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Good thing this showed up in my feed as I’m waiting to board a plane. Wish me luck!
You alive bro?
Yeah. Been stuck at LAX for the past 6 hours waiting for my second flight. The first plane we boarded here had to be brought back for maintenance to deal with a “funny noise” coming from the landing gear. Bullet dodged successfully! So far…
Stay safe bro…
🤞
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Made it. Landing was a little dicey due to high winds, but nothing scary
It looks like this is being filmed from another aircraft (big pillar in the middle of the window). Why was this pilot filming, it seems like they’d see planes landing all the time so was there something special about the landing - bad weather perhaps …
Dude was coming in way too fast and way too high.
Some pilots just really love planes
I think you’re probably right.
Tricky landing in shitty weather. Just filming to share in group chat as in “look at this shitty weather we have to take off in”. Something like that.
Shitty weather? Are we watching the same video?
Yes? Do you not see the ground covered in ice and snow and the strong winds kicking it up? Not exactly GOOD weather to be taking off and landing in
Yeah it’s really unheard of in Toronto and unexpected this especially this time of year. Ice and snow. Looks like wind speed was about 30 to 40 miles per hour. Seems like they would know better than to attempt to land outside the parameters of the aircraft.
I genuinely don’t know if you’re trying to be sarcastic.
The linked article mentions the wind.
You can’t estimate wind speed from this video.
None of the passengers mentioned mechanical problems.
It’s reasonable to conclude that the guy was filming the landing because the weather was particularly inclement.
Who said I used the video to estimate?
It’s hard to estimate from the video why the other pilot was filming the landing.No one said you used the video to estimate, I just assumed that no one would be stupid enough to think that a weather website can tell you the windspeed of that particular gust at that particular location.
The pilot was experiencing the weather because he was physically there in person, not watching a video.
I’m genuinely curious to know why do you think the pilot was filming?
In conclusion:
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Bad weather for planes
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Average (good?) weather for Toronto as this time of year
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I think I see the problem…
The way the nose and tail jiggle when it hits the ground looks like a hard landing, but the glide slope isn’t that crazy. I’m betting it was a freak gust that stalled the right wing just after the flare, causing the right gear to collapse.
knowing how much planes weigh… and I have only been in a plane a few times, but does that not look like it slams down way too hard? feels like coming down that fast could break the landing gear.
Yeah, they usually don’t jiggle like that. However, the plane was very stable prior to that and on what looks like a normal glide slope.
One thing I just learned is that there was a pretty stiff crosswind, so they had to yaw to the left to straighten out. This normally means the right wing gets a bit more lift so you compensate with right stick to keep it level.
A wind gust at the right time would have caused the wing to not gain lift and the aileron correction could have sent the wing into the ground.
Flip? Ehh. Rollover. Barrelroll.
Yeah bro fuckin rolled for a mile and a half fucking hell
Sector whiteout leading the pilots to forget to flare? Unlikely but maybe?
Other theories:
- ILS system interference due to other aircraft causing ILS to report slightly higher height than reality
- Wind shear
I reckon not because they are flying visually by the time they reach the minima. I do like the theory of them not seeing the runway with it being so white with snow, but then don’t they have RADALT counting down their height?
Eh, speculation feels almost conspiratorial with what little info we have. The ntsb will figure out the last time the captain farted and whether that had any effect on the crash, so I’ll just wait for their report.
Haha yeah true it could be anything. Luckily because everyone lived so there will be good information
Why the fuck were they filming?
You’re right, this does seem suspicious. It was probably all staged by that guy.
People like to hang out at airport viewing areas to watch planes land, and some film them. It’s fun. I’ve done it a few of times, though admittedly I didn’t film them.
Edit: Though actually this is filmed from another aircraft, it seems. Maybe filming because of how bad the conditions were? Not sure.
Yeah, that’s not very typical. l’d like to make that point.
The side fell off.
Well, there are a lot of these jets going around the world all the time, and very seldom does anything like this happen. I just don’t want people thinking that jets aren’t safe.
Yeah but they do seem to be rolling over into unsafe territory a LOT more lately……
I’m not saying it wasn’t safe, it’s just perhaps not quite as safe as some of the other ones.
Want safe? Elevators.
Are you saying that isn’t normal?
Well, I was thinking more about the other ones.
What other ones?
Well, some of them are built so that the wing doesn’t fall off at all.
Well wasn’t this one built so that the wing wouldn’t fall off ?
Well, obviously not.
Man, I don’t know why but I assumed it flipped forward to land upside down like that truck in The Dark Knight. Could not fathom how people survived. Still hard to imagine how nobody died, but I was picturing it so differently.
Seatbelts people!
I CAME IN LIKE A WREEEEECKING BAAAAALLLLLLLL!!!
Little ding at the end of the video, pilot turns on the fasten seatbelt sign.
That’s why You don’t unbuckle the seatbelt until the pilot says so.
Ugh. Yes, this. So many people unbuckle right after touchdown and struggle to keep balance when standing during taxi
I’m no air crash investigator, but I’m pretty sure someone turned off flight mode.
Lol, there was one case of a passenger who ignored instructions to put on seatbelt, and ended up being the sole survivor because he got thrown out of the plane right before it exploded.
Like… imagine surviving because you ignored safety instructions 🤣
poor guy
Having watched a Mentour Pilot video, I am an expert on plane crashes. The problem is that the part that’s supposed to be on the top is now on the ground and that part on the bottom is now on top. You have to keep those in the right positions for a safe landing.
New head of the FAA over here!
They’ll be let go next week.
Too qualified.
Chief pilot, Mjr. Poopington
Having watched a Mentour Pilot video, I am an expert on plane crashes.
As the #OfficialNumberOneFan of the Mentour Pilot channel, I too, am an expert in aircraft incidents and accidents. 😆
I read this in Norm Macdonald’s voice. Thank you for the chuckle
I read it in Kelsey’s voice, and then after your comment I re-read it in Norm’s voice.
Thanks for that.
I should watch the Norm Show again. So good
Fellow expert speaking: Their problem was that they should have been watching 74 Gear. He ends every single video with, “Until then, keep the blue side up.” I’m honestly a little bit excited to see how he addresses it when he starts out the video about the time they forgot to keep the blue side up.
I have once seen half asleep an episode of Mayday. I can confirm that these two are technically correct, the best kind of correct.
lol OPs know we need to wait for Hoover at Pilot Debrief too.
And to be even more actually serious, Blancolirio has a video about this out now with a good plausible explanation.
