to spend…
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You can get a weeks worth of calories plus a multivitamin for $80
With 80€, I get around 2 weeks of groceries in Germany for 1 person… Almost free highest quality tap water, no breakfast, bread with something on it for lunch, something for dinner that results in leftovers for 1-2 days…
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Only if your eat like a monk. That’s 5.71€ per day
Well… I’m not feeling like I’m missing anything… My meat consumption is pretty low by the way…
1 kg Spaghetti = 2 € reduced price
1.5 kg Tomatoe puree = 3.50 € reduced price
Let’s assume 1€ for all the other non-meat stuff you put in there…
Voila, Spaghetti Napoli… This is enogh food for me for lunch + dinner, lunch + dinner on the next day and lunch the day after for only 6.50 € total.
A frozen Pizza is like 2 € (reduced price)…
A large bread is a few €s, but is enough for multiple days…
500 gram Skyr = 1.50 € and is sometimes enough for me for lunch. Add a few flakes and it’s maybe 2 €…
If I’d want to reach the stated 80€ a week, I kind of have to eat in a restaurant or invite more people…
Where’s the vegetables? Fresh lettuce or spinach? Onions, carrots, celery, broccoli, kale, cucumber, fresh peas, peppers, egg plants….
You’re just eating canned tomatoes and pasta. People get more balanced diet than that at the food bank!
I wrote:
Let’s assume 1€ for all the other non-meat stuff you put in there…
Even, if it’s 2€ or 3€ for other people… It does not change the fact that you can create a huge meal for multiple days for a reasonable price.
Even if I consume all the stuff listed by you combined with pasta and tomatoes (as much as a single person can eat), that’s still not 80 $/€ a week for me…
Fresh vegetables are way more expensive than that where I live. A package of lettuce (good for 3 days) costs $4. A package of bell peppers (3 peppers) costs $8-10.
Allocating $1.50 (CAD, about equal to 1€) to vegetables might get me a head of lettuce and a bit of carrot and onion. Enough to make a basic garden salad. Nowhere near enough to make something nice like a rich vegetable soup!
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If you decide to only eat plain tomato with pasta, and that for 14 days, yep that’s possible. You are still eating like shit, and that is far from a balanced nutrition.
I think, it’s quite obvious that I posted examples and won’t write down everything I could possibly eat.
Cooking for yourself and not eating out ever, and my bill from Aldi rarely is above $50, just buy seasoning as you go. I make a week’s worth of food on one day a week, freeze most of it, and then just reheat it in a microwave.
Yup. I’d make a tray of lasagna, in my bachelor days, and it would last me about 4 days. Of course I’d be really tired of lasagna by then lol
Man…I just spent a month cooking chicken, and freezing it. My freezer is FULL of frozen chicken in ziplock baggies. I’d buy 6 packs of chicken, which have 4-5 pieces each. I’d cook 1 pack a night for a week, and on my off day go buy 6 more packs for next week.
Then I’d throw them in the freezer individually in ziplocks.
I work Sunday-Thrusday. So on Friday, I pull 5 chickens down to the fridge to thaw, and that’s ready by sunday. Then every day I just grab 1 chicken to bring to work. Aldis also sell lunch meats, but they have reusable containers. So I bought these condiment cups with sealable lids, fill each of them with BBQ sauce. Put the chicken still frozen in the ziplock into the former lunchmeats tupperware. Then put the bbq sauce up in. Seal the tupperware, and stack them 5 high like that. Then Sunday before work, I just reach in, grab one tub, and throw it in my bag. My bag also has some fruit, and some little snacks inside another lunchmeats tupperware. Just grab 2 tubs. throw them in my bag, and it’s ready for me.
Adulting!
…cries.
All you eat for lunch is chicken? Why not pasta or rice or bread or tortillas? All that chicken could make a ton of frozen burritos or chicken pastas or stir fries to eat with rice!
Where can’t you?
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Na dude you can totally get a balanced diet for 80 bucks a week for 1 person
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$50 for a week worth of groceries? Either you are posting from 2003 or the developing world.
What are you eating that is costing more than $50 a week? You buy a loaf of bread. $3. 3 or 4 packs of lunch meats. Call it $12. Pack of cheese singles. $3. So you’re up to $18. You now have sandwiches for every lunch this week. Now buy 1 pack of chicken, varies between 10 and 12 dollars for 4-5 chicken breasts. Let’s call it $11 for 4. That’s $29. Grab a box of cereal. Call that $3. Up to $32. Grab a pack of porkchops. Usually 4 in a pack for about $10. $42. Grab 2 bottles of pasta sauce, $8. And a pack of spagetti for $3. Now grab a bag of potatoes, call that $6. And a bag of oranges, or a bag of apples. $6. Grand total $65, and I even went overboard. That’s like a week and a half, but I’m also assuming your kitchen is totally empty. Otherwise, you might only need 1 bottle of pasta sauce. You might already have half a bag of fruit left from last week. You might still have half a box of cereal left. I also said a LOT of lunch meat for 1 week.
On top of that, I bought meals for every meal. I don’t eat 3 meals a day. I eat 1. Sometimes 2. Today I’ve had 0, and I am hungry, but it’s also bedtime within an hour. So I’m just going to wait until I wake up.
