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Donald Trump just imposed a 25 percent tariff on virtually all goods produced by America’s two largest trading partners — Canada and Mexico. He simultaneously established a 20 percent across-the-board tariff on Chinese goods.
As a result, America’s average tariff level is now higher than at any time since the 1940s.
Meanwhile, China and Canada immediately retaliated against Trump’s duties, with the former imposing a 15 percent tariff on American agricultural products and the latter putting a 25 percent tariff on $30 billion of US goods. Mexico has vowed to mount retaliatory tariffs of its own.
This trade war could have far-reaching consequences. Trump’s tariffs have already triggered a stock market sell-off and cooling of manufacturing activity. And economists have estimated that the trade policy will cost the typical US household more than $1,200 a year, as the prices of myriad goods rise.
All this raises the question: Why has the US president chosen to upend trade relations on the North American continent? The stakes of this question are high, since it could determine how long Trump’s massive tariffs remain in effect. Unfortunately, the president himself does not seem to know the answer.
In recent weeks, Trump has provided five different — and contradictory — justifications for his tariffs on Mexico and Canada…
…more in the article.
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I never liked that many seem to be of the idea that Trump is an absolute buffoon who doesn’t know what he is doing. He and his goons are not headless chickens. They are not stupid, and know incredibly well what they are doing and why.
You don’t get to win an election twice if you’re as much of an idiot as most make him out to be. If we keep underestimating our ‘opposition’, we will continue to be defeated.
See this article for more: https://unherd.com/2025/02/why-trumps-tariffs-are-a-masterplan/
TLDR:
In this article, Yanis Varoufakis analyzes Donald Trump’s economic strategy, arguing that it is more sophisticated than his critics assume. Trump’s focus on tariffs is part of a broader plan to reshape the global economic order, which Varoufakis describes as an “anti-Nixon Shock.” Trump believes the U.S. has been exploited due to the dollar’s role as the global reserve currency, which he sees as a burden rather than a privilege. He aims to weaken the dollar to boost U.S. manufacturing and reduce trade deficits, while maintaining its reserve status to fund U.S. deficits and military power.
Trump’s plan involves using tariffs to pressure foreign central banks to lower interest rates, thereby depreciating their currencies relative to the dollar. This would offset the price increases caused by tariffs on U.S. consumers. The second phase of his strategy involves bilateral negotiations with key countries, leveraging tariffs and security threats to force them to appreciate their currencies and make concessions, such as buying more U.S. goods or relocating manufacturing to the U.S.
Varoufakis acknowledges the risks, including potential domestic backlash from Wall Street and the possibility of foreign countries, particularly China, creating an alternative financial system. However, he argues that Trump’s plan is coherent and should not be underestimated, even if it diverges sharply from traditional economic thinking.
That’s definitely someone’s opinion of what they are doing. I think he’s fallen victim to looking really hard for a plausible reason for emotional behavior. Trump and his admin seem more hell bent on gaining leverage in order to increase greatness and power over others and eventually profit. They aren’t looking to save or kill the dollar or reset the economy. In my opinion as an uneducated person they want to deregulate then tank the markets to create an environment where the wealthiest will buy up the discounted assets and profit when the economy swings back. Nothing more than a shortsighted opportunity to consolidate power and wealth, the same way he is trying to consolidate power into the executive branch.
I’m shocked that more people don’t consider a change in perspective on global economics. It’s been clear for a long time that the existing system is unsustainable.
The thing is, I don’t doubt there is an actual reason why these plans have some more intelligent purpose behind them; I doubt that Trump is the one thinking of this. I’m of the belief that Trump has a bunch of yes men around him that are smart and able to coerce him to do these things through careful manipulation strategies and feeding into his ego.
The project 2025 people already had every executive order and move lined up ready for him. No understanding required .
I don’t doubt the reputation of the writer or his general knowledge of economics…
But this is coping. The Trump administration is trying to wave their hands around and create a giant fuss for people like us and this writer to speculate on and create debates and panels to think about… while he and his people simply walk out of the white house with the treasury and all the inside investment opportunities they will ever want.
He’s just making chaos, plain and simple. These ideas about his master plan to disrupt the world’s reliance on the US dollar? Distraction and coping.
I agree this administration is more clever than we give them credit for, but any house thief can step up their game and pull of a heist when they set their mind to it, it’s not some kind of magic skill. If anything, I think it’s harmful to assume Trump is at all smart or has a plan because this makes a lot more assumptions than the most simple answer which is almost always the correct determination. He is making a mess because his ONLY plan is to make you think he has a plan. He does this with literally everything he says or announces, why would anyone think this is different? This is EXACTLY the fucking delusion I was railing against in another comment. There is no plan. Nobody is coming. Stop thinking others are smarter than you or have a backup plan.
