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Brösche, 26, never made it to LA. She’s been in federal immigration custody since Jan. 25 — the day they tried to cross into the United States through the San Ysidro Port of Entry.
Brösche had her German passport, confirmation of her visa waiver to enter the country, along with a copy of her return ticket back to Berlin, Lofving said. A U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) agent pulled Brösche aside for a secondary inspection.
She didn’t know it then, but it would be 25 days before Lofving would see her friend again. Brösche would spend that time in federal detention, where she remains, waiting for a deportation flight back to Berlin.
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You’d have to be downright r-worded today to want to visit USA. Not this woman, I mean every one who comes after her.
As an American, I would recommend that folk reconsider travel to the US during the current administration. There are no longer checks and balances and it’s a very dangerous place at the moment. They’re removing all accountability for the border patrol and any immigration adjacent services so they can now do whatever they want. You’re at the complete mercy of the immigration service and they have full latitude to do whatever they want (legal or illegal) as the threat of repercussions have been removed. Be safe out there.
While this is true, people travel to Dubai and to Thailand and to Egypt (maybe not much recently) and, well, to Turkey.
Accountability and checks and balances in countries listed are such that the former two are technically absolute monarchies, so in that regard worse in skeleton than England after Magna Carta.
One difference is that Egypt and Turkey have a lot of tourism, so they tend to be quite tolerant towards tourists. You don’t want to scare off potential customers. The US seems to forget that.
Thanks. The US is the last place I wanted to go anyway, I don’t want to support genociders.
My university sent out travel warning announcements about the US to all students and staff through email and matrix last week. Basically warning everyone, especially queer people, that you should expect complications or unjust treatment when traveling to the US. Kinda crazy that some german university takes this more serious than the US democrats take the end of their democracy.
And these police that have you at their mercy are pm selected for being dumb, and anyone who wants the job just wants the power to harm people. Also they get like two days of training before being given a badge and a gun. When they abuse their power, even when they murder people, they have next to zero accountability.
Don’t come here. Most of Central America is fantastically beautiful, welcoming, and safe. From what I understand Canada is as well (I’m not allowed in the country) but it’s cold there much of the year.
I would go. But i’m not crossing the border legally lmao no fucking way.
Yeah. I have friends who are wanting to come to the US. “It couldn’t happen to me, I’m white” they say. “I’m from Europe, I’ll be safe” they say.
No.
It’ll happen to them, and I’m scared because they refuse to listen.
Send them a link to this story.
I did.
CBP agents at the border accused Brösche of planning to violate the terms of the visa waiver program by intending to work as a tattoo artist during her trip to LA
Oh wow, a visiting artist might come do some art, fucking arrest her!
Jesus fucking christ the sociopathic cowards running these ABC agencies are dumber than shit
Hey, on the bright side she has an opportunity to make a sone money. Either through a potential lawsuit (doubt.) or the smarter option: oil on canvas artwork of her experience in the detention center. Her story is global now and the notoriety may boost the sale price.
Work doesn’t stop being work because it’s artistic.
If you violate your visa you can get deported, that’s pretty normal globally and does involve an arrest. It’s only exceptional because of the inhumane conditions of detention facilities in the US and because she was arrested immediately instead of being denied entry or educated on the restrictions of the visa. If she presumably told CBP she was intending to violate the visa waiver she probably thought it was acceptable for some reason.
“Why yes customs agent, I am intending to perform work in exchange for money while in the US on a tourism entry permit” -Privileged and naive white tourist used to the Schengen area about to dive face first into a poisoned spike pit that was meant to catch brown people
The problem is the spike pit, not really the person diving into it making headlines because they happen to be a white woman.
That’s a reason to deny entry. Not a reason to detain her. If she was in the US and needed to be deported then detainment would be required.
Yeah, but she didn’t violate it yet. We don’t arrest and detain people for what they might do(excluding threats to national security). Well at least on paper.
I agree that the tattoo work is still work, and I’m not implying you think she was rightfully detained. But if you are, she wasn’t. If you’re not, then this comment is to add context.
We don’t arrest and detain people for what they might do(excluding threats to national security). Well at least on paper.
The “excluding threats to national security” can be very flexible when you purposely do not define national security.
It’s the goddamn plot of Mexican Joker from South Park happening in real time
Sue Sue Sue. Take them all down and take them over the coals for every cent you can get.
Sueing everything and everybody is such an American thing to do.
She’ll be glad to get the fuck out of that shithole and never look back.
I don’t want to be mean, but I think it’s a bit naive that a German citizen would be able to sue the US gov with the current checks and balances
What checks and balances?
If every year we ripped the richest person on earth into pieces like a piñata and spread their wealth around, do you think they would still pursue enough excess money to break our global economy?
I don’t know but I’m sure as hell willing to try!😂
I’ve visited the US a couple of times for work.
I’ve been very careful with my wording when they’ve asked if I’m there to work.
Yes, I’m there for work. I’m employed in the EU, and I’m just there representing my employer at a fair or technical meeting. I’ll be gone in a few days.
My colleague didn’t have the same way with his words, but back then they’d just put you on the next plane back.
That’s still supposed to be the thing. Denied entry, the next flight back or walk back across the land border.
“business” used to be the right way to describe it . Then if asked you’d elaborate.
Yeah, I’ve been to the US for work-related training and it’s the same. You must emphasize that you will not be working as an employee while you’re there, or they assume that you are.
She didn’t even do anything. They just took her aside because they thought she might use her time to work in the US. What the fuck is wrong with those people?
