23 nazis disagree with this lol
Drove all the way to NYC to see them with Run the Jewels after the pandemic. 100% worth it, one of the best shows I’ve ever been to.
Tim Commorford is weird to watch though. He kinda hops awkwardly from foot to foot.
It’s so disappointing to hear Killer Mike spit revolutionary lyrics like in ‘close your eyes’ only to find out IRL he’s into lame shit like black capitalism.
Yeah. The music still slaps though.
RATM’s bassist is into some weird fringe right-libertarian stuff too if I recall
Nobody’s perfect 🤷♂️
or they changed. 30 years is a long time.
their debut was released
- 3 years after the fall of Berlin wall
- a year after the dissolution of USSR
- 9 years before the September 11 attacks
- 15 years before iPhone
- 24 years before the election of a reality tv entertainer/real estate conman as POTUS
- China wasn’t a superpower back then
- EU didn’t exist in its current form
- Apartheid was still an actuality
- internet wasn’t omnipresent
How was China not a superpower then?
They were easily a superpower since before they were backing Vietnam and Korea in our shitty wars with them.
China’s GDP was lower than Canada’s. Economic strength is not the only factor of a superpower, but it’s significant. It’s hard to project power effectively without sufficient wealth to fund those efforts.
Fair enough. How many resources did the US waste in Vietnam and Korea fighting someone who was not a so called superpower?
Quite a lot. The US did the same thing in Iraq and Afghanistan too. Who cares about who the enemy is or how many people die if they military industrial complex is making bank?
A country doesn’t need to be a superpower to project some power, but very few rise to the level of global hegemony. I think China is probably in the superpower tier today. The belt and road initiative is classic economic hegemony shit.
In 1944, during World War II, the term was first applied to the British Empire, the Soviet Union, and the United States. During the Cold War, the British Empire dissolved, leaving the United States and the Soviet Union to dominate world affairs. At the end of the Cold War and the dissolution of the Soviet Union in 1991, the United States became the world’s sole superpower, a position sometimes referred to as that of a “hyperpower”. Since the late 2010s and into the 2020s, China has increasingly been described as an emerging superpower or even an established one, as China represents the “biggest geopolitical test of the 21st century” to the United States, as it is “the only country with enough power to jeopardize the current global order”.
Apartheid was still an actuality
So you’re saying nothing’s changed?
anybody from South Africa to reply to this?
or is this about the apartheid in Israel/Palestine?
Nothing’s changed.
South African Blacks 40 years ago had it no worse than they do today.
Killer “pro-cop” Mike?
only to find out IRL he’s into lame shit like black capitalism.
Does it mean something other than what is here, or did I miss something offensive in skimming through the entry?
This isn’t one of those lame “now they are the machine” posts is it?
I saw them in Cleveland on that tour. Zach had hurt his foot so he sat on the monitor speaker the whole time, but the rest of the guys made up for it.
I paid a LOT of money to get good tickets, and it was 10000% worth it. I’d never seen rage live and figured I might not get to again, so spend the money. Also I’m an rtj fan.
Yeah, I think the Madison Square Garden show was one of the last ones they did, Zach was hobbled up good for it.
Super worth it though, I was in the same boat. Show had been rescheduled 3 times but we committed lol
I was at the Chicago show where he hurt himself going pretty hard.
Actually got it on video too
After he sat down for the rest of the set he sounded amazing. Great show.
Whoa that’s crazy you caught it.
Props to him for not breaking his flow, a true professional.
But also, Zach you’re not a spring chicken anymore, gotta dial it back some!
I wish they hadn’t canceled the show here in Seattle. Zack broke his arm and since they are old, he wanted to take time to let it heal. I waited three years from the initial scheduled show for it to be canceled.
We cannot accurately judge your dedication until you tell us from where you drove to NYC. New Jersey and Anchorage have very different weights here.
Honolulu
Why are all of their songs still relevant 30 years later?
Good example:
Renegades Of Funk
https://tidal.com/browse/track/23682737?uThat one’s a cover actually! It’s even older :P
The original is very different than that RATM version (as expected), but very good as well.
Because the problems they raged about are systemic, and the system didn’t change.
It did change, though. It got significantly worse.
Because we never eliminate the root cause
It’s easier to imagine the end of the world than it is to imagine the end of capitalism.
Because those that work forces are still the ones that burn crosses
The same reason socialist theory is still relevant 150+ years after it started
I didn’t know they were so WoKe!!
Because humans are fucking stupid and history always repeats itself.
The problems are systemic and the humans in the system are incentivized to perpetuate the system.
Its not stupidity.
Humans or Americans?