My evidence? We’ve done all this fucking before, this is part 2 of a failure of a presidency. He didn’t change the world before, he won’t here. (Other than diminishing the US role in geopolitics so Russia can take center stage, all he really wants right now)
Dude that makes no sense at all. He wants to depreciate the dollar by putting on tariffs, an action you yourself admit depreciates all OTHER currencies, thereby increasing the value of the dollar?
Then after that he’ll “negotiate” to have the other countries to appreciate their currencies? By buying US goods and companies?? Both of those things appreciate the US dollar. China has been selling their goods to the US (something which should appreciate their currency) without appreciating their currency by buying property and companies in the US so they never have to use the US dollar to buy their own currency. This increases the value of the dollar while decreasing demands for the Chinese currency. This has been widely seen as unfair currency manipulation by China.
Things that increase demand for US dollars such as buying US goods and investing in the US APPRECIATE the value of of the US dollar. I haven’t read the article yet, but I hope your summary is incorrect, because Varoufakis is generally a very intelligent left wing thinker and I would be surprised to see this kind of gaffe in basic economics.
Edit: here is a link to the article since the one above didn’t work for me.
https://www.yanisvaroufakis.eu/2025/02/21/donald-trumps-economic-masterplan-unherd/
While tariffs would work against Trump’s plan (by deppreciating foreign currencies) they give Trump revenue he can spend with congressional approval. Then for the countries that make a deal he’ll either force them to appreciate their currencies by swapping US dollars for their own currency (to depreciate the dollar), OR make them buy very long term US bonds (stabilizing the US debt markets) and buying US weapons (diluting the cost of US military R&D). Trump hopes this lets him depreciate the dollar while keeping it as a reserve currency (having his cake and eating it too).
He had the idea to raise tariffs, and he believes all his ideas are really good, so he followed his own good advice and raised tariffs, dead simple.
Because republicans want to fund the country entirely from tariffs instead of taxes.
Which worked out great for every country that has ever tried it.
Just my opinion as a layman: the tariffs give his corporate backers all the excuse they need to jack up prices even higher.
yup, it forces everyone to raise prices, including competitors.
And when he takes the tariffs off, the prices never go back to the original starting point.
That, plus it seems very likely that he and friends are just manipulating the market to trade on the predictable moves he’s causing. Ya know, the kinda stuff that earned Musk some mild hand slaps and theatrical pearl clutching (in addition to giant financial benefits) in recent years.
It’s basically how Musk got rich. Intelligent market manipulation.
That’s a weird way to write inheritance.
Musk didn’t inherit billions.
How much was his dads gemstone mining business worth?
Less than a billion dollars.
Do you actually know how much it was worth though?
Intelligent market manipulation.
Not really intelligent, just blatant. He bet on the US and the NYSE enforcement mechanisms not actually working, and he won the bet. Same with Trump, except he bet against the US constitution.
It really feels like the kids of the people who carefully destroyed the checks and balances in the US and created a world order where they can quietly pull strings took over, and the kids don’t understand the value of discretion and are just seeing what they can get away with.
But he was also intelligent. He presumed that the bulk of money out there is comically dumb money, and he played that mass to his benefit. I remember watching 5,6,7 years ago how he would deliberately make Tesla stock look bad in the short term, to lure in suckers to short with high leverage, only to promptly reverse it, destroy the shorts and use their capital to make a new all time high. All while perpetually rewarding those who just hold and trust the man at the helm.
If this method sounds familiar, it was also used by the Tether clan to propel Bitcoin. But with a healthy dose of freshly printed fake money as well.
Agree, inflation can theoretically increase not only prices, but wages to compensate the increased cost of living, therefore appear as a boomed GDP, bringing the debt to GDP ratio lower without actually reducing debt. Eu, china, Russia all have much lower debt to GDP. Of course in reality inflation is hard to manage once it gets out of hand, and the levels of interest rates don’t give enough space for corrections, and the problem of inflation being the reduced consumption leading to a lesser increase of GDP.
GDP is always calculated in nominal and real (inflation adjusted) GDP.
Inflation does not reduce debt to GDP by increasing the perceived GDP, but by devalueing the debt owned, as it is a fixed sum with usually interest rates fixed for a certain time
He is a Russian asset and has been since at least 2014
Yeah. Dude knows exactly why he’s weakening America as much and on every front as possible, it’s just he can’t exactly say the truth and isn’t smart enough to effectively lie about it.
He has to be. I can’t think of any other reason why he’d be trying to hard to antagonize and disrespect long-time allies, while praising Russia. He then made that ridiculous statement that Ukraine started the war, when Russia was the one who invaded them, and also said that Zelensky should be ‘nicer’ to Putin. But Putin, who ordered the attack that caused who knows how many deaths, shouldn’t be ‘nicer’?
