cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/57576884
There’s so many ways to interact with the Fediverse. The most popular, by far, seems to be Mastodon, but Lemmy, Misskey, and Pixelfed are also relatively popular. Kbin used to be popular, but it has apparently been abandoned, and is mostly dead at this point.
I recently learned that Mbin is a thing, checked it out, and it looked really cool! Has anyone used it? How different is it from Lemmy? I hear they have better integration with Mastodon.
What Fediverse services do you actually, regularly use?
For me, it’s mostly Lemmy, though I do hop on Mastodon every now and then.
Mastodon, Pixelfed, Lemmy and Bookwyrm. They all seem to cover most of my social media needs which (in all other cases beside Lemmy) can be described as shouting in the void and being happy if someone else is there too.
(in all other cases beside Lemmy) can be described as shouting in the void and being happy if someone else is there too.
Yeah, I get this, to be honest.
Though, I do feel the same way with the centralized social media platforms. I mean, if I make a Tumblr post, I’m really not expecting people to see it. If I just Tweet, as opposed to Tweeting at someone, I don’t really expect engagement either… YT videos, Instagram posts… Unless my friends and family use the apps — which is another issue altogether, since I could try to get them to join — I just shouting in the void.
I think it’s the lack of theme. Lemmy makes you post with the theme of the community you post to, so it’s kind of implied that your posts will reach people that are interested in what you posted. That’s kind of how tags work on Mastodon and Twitter, I guess, but it’s not quite the same thing.
I mainly use Lemmy (infosec.pub) and I sometimes use Mastodon (mstdn.plus).
Rebased
Mastodon
Akkoma
Soapbox
Lemmy
I also have Lotide accounts but I don’t use them very much. I also have an emergency alt on Nostr which federates via Mostr but IDK if y’all are counting that as being part of the Fediverse.
Also Kbin was superceded by Mbin
Lemmy and Mastodon.
You can definitely find solid content outside of tech and politics on Mastodon, although the scope tends to be more limited than what Twitter used to be (no idea what state it is now).
Need to check out BookWyrm.
Bookwyrm is awesome :)
You can definitely find solid content outside of tech and politics on Mastodon
I think tags are under-utilized, to be honest. Follow #caturday and chill.
Need to check out BookWyrm.
I tried it out about a year ago, but I think that sort of thing just isn’t for me.
Forgive my ignorance but i dont see mention of Bluesky? I beleive thats also fediverse?
No, Bluesky is a centralized platform, literally twitter 2.0. The Fediverse’s main selling point is the opposite.
But there are different servers, similar to Lemmy?
AT protocol is different than Activity Pub. They do not allow instance control and freedom (you can t really call this federation) , it is not real decentralization if you dont allow users spinning their instances and federate with the rest.
It very much is not Fediverse. They use a federated protocol, but not ActivityPub, which is the Fediverse’s protocol. They use AT Protocol instead, and they’re the only thing using ATP, by the way… That should tell you everything about how “federated” they are.
While there are different servers, there’s a dependence on central nodes. The simple existence of central nodes is antithetical to decentralization… So we’re really not talking about the same thing at all here, with BlueSky vs the Fediverse.
Mastodon, Lemmy, Goto Social, Pixelfed, Bookwyrm.
Peertibes default no federation thing is too frustrating for me to deal with
Mastodon and MakerTube
…And Lemmy?!
Lemmy and Mastodon. Only lemmy really interests me. I got pixelfed and bookwyrm too, the latter seems pretty good replacement for good reads. I don’t see myself posting just to myself on pixelfed. I also find mastodon very difficult if you don’t want to talk about Linux or American politics. I absolutely do not get the point of friendica and think the low MAU shows that no one wants Facebook 2.0
I absolutely do not get the point of friendica and think the low MAU shows that no one wants Facebook 2.0
Quite frankly, I don’t even want regular Facebook…
That’s just my point! Facebook but federated is still facebook
Mostly Lemmy for me but sometimes Pixelfed. I’m also a psychopath and browse “everything” with all NSFW filters turned off while at work, so I’m probably not a good judge.
That is actual insanity yeah, I have NSFW turned off even at home…
I open the links too.
Blocked and reported. Get out of my feed. /j
I know, I’m a mad man. But I stand by my principles of seeing boobs at work.
I’m an Mbin user.
Mbin is a fork of kbin. Kbin’s dev didn’t really trust people much, so he wanted to have sole control over what code gets added to kbin. Which led to issues when he wasn’t available and development just came to a halt for months because no one could accept changes anymore. The other devs wanted more control so they could actually get shit done, so they decided to fork the project instead.
How different is it from Lemmy? I hear they have better integration with Mastodon.
I think the biggest difference is really the fact that you can subscribe to not just communities but also users. This is where the superior Mastodon compatibility comes into play by allowing us to see posts that don’t mention communities. Lemmy only sees Mastodon posts if they mention a community explicitly or an Mbin user has interacted with it.