Real talk, do you eat your cereal with pasta sauce?
I just fist it staight from the box.
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You can definitely get a week worth of groceries for that in the UK or Europe. Nothing fancy, only ingredients, but good nutritional food and enough of it.
You can do that here in the US too (for now). But the pre-packaged junk food is really expensive and that’s what people want.
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I will always get a good laugh at people who are shocked that private courier services are expensive.
“Oh shit I forgot my passport at home and my flight leaves in an hour!” “I’ll uber it over!”
Is the only time I’ve used Uber and felt like it as worth it and necessary, not for food. Just bite the bullet and eat crackers and ramen for the night or walk to a nearby place
If you can make multiple deliveries each trip then home delivery could be more efficient, but it’s hard to see how it could be cheaper than picking the meal up yourself.
They do make multiple deliveries per trip…
Occasionally. I regularly see uber eats drivers picking up single orders from restaurants.
Where I am you’re almost never the only delivery.
I had a friend who did this for a living, he had two phones so he would run Uber Eats and Doordash at the same time in order to try and optimize, and even then he spent a lot of time just sitting around because these apps are extremely inefficient (and later they started cracking down on people trying to increase their pay by doing both, dunno if it’s still doable now).
It feels like a problem that needs to be solved by a centralised entity, but whoever that is will most likely monopolise the situation.
I think this problem will disappear once drones delivery is common. Flying twice as much food uses about 2.5x more energy.
When I delivered pizza and BBQ(different places) that’s what we did. Load up 2-4 orders and delivery range was like 15 miles. The pizza place was always busy but the BBQ only did delivery during lunch and dinner. Now you can order a coffee from Pete’s 20 miles away at 7am. Some things don’t make sense to deliver and no one wins.
I mean, it shouldn’t be that expensive. Where I live basically every pizza and fast food place used to offer free delivery. Nowadays because of delivery services this has died out a bit, but it still exits, yet ordering through the delivery services is way more expensive.
I honestly don’t even get it, because for a long time the delivery services were operating at a loss, not even sure if most of them are in the plus even now, yet they should be more efficient than every fast food place having its own drivers.
I use delivery services because restaurants have terrible phone service. It’s always their cousin Mumbles who answers the phone, surrounded by people banging on pots and pans. He doesn’t read my order back to me to make sure it’s correct. He doesn’t tell me how much it’s going to be. He doesn’t tell me how long it’s going to take. So I have no idea if I’m going to get the right food, if it will be the right temperature, and if I have enough cash to pay the driver.
And there’s no way I’m going to give out my credit card info to some guy I don’t know.
I don’t order delivery, but I do order pickup, and I like when restaurants have online ordering using the same system they use in the restaurant. It’s common with restaurants that use modern PoS systems like Toasttab. Prices are the same as if you order in person, since they don’t have to also pay another third-party (DoorDash, etc).
It would be awesome if ordering systems had a standard API, so I could order delivery directly from any app
The pizza place has free delivery because the cost is built into the pizza and people who pick up at the store pay that even though they don’t get delivery. Using a private delivery service they charge more because they don’t get a piece of the ‘pie’ so you’re basically paying twice for delivery.
Except there’s a local market price for that pizza. If your pizza is on par with a pizzeria two minutes away and doesn’t do free delivery, you can’t charge more. You’ll lose all your pickups to them.
Except that other pizzeria two minutes away isn’t only pricing it’s pizza for walk-ins either, it’s offering free delivery to steal the customers further away from the other pizzeria. They both would have the charge built into their pizza, so it’s irrelevant. Unless that pizzeria doesn’t do any delivery at all, in which case the first pizzeria doesn’t have to worry much as it has all the business for people who don’t want to come in and pick up pizza.
This only makes sense if they are trying to grow and customers are rational actors at every purchase point. Neither is true in this situation. And it’s obvious because there pizzerias that have delivery fees in the same marketplace as ones with free deliveries.
Your pizza/chinese food that have in house delivery dont give 10% discount for picking it up? Thats weird
I will always get a good laugh of corporate bootlickers that can’t distinguish expensive from robbery.
Are you on drugs? Please share.
2 pizzas from lieferando in my country cost 30€
They too are a private Courier.
Actually no. Lieferando just offers digital menus and orders. The drivers themselves are employed by the restaurants. And the Lieferando fees are hidden (paid by the restaurants).
Luckily my favourite pizza place now has their own website that works better than Lieferando’s and all the proceeds go to them.
It might be the case that restaurants have their own drivers, but Liefefando has drivers too.
See for example this Add (in German) looking for drivers
And the Lieferando fees are hidden (paid by the restaurants).
Restaurants pay DoorDash, Uber Eats, etc. too - it costs them 30% of the order price. So the restaurant pays a lot, and the customer also pays a lot. I don’t understand how people are comfortable with this business model.
I don’t use doordash and I don’t like the business models that are in practice with many of these types of companies
Does this pizza place not have their own drivers? If they do you’re already paying at least 30% more because of the DoorDash surcharge. Also, judging by the dashers who pick up from where I work, there’s a 60% chance they don’t have an insulated bag and you’re getting cold food.
