• My_IFAKs___gone@lemmy.world
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    As a bonus for contracting measles, you’ll get all your previous vaccines and earned immunities deleted by the measles virus attacking your immune cells dedicated to remembering how to effectively fight past pathogens.

    So you can think of measles as THE antivaccine. No wonder the antivaxxers love it so much!

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      also convinced govt of somoa to stop MEASLES VACCINATION, resulting in 86 children deaths. also drove his former wife to suicide.

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    If only there was some way we could train our immune systems to fight off Measles without having to actually infect ourselves with it. That way an immediate immune response could keep the disease from ever taking root to begin with! I blame those fucking scientists for not thinking of this already, they’re probably too busy making fake climate change scare articles. /s

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      What if we only get, like, a little bit of measles? Like if I touch someone with measles very quickly. Just enough to get a small non-dangerous amount that is hardly noticeable by me but enough for my immune system to learn to fight it? Is there a possibility that that would work?

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        What if we just, like, gave you a little part of the measles? Like whatever’s on the outside of the virus, so your immune system can just know to attack that?

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          I think those were the first “vaccines”. Cut open a forearm and put some measle scabs from someone else in there. I could be completely wrong here though.

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            that would variolation, aka smallpox lesions. i think measles dint have a vaccine until decades later. because its mostly respiratory virus.

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            It was using secretions from cowpox lesions as protection from smallpox. Cowpox is a similar, but much less dangerous pathogen, so it conferred some cross-immunity without risking actual smallpox infection.

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        I heard about him from a Behind the Bastards podcast a few years back. I knew he was a dumpster fire and was really surprised/not surprised he got a position.

        Surprised because he’s an idiot. Not surprised because it’s par for this administration.

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    I wonder if widescale immunity reset could lead to a resurgence of something like polio which we’ve almost eradicated.

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    I’m still optimistic the lifers at HHS who stood firm and didn’t resign are just slowly teaching Lil Bobby what a vaccine is:

    While RFK Jr. recently shifted his stance to concede that vaccinations are actually pretty useful, he has still stopped short of urging skeptics to go and get it. And in an interview with Fox News’ Sean Hannity that aired Tuesday night, he appeared to still favor natural immunity through exposure to the virus.

    "It used to be, when I were a kid, that everybody got measles. And the measles gave you lifetime protection against measles infection,” he said, then taking a swipe at the vaccine. “The vaccine doesn’t do that. The vaccine is effective for some people for life, but for many people it wanes.”

    Like, he is damn close to understanding a measles vaccine is measles, just a hindered version that won’t be able to reproduce and cause harm. And real close to understanding the need for booster shots.

    He’s still not there, and it seems to be taking weeks for what can be covered in depth in 15 minutes.

    But eventually I hope they’ll win him over.

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      This is how I feel RFK jr has always operated. He does/proposes/thinks progressive things right up until it really goes off the rails. Like, he argued there are medical biases against Black Americans (very much true and well researched), but then segued into the COVID-19 vaccines being medical experiments on minorities and tried to discourage vaccination that way. He usually starts with a good cause but inevitably drags it into conspiracy territory. Also someone is sanewashing his Wikipedia article because there’s a lot of his bullshit missing from a few months ago.

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        That is not true.

        It’s not all sunshine and rainbows anywhere in the fed right now, but there’s always ways to fight and this is the biggest

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      I’m really confused about his statement.

      I mean, let’s assume he’s right, and let’s assume that a vaccine only protects you for, say, 20 years. Just measles induced encephalitis alone has a lethality of 0.1%. How many cases of anything more than a mild fever did any vaccine ever cause? He’s not even claiming it’s causing autism or death or transformation into Space Godzilla. So why not just vaccinate? It’s stupid even in his own world.

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    At what point do we get to demand hazard pay from our employers for going into the office?