There’s also other stuff like public upvotes, boosting, tags, reputation (karma), and custom community CSS. I don’t really know Lemmy well enough to give a full list of where they differ.
I’m not entirely sure what makes “subscribing to users” different from following people on social media. Can you explain?
Oh, that’s what I meant. And Mbin calls it following too. I just said “subscribing” because it’s the same action behind the scenes, just different terms to refer to it, and I was using “communities” first in the same sentence.
subscribe to not just communities but also users
Ah got it. Context threw me off I see what you mean now
Is there plans for an Mbin mobile app?
There’s Interstellar which is made by the admin of my instance. I don’t know if the Mbin devs have plans for their own official app.
I’m an Mbin user.
The Fediverse is pretty cool… Hello, Mbin user!
you can subscribe to not just communities but also users.
Oh, that’s interesting.
Not sure what the point of public upvotes is, or what boosting is, but tags and custom CSS sounds cool. How’s my Mbin karma?! IDK if that’s how it works… I’ve signed up on your same instance, I’ll see how it goes.
Thank you for your comment!
How’s my Mbin karma
It’s 2500~, but it doesn’t affect anything on Mbin, so there’s no point worrying about itThanks! Yeah, I have no idea how that’s even calculated or whatever so… If it doesn’t even affect anything, I don’t see why I would care lol
It’s basically the same as Reddit karma, it’s just the sum of upvotes+downvotes you got
If it doesn’t even affect anything, I don’t see why I would care lol
Same, idc, but some people care about it. Also piefed cares, I think it puts a red icon in the username of the users with negative reputation and their posts start with 0 upvotes instead of 1. (If I’m not mistaken)
Meh, I suppose!!! Thanks for the info~ :D
It’s basically the same as Reddit karma, it’s just the sum of upvotes+downvotes you got
There’s one difference: boosts give you +2 reputation points.
Not sure what the point of public upvotes is,
Well, you can see who upvoted something. kbin also allowed seeing downvotes, but that got removed because of worries about harassment.
By looking at who upvoted a specific post you liked, you can find like-minded people to follow. I also find it cool to see the different instances and platforms the upvotes come from.
Boosting is a bit complicated. It’s supposed to be retweeting basically, and does work that way under the hood. Posts boosted from Mbin do appear that way from Mastodon. However, I don’t think Mbin itself currently treats boosts as more than just an even more public upvote (with regular upvotes you can see who upvoted a post, not what posts a user upvoted; boosts are publically listed on profiles).
Hmm I see.
Not sure how much use I’d get of public upvotes, personally, but boosting/re-posting seems like a genuinely nice feature.
Kbin’s dev didn’t really trust people much, so he wanted to have sole control over what code gets added to kbin
The developer of Kbin is an absolute genius and Kbin was one of the most beautiful and original things ever done in the Fediverse, with a hybridization between microblogging and threadiverse like never seen before. It’s a real shame that he ended support for Kbin, but I think he got burned out…
I think the biggest difference is really the fact that you can subscribe to not just communities but also users
This is an added value, but it was also a critical aspect. The fact of having allowed to follow users and not only communities (magazines) has determined a significant slowdown of the server.
Furthermore, this great added value of joining microblogging to threadiverse, does not make the interface very easy to read. This was taken sic et simpliciter from Mbin, without further developments. Perhaps, if the original developer had remained active, he could have taken the responsibility of making some sensible changes to the Knin interface…
Lemmy, Sharkey (like Mastodon but with more features), and WAFRN (the fediverse’s Tumblr alternative)
You’re a mime?! That’s so cool! :D
Yes i am! :-) thanks.
Only Lemmy. I could never find anything interesting on Mastodon and hate the Twitter-based format.
Same, same, and same.
Understandable, really. I follow the #caturday tag and a comedy account called @[email protected] so my feed is lovely.
Lemmy, Mastodon and Pixelfed. what I like about the last one is that I managed to find enough accounts posting pictures that I like, that I pretty much get to press like on everything I see on my feed there.
You know, I think image-based social media just isn’t for me… I already use Mastodon as that, pretty much… It’s my cat image generator, but with the benefit of also occasionally including some news and memes. Lots of people love Instagram though, so I’m sure there’s a market there.
Other than Lemmy, I’ve got a self-hosted and federated Matrix instance. I don’t actually do much with Matrix at the moment, it’s mostly the result of me tinkering with self-hosted services. I did recently bridge it to Discord, and I’ve let my friends know it’s a potential alternative if Discord continues going down the shitter.
Discord continues going down the shitter.
How so? And what do you mean bridge Matrix to Discord?
Mostly referring to the recent rumblings about their potential IPO. Once shareholders get their hands on something, it’s all downhill.
Matrix supports “bridges” for a number of third party services so you can keep in contact with friends who haven’t made the transition to federated services.
Cool :D Thanks for the link, I’ll definitely be checking that out~
Once shareholders get their hands on something
We’ll see I guess…
