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The US has rejected a Canadian proposal to establish a task force that would tackle Russia’s so-called “shadow fleet” of oil tankers, according to reports last night.
Canada, which has the current Group of Seven presidency, proposed the measure ahead of a meeting of G7 foreign ministers in Quebec later this week.
In negotiations to agree a joint statement on maritime issues, the US is pushing to strengthen language about China while watering down wording on Russia, the reports said.
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I mean apart from the logic of sanctions, those shadowfleet boats are “environmental disaster” ticking timebombs. They are not very safe or seaworthy.
Some of them have extreme strange huge anchors, which tend to drag 100 km across the oceanfloor and mysterously break critical communication cables in Europe and so. Others have dubious highend technical devices on board.
Nice detail is that somehow they end up being owned by a Hong Kong Ltd.
They’re basically modern privateers - acting on behest of their leader nations, but with public deniability. Every once in a while I wonder what it would take for a Nemo-type character to show up, commandeer a submarine, and start stalking/hunting them.
Nice detail is that somehow they end up being owned by a Hong Kong Ltd. - Riddick3001
Just out of interest, where did you hear that the boats from this shadow fleet are registered by a company in Hong Kong? There would be some irony if China would use this as the final excuse to take over Hong Kong, to “clean up the mess” that Hong Kong companies have been causing internationally.
He needs to be impeached and the shitheads he’s put in removed.
Why don’t they just move ahead with the plan regardless of America? The US has made it pretty clear they intend to depart NATO, and so the rest of the organization may as well just move forward regardless of what the US says.
The US position here is “We are rethinking our position here, and thus can’t get involved in any new business,” which to me is fair. Regardless of how anyone feels about their decision to leave, if they’re deciding to leave, it makes sense to not start something that will keep them involved.
Why don’t they just move ahead with the plan regardless of America?
It’s in the article. G7 is about consensus. Doesn’t mean other parties won’t have their own plans.
It used to be G8. Then Russia got kicked out for… Invading Crimea!
Now that the US wants to join Russia in carving up Ukraine, it is due time to make the G6
The G7 has been compromised. EU had best work without the US now. The US is now led by a maniac who likes Putin, and wouldn’t blink at betraying all the US longterm allies.
The G7 has been compromised.
Unfortunately, that’s probably true for the whole world order.
I want to hope that the new one will be better, but oftentimes history tends to disagree with that notion. Yet I’ll remain fighting for a better tomorrow.
Unfortunately, that’s probably true for the whole world order.
That’s fortunately for us here down in the global South. Let the oppressors (which Europe also is to be clear) fight each other and leave us alone. Sucks for Ukraine though.
The US is led by Putin.
The US is led by Peter Thiel. Putin is there for convenience.
With a South African court jester dancing around to distract attention
A showman TV show actor Krasnov Trump and a S.African nazi court jester Elon… what could go wrong.
Traitor.
America
Correct. Nice to see headlines reflecting the complicity of the nation.
Fuck you, fix your country before we all die.
Fuck you.
You act like it’s an America problem and not a billionaire problem. Where do you live that you think the same billionaires don’t own you too?
We need to transcend nations before we all die and a handful of oligarchs have power forever.
Lmao Don’t act like people from the US didn’t vote for exactly this. This is an America problem. Through and through. FAFO
I love that you invoke FAFO and clearly don’t see the irony.
btw, you’re acting exactly like the magats do.
good luck staying in that ivory tower.
Lordy what ivory tower? Lmao.
How many decades has the united States told other countries how they are the shining beacon on the hill? How long has the US put their finger in latin America? How many more American guns need to come into my country.
You all were told that electing that idiot into office would have horrendous outcomes, not only for the US, but for the world. Y’all did it twice. Hence the FAFO
Americans absolutely did not vote for this! You call an election where one man can pay out a quarter billion - legally - a fair election? Do you think 90% of Russians vote for Putin too? We’re cooked and getting more cooked. Point and laugh and act like this isn’t bad news for the world.
Voted for it twice. C’mon now. This has been a long time coming. Trump-phenomenon didn’t happen overnight or in this last election.