There was also the first term, where Trump fired the FBI director over an investigation into Russia, and then told Russia that he fired ‘that nut job’. What kind of message does that send to their own people? Not just that he fired the director, but that he bragged about it to the people he was investigating.
I honestly think most of the GOP knows, but they’re too embarrassed to admit it. Or maybe it’s just pride, they think it’s beneath them to be held accountable to anyone.
Market manipulation. He is also a TV show host, so he is a showman. He likes creating drama.
He is famous for bad management, causing his casinos to go bankrupt. His management style is going to bankrupt US and somehow make him richer.
Why can’t we make him unalive? He wouldn’t be able to play with WWIII that way…
Or just watch him bankrupt USA just like his casino, I think US need to go through that pain to realize why they should not vote for a showman, TV show host again.
Sun Tzu: “Never interrupt your opponent while he is in the middle of making a mistake.”
Sun Tzu I should read/listen to him much much more …
Actually in his previous presidency he managed to lose personal wealth rather than increase it. He is so incompetent he can’t even enrich himself with 4 years of being president lol.
Trump’s ‘beautiful’ tariffs are just ugly taxes on consumers and businesses alike.
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Techbro led gvmt - move fast, break stuff. Chaos leads to opportunity to profit, by which I mean him and his class to profit.
Am I the only one surprised at how low the cost per household could be? I keep thinking it should be quite a bit higher.
Apparently It’s supposed to get rid of the browns and the gays and the women and everyone else until it’s just a bunch of old white men sitting around, counting money, and masturbating to AI porn? Kind of like a hateful gross version of Scrooge McDuck.
Spooge McFuck
Stoolge mcduck
Stooge McCuck
It seems to be working, I signed my ticket out of here. I’m a brown and queer woman. Just need to survive until immigration goes through.
Godspeed friend, hope this place will be worthy of you again someday
If you don’t mind, how are you pulling it off? Just trying to get ideas too.
Work transfer through my day job. I will note I’m taking a 50% pay cut for this, but the mental security and new friends will be worth it
Scrooge McDuck was also pretty awful. They had to invent a nemesis for him, Flintheart Glumgold, just to make him not seem so bad by comparison.
Donald is in indentured servitude after all. Gnarly man.
Nah, he’s a inbred golden retriever, that Russia and musk owns
I was talking about Donald Duck. This made me laugh though. Thanks for brightening my day.
Uhm something something illegal rapist immigrants high on fentanyl. I’ve got tee-time in 10.
This is just disingenuous.
Lookup trade balance with each one of these. EU, china, Canada and Mexico and all of these are majorly disbalanced
You’re an idiot
It looks imbalanced until you understand that you guys are the only ones manufacturing dollars
And everyone knows that global economics is a zero-sum game, and therefore a “trade imbalance” means “we’re losing.”
So fucking dumb. Simple-minded fucks.
So explain it
The US has a trade deficit because everyone wants dollars, even though the US keeps on printing them. You basically get free stuff and complain about it ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Putin said: “go forth and break shit” and here we are.
Also Putin, " say I’m not a bad person"
yup. it’s successfully costing america its allies.
It’s not inappropriate though. I’ve been saying for years Canada should not be so closely allied with such a fickle country.
It’s part of their plan to eliminate the IRS and federal taxation, to be replaced by a universal sales tax. However, trump doesn’t have the authority to do that. But he can tariff. And a tariff is a little bit like a sales tax.
Therefore, we get tariffs.
Now, the other problem is that the tariff revenue is going to be like 1/10 that of the IRS tax revenue, which will require a 90% reduction in federal spending. Including defense, research, healthcare, and social security. Can’t collect social security tax if the IRS doesn’t exist either, so social security is getting axed.
It will of course make 56 million seniors homeless, but thats a small price to pay for a 15% pay bump for me!
I don’t get the $1200 #… If every component of my purchase goods is 25% higher to the manuf passed to me, shouldn’t it be 25% of my annual spend?
Not every good is imported. Not every country has tariffs leveed against it.
They are tariffing imported raw materials as well, like aluminum and steel.
25% on top of the old price, for goods not produced domestically. Assuming that’s all of them, that’d be 25% of your spend going towards products (Services are part of your spend, but don’t get tariffed), indeed. But some things get produced in the US, so I imagine they factored that in there. For the average household, this seems to amount to about $1200/a
Well until you buy a car. So that $40,000 suv is now $50,000
Not arguing with you, just want to point out 25% is the new tax but that doesn’t mean the price is only going up 25%.