I bet she’s attractive to the people who detained her. Why would they separate her from her friend.
Give people power without accountability and this is what happens. Every single time. That’s what the rule of law is about and that’s why fascists hate it so much.
Commenting to emphasize this.
The very idea they didn’t just turn her around proves how evil these fucks can be.
Maybe they just forgot
Don’t travel to the US. As a foreigner it’s literally like traveling into an authoritarian regime. When filing for the visa they ask for all your socials, opinions, etc. Some immigration officers will go through your phone on arrival. It’s grim.
And this is just a story that made the news out of sheer luck. Imagine how many more innocent people are locked up or worse.
In Norwegian, live in Denmark and work for a Danish company, who also operates in the US. If my manager were to say, it ask, if I can go to the US office for work, I’ll say no unless I get a really fucking good life insurance while I’m there. I don’t want to go to the US for whatever reason.
Nordic countries > EU countries + Switzerland > Oceania > rest. Unfortunately, I have to admit it as a German.
I was refusing to travel to the US for any reason, even before this latest insanity. Would I trust the average human being with a gun? No.
Then why the fuck would I go to the US, where any person can buy a machinegun from Walmart? Where multiple times every year there are mass murders with guns, even in schools?
Okay, a mass murderer might have to illegally travel through some states with said machinegun (if I went to one of the more reasonable states where they aren’t sold/allowed), but it’s not like there are checkpoints between borders. I doubt a mass murderer would care if their gun was illegal in the state they planned to shoot up. Insanity. I’m not sure why any reasonable person would have travelled to the US before, but now…?!
Just a point of order, we’re not selling machineguns in Wal Mart yet. I have no hope of stopping such a future though. The court case against the machinegun ban is already moving to the Supreme Court.
I heard its okay to ignore laws in the US now and just dare someone to stop you. Or is that rule only for the orangest of them all?
You do indeed need to pass the orange test. They hold a Florida Orange up and if you aren’t at least that shade of orange you have to abide by the law.
Not sheer luck, but because she’s german. Germans haven’t been mass migrating to America since the 60s at the latest and her detention is a change from the norm of us mostly only doing this to Latin Americans, Caribbean folks, Middle Easterners, and Africans
It’s certainly notable because of that, but her Germanity isn’t what led people to finally locate her - what the article outlined was a series of fortunate events.
So Eastern Europe is not in the list? Just askin
Nope, they aren’t brown enough to be on the list.
I have no idea. We don’t get enough of you for it to be a thing we really talk about
They don’t talk about it because that’s not the colour of immigrant they’re worried about. Europeans make up 10% of all immigrants living in the states - the 3rd largest region group after those from the Americas (52%) and from Asia(31%), which you also didn’t mention above.
Africans and middle eastern people are on your list of talked about immigrants because they are the right colour for the media to complain about despite making up less of the immigrant population in the states.
Imagine how many American citizens are sitting in these camps and will be deported to some other country as Trump tries to eliminate due process and rob them of their day in court.
And this is just a story that made the news out of sheer
luckwhite privilege.
Things have been like that way before Trump. You only see, sporadically, headlines like that, when Europeans are affected. Oh well
I don’t think this is concerning because an European is affected. It is concerning because is happening to a tourist that clearly was going to return home, that the conditions in these centers are terrible for everyone there, and that at least some of these detention centers are run by for-profit private companies. It is no secret that the immigration system in the US is broken and is pretty much inhumane. It goes beyond who is in the White House, and speaks volumes on how broken the American society is.
Brown or Asian people happening to them weekly: 😴 🙄
One white person happening to them: 🫨 😡
As the saying goes, Fascism is colonialism turned inwards. We’ve been doing this for decades now, it’s only scary because it’s happening to milquetoast white people.
Maybe this gets people to wake up a little more about the situation we’re in.
I’d wager this is all because of some innocent comment she made about her tattoos and the agent jumped on it. Just like a cop, the agent was probably being friendly to get her to talk and got her to admit she did some tattoo work the last time she was there. Remember everyone only answer direct and relevant questions, anything else they ask is just trying to find a reason to screw you over!
Once the German embassy is getting involved though, she should have been released immediately but it’s clear this administration likes the power trip too!
Even the garbage about not letting her go back to Mexico is crazy, I know they do that all the time without proof of residency. This agent definitely had it out for her!
Even a few years ago, maybe 2017, I was at JFK airport and lady somehow was getting off a plane from London and couldn’t find her passport, the agents got worked up but released her after some kind of back and forth where she had to appear with her passport in a couple of days (or something). Somehow the passport was in her luggage that had been checked in, IDK.
The German embassy is useless. I’m telling you this as a German citizen. I’ve heard horrible stories of people being let down even in conflict zones. The German embassy didn’t even reply to many people asking for help to leave Lebanon once Israel invaded. There have been cases of German citizens with Arab names being held in immigration facilities in Israel and the German embassy hasn’t done shit.
I would not even fly to the USA right now, if I would get paid to do so. This country turned from one of the most attractive targets into a total shithole within weeks.
The US stopped being an attractive target to me the moment they fucked over Iraq.
to be fair, it was not an attractive target before either for a long tim, independently of the president. CBP and ICE were bad people for a very long time now, and that’s not even the only problem
Her scheduled flight home was Feb 15. They could literally have escorted her to the airport at that point and have been done with the case.
This is ridiculous.
Trying to find a solution? Let her fucking go home. It’s not difficult