And I’m not pointing or laughing. I didn’t learn English because it’s fun, I dreamed about living the American dream. I believed in the US. I grew up on GI Joe. It’s sad actually. I remember when the USSR was the enemy and now y’alls UN vote is aligned. The US soft power has plummeted.
Did you mis the part about how it is a single >>NATION<< that veto’d the shadow oil fleet ban? So obviously a nation is the problem here, and of course the billionaires who have taken control of that nation.
It’s just a mask at this point. As soon as all the public services are privatized, along with military, and elections can be bought, what is a government at that point? Where is the distinction if they’re all paid off by the same people? At this point it’s become a sport for the ultra-wealthy to just buy countries like a sports team. Trump is even wheeling and dealing to buy other countries, this is how shallow the meaning of nation has become. America: sponsored by Musk and Thiel.
You are right, but as citizens in nations, we can only demand solutions at the national level. Right now in that regard the problems are with the oligarchs in Russia and the oligarchs in the US, and they have control each of their respective countries. We are very well aware that there are rich assholes willing to play to Putin’s tune in many of our countries and that they are financing opposition parties considerably.
We keep limiting ourselves to just citizens in nations, we’re going to keep repeating the same patterns nations repeat. Genocide still happens, war still happens, and the collective problem of climate change looms large. No one nation, not even America, is a match for the power these corporations have. We have no newspapers, free press is close to dead, and we’re uneducated. Anyone pinning their hopes on America figuring anything out doesn’t know how misinformed we are. If we can’t come together now, when we’re finally all connected, with the ability to instantly translate each other’s words, is it crazy to think we can do a little better?
一会儿回来，通过WhatsApp建立国际世界秩序。你那边有自动翻译吧？
oligarchs in Russia and the oligarchs in the US, and they have control each of their respective countries
When oligarchs in russia behave like Musk, they soon fall out of the window.
Putin is the biggest oligarch in Russia.
If you’re waiting on Americans to storm the capital, then you’re going to have to wait until a Democrat wins the presidency again.
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Just kick them out already, america can get fucked
Please keep us on the newsletter though so we can rejoin when the adults resume control
Trust is gone. At least from my perspective as a Canadian
Can’t say I blame you! I lost trust in most of my fellow Americans long ago. But, some of us are decent.
My mom was from New Jersey. I have a lot of family there and only one cousin is MAGA. I know most Americans are ok but if this happened now it could happen again.
Oh, as long as we have gerrymandering, I guarantee that it will continue to happen again. That is why my wife and I had been on our way out of the country permanently for over a year. But, unfortunately, ran into some unexpected roadblocks for now.
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing,"
Well, I had a chance to vote against it in my state this year. Unfortunately, I lost this one.
not only gerrymandering but voter suppression, plus thier constant rigging never gets challenged, or even investigated.
For sure. And shitty ass candidates.
Oh I don’t think we expect you guys to trust us at all for a long ass time.
When the adults come back we just want to make sure we can bring the rest of the country up to speed. It gonna take a long time and a lot of restructuring to build trust again
The United States as we have known it for all of our lifetimes is dead, adults will never steer that ship again. There are certain portions of it that may be reasonable and trustable allies again at some point. But the current form of my country will never return to reason. I genuinely hope you don’t think we’ll have free and fair national elections again
we’re gonna have to join as a legally distinct new nation
i’m sure musk will give us our voting records in order for us to share with everyone during the vetting process.
God fucking damn that rapist traitor and all the shitheads that put him there.
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Blyat!
So can we dump the USA from the g7? Make it g6
create a new coalition of G6 let US stay in G7 alone.
This is why veto shouldn’t be a thing.
Please kick us out of the G7! Turn off our power. Tariff everything. Make us hurt - that is the only way we will get rid of trump. Once social security goes away people will finally realize what is happening
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On one hand yeah fuck the US we could do with being knocked down a bunch of pegs. On the other I worry desperate people are easy to control. It would create a very strong “us vs the world” vibe that fascists love to take advantage of.
