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It low-key reads like one of those “lonely singles in your area” ads.
Yeah, I good with the message, but that’s one of the most uncomfortable looking photos I’ve seen. Where are they supposed to be looking?
I too enjoy the freedom to think my thoughts!
And as far as I’ve seen the numbers it’s working too. Anywhere in Europe that is academic or sciency is seeing record numbers of Americans applying. The brain drain will be real.
It has already been happening for several years now, it’s just accelerated since Trump. Even before his first term there was a “negative brain drain” of educated workers no longer coming into the US because the benefits (paid time off, health care, etc) are so much worse compared to other countries, even when considering the higher pay. America used to rely on a steady stream of incoming highly educated workers.
But now there is a huge amount of well established academics leaving for Canada, EU, or anywhere else that will pay them. I work in a physics department at a large R1 university in a very liberal state, and we are losing 4 (that I know of) high regarded professors just this year alone moving to other countries.
The brain drain is here, and won’t be reversing course even if Trump suddenly disappears. We would have to completely change how we reward work and our failing healthcare system for anything to change.
Makes sense. This is doing decades of damage. Plenty of past groundbreaking research came out of the US. But I get it. I wouldn’t want to move to the US either for very much the same reasons. Lack of affordable healthcare, lack of paid holidays and gun safety would be the main reasons. Lack of food regulation would also be a concern. And now the current regime and the way too large chunk of the population that still seems happy with it means we put even tourist travel plans to the US on hold. Too scary at the moment. Trying to help the best I can from here, but there’s only so much you can do at a distance.
It’s already happened in Florida and Idaho at least, Idaho lost a huge amount of medical professionals thanks to RvW and state passed open ended and vague laws. Florida lost just about all their teachers DeSantis is stuffing schools with sycophants with little to no education and no teaching credentials. We’re already losing.
All numbers I’ve seen for record applications were for high level research and university level teaching. Maybe the medical doctors mainly moved states? At least I haven’t seen them making headlines about moving to Europe.
Many are leaving teaching all together, it’s a huge problem that’s going to have far reaching consequences for a lot more than 4 years. While they might not all leave the US, they are no longer teaching or practicing medicine in hostile states, Idaho has been forced to shut down hospitals and medical services.
Here in rural CA we’re also seeing medical access dwindle. A lot of things people don’t realize have changed are very drastic, being older I remember not even needing to think about buying produce and inspection it for bugs or rotting. Now, you have to check, and if you aren’t washing everything before you put it away from the store you are getting bugs. It’s gonna happen reliably, many services and newly built things seem shotty and badly done. We have been running out of competency for some time now, and if you’ve been alive long enough were clearly in decline.
Man I just love being undesirable in every country due to my beliefs, lifestyle, or lack of a degree.
All of these things can change
Very few people can operate a transporter, though.
You make a good point, I’ll have to see if there are any practical applications in Europe or Canada.
Explain the “beliefs” so I can judge you.
I believe that my gay neighbors should be able to grow weed in their yard and if you diss our trans homies, we might get violent before we bother asking nicely for you to leave, and if you refuse then the guns are coming out. Armed minorities are harder to oppress.
Judge away.
Oh I see, a teenager, at least you have all the time of the world to get a degree.
You’re off by a few decades, but sure.
You might be chronologically old AF, but you talk like an edgy teenager.
Yet only one of us seems to spend a lot of time on lemmy shitting on others for no reason. Weird.
Have a nice day.
My daughter is about 2 years from graduating high school, and even before Trump came into office I was urging her to consider non-US colleges. Mostly because she wants to go into medicine and our healthcare system has been broken for much longer than I can remember. But also the rise of Fox News (and others) getting away with stating provable lies as fact, Joe Rogan, et al. showed that there has been an inflection point and the country is being led around by the dumbest of us.
She’s fluent in Spanish, though jumping straight into a medical program would introduce a lot of new specialized words, and might be to much. We’re starting to look into options though.
Medical English is largely stripped-down Latin, I wonder how similar medical Spanish is
The technical terms are very similar. The only issue would be the colloquial terms.
We interact with people from numerous Spanish speaking countries as part of an intern program, and the one thing every new group says is how funny each other’s slang sounds to the rest of the group. She might have a rough month or two, but then I think it would be fairly smooth after that.
I mean English is sorta the science lingua franca so I imagine most of the technical words would be lone words if they showed up in a paper first.
*loan words, as they were loaned to the language in question.
I interpreted it as meaning lone words as in only a few here and there.