All of this has happened before, and all of it will happen again.
Until conservatives and authoritarians stop getting their way.
Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.
A few weak men are indeed making very hard times
The problem with this quote is that everyone thinks they’re the strong men. In other words, it’s mostly useless rhetoric that doesn’t really identify the problem.
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“The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the Age that gave it birth comes again. In one Age, called the Third Age by some, an Age yet to come, an Age long past, a wind rose above the great mountainous island of Tremalking. The wind was not the beginning. There are neither beginnings nor endings to the Wheel of Time. But it was a beginning.”
So say we all.
Because things have gotten worse in the intervening 30 years?
Because nobody actually listened to and took seriously what they were saying 30 years ago.
Fun fact: After 9/11, various songs evoking 9/11, such as ‘Learning to Fly’ by Tom Petty, ‘Stairway to Heaven’ by Led Zeppelin, ‘It’s the End of the World as we Know it’ by REM … all banned from airing for about 120 days.
Oh.
And literally everything from Rage Against the Machine.
Other fun fact about this?
This censorship wasn’t done by the FCC.
It was done by ClearChannel, aka iHeartRadio, aka, the corporation that now owns or controls basically all terrestrial radio stations.
https://www.kerrang.com/here-are-the-164-songs-that-were-banned-from-american-radio-after-9-11
Warpigs is still banned by Clearchannel
Wow.
I did not know that.
Hooray for the enshittified cyberpunk dystopia.
Save a life, punch a nazi
I preferred them when they weren’t so political.
/S obviously haha. I’m currently cutting a stencil that says “Nazi lives don’t matter” to make some shirts.
lol
Man, screw RATM. They’ve sold out. They did a bunch of anti-Biden crap because of the Palestine shit. Look what that got them.
They also arguably lost Florida for Al Gore which caused him to lose the election.
More like Rage For The Machine.
Dumb take.
What do you mean by Palestine shit? There is a genocide happening there right now, fuck Israel.
And now Trump is going to turn Gaza into a resort lol
And you know what he’d do to get that done…
Honestly. The Israeli government took it farther than what happened to them. And they call it a genocide. Because they are projecting their insecurity they have for performing their own genocide on the GAZA People.
Did you mean to put those words in that order?
…what??
It might help your comment if you replaced some theys and thems with the actual people you’re referring to. It’s very unclear whether you’re talking about Hamas, the Israel government, the Palestine people living in the Gaza strip, the Israeli people, etc. There’s a lot of different groups involved in this conflict, all with their own history and motives. It’s important to be clear about who is doing what.
I see how that looked off now. But yes. The Israeli government has gone far too far in their destruction of Gaza and its people.
Wait… Tom Morello is waging genocide on the “GAZA People”?
They are likely against both parties.
One Day As A Lion is a 2008 Zach de la Rocha side project that’s definitely worth a listen if you haven’t checked it out.
Fuck Nazis
Rage 2022 in Cleveland.
Which one of the 2 buildings was this in?
RoMoFiHo
The band is great but sometimes it’s sad to see how Morello sells his T-shirts on Instagram. Mostly they’re boring shirts (not much effort for the pictures or texts) and selling them so eagerly seems like some pretty capitalist shit.
You don’t need the shirts to exist, but he needs money for food and shelter. Would you rather he book private shows for elites?
It just seems pretty ironic that first he posts on Instagram (big corporate social media) stuff like fuck the system and on the next post he says that buy my T-shirts! Where are those shirt made? Probably on some cheap factory with bad working conditions. I also think that he gets pretty much money from the gigs etc. So he can manage without selling shirts. But yeah I agree that you have to make money to live in a system you are even if you oppose that system. Maybe there’s more nuances than I see. But with a quick look it seems pretty ironic as I said.
30 years later and more relevant than ever… That’s not a good thing. Continue to rage.
Nazi lives matter a little. You can tally them up to keep score.
That still only counts as one!
That’s why you take the ears to help count.
300 nazi scalps
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As suggested listening following RATM, may I suggest American Idiot by Green Day. You may find similar themes in that album.
Any other suggestions on how we can fight fascism by giving money to record companies?
The band you are looking for is Fugazi. Totally pure in their resistance to destructive capitalism.
This is the way.
So what have they done besides sing a few songs so that people can think that they’re making a difference by listening to their iPods?
And no, I’m not going to listen to them. I’m boycotting American products wherever I can.
I have personally seen the guitarist knock a racist out with his guitar. So that’s something.
Not to mention the art they created certainly did more good than the average keyboard warrior trying to call music meaningless.
Who said you have to buy anything? Are you new to the internet?
Love that slogan.
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