College introduces a lot of new words in general. It is what it’s for, plus, she will be in pre-med. Go for the Spanish route. She will flourish. :) Spain is so lovely. I hope I can land something there next.
Very true. If she’s up for the challenge I really want her to do that. I’d love more reasons to go to Spain.
Ugh, Spain is amazing. I dream of that country.
Specially in smaller cities away of the big two.
They look like they’re being told to smile or a family member will be killed.
I guess they’re just not actors
I’m from Finland. It’s late winter now. It’s not Smiling Season yet.
I’ve spoken to some Fins and it’s being that close to another human being causing that.
/S but only slightly
They sound like my kind of people. Time to look into graduate school in Finland
There was a meme picture of a Finnish bus stop with people queueing leaving about 1-2m between each person. When it was still current, I asked some friends of mine about it and they said “yeah, we definitely like our personal space”, especially out in the countryside.
At the time of the pandemic it was hard for us Finns, as they said we should be 2 meters away from each other. Too close!
As a Finn I can confirm this.
It’s AI generated, isn’t it?
Kinda small on my phone but I don’t think so. Most ai stuff looks more air brushed and the light is usually weird. This has skin imperfections and clothes wrinkles that look very real.
Yeah, but it’ll be a random family member - not necessarily a woman or LGBTQ+.
No no the guy is making a face like “I came here to fart don’t follow me” and she’s all “I came here to smell it”
Americans: Ok sure, but SoCiAlIsM!
Oh no, careful, you might just get affordable healthcare!
I want healthcare to be for everybody, not just to be more affordable for the ones who can afford it.
That’s how it is! The specifics differ a bit country to country though.
For example, where I am everyone is legally required to have health insurance and the government makes sure it is decent. Those who can’t afford it are given money from the government to pay for their health insurance.
Sorry for giving you the wrong impression.
Netherlands?
TORILLE
Orange Diaper is burning my country’s goodwill to the ground and I’m so happy to see the rest of the world telling us to fuck off, and more importantly fucking with Americas wallet.
Consequences for bad behavior is the only way it ever gets corrected.
It’s like someone wished for more European defense spending but to the monkey’s paw
The US wants better European militaries in case we can’t help or share, not because we want to flat out refuse to help or share
The US wants better European militaries in case we can’t help or share
Instructions unclear, got weapons to defend against the US instead…
Suddenly nobody wants an F-35 anymore.
Maybe if things go poorly Europe will have to come liberate you guys and spread some democracy.
We ally with California, Mexico and Canada then liberate the Gilead Republic (see The Handmaid’s Tale series and Civil War film).
We could rejoin the three Californias!
This is amazing for us in Europe, bring all the educated ones and leave the Trumpers there
Fully onboard with this, welcome to Spain amigo.
well to some of us americans, who can’t leave, this is horrible… but logical….
the last thing i want is all the reasonable people to leave, and be stuck with these fuxks….i kinda wonder now, how much did people fleeing nazi germany contributed to them solidifying power?
I mean I imagine most people leaving would still keep American citizenship and therefore still be able to vote. Unless they decide to end their citizenship which some might but I imagine most people would still want to keep that option open.
It’s kinda funny, this is what Texas did to Oklahoma in regards to our teachers. Put up billboards saying that they paid more in Texas. It’s depressing but it worked lol.
oklahoma wasn’t great before that, but at least it was OK…
Take this up vote and GO
The world is looking to China too, their sciences are blossoming. Exciting times ahead while Americans decide who they are and want to be and eventually go through their own Enlightenment. Things are bad now, but tyrants always fall eventually. I think we are entering a sort of golden age for science.
Say less, I’m omw
It is not secret that the US has attracted talented academics for many years. I am sure that these kinds of advertisements are not new.
I’m sure they’re not.
I’m also pretty sure that they’re working a lot better now than they were before…
Lmao I’m not moving to Europe
Yes move to Europe with stagnant economies and 60% tax rates. There are evident reasons why the EU isnt competitive, it’s not a secret.
And long ass vacations. I’m in.
Long ass vacays is true, I’ll give you that one.
America is a shithole that treats their workers like shit overall. I would love to be able to move to Europe.
There is great opportunity in America. People all over the world still want to come here for a chance to compete. Bow down before the great Eagle, cawcaw!! Sure we have our problems but I wouldn’t want to live anywhere else. The border to leave stays open btw.
I live better and more cheaply here than I did in the US, to each their own.
I’d say we do pretty well and STILL have affordable healthcare. But I’m sure potholes and a few extra billionaires are worth the tradeoff.
Actual free market at work, as opposed to the shit we have in the U.S.
