• houstoneulers@lemmy.world
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    His constituents really need to understand that he doesn’t care. He’s willing to tank the economy b/c he and his rich friends can afford to weather that storm. In fact, it’ll be a buying at discount opportunity for them. The vast majority of that base is absolutely not those ppl. They chose wrong, and I hope they’ll learn.

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      Story of his life. At no point ever has DJT not been a loser. Such a failure of a human being, and the world will be much better once he exits it.

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        Saw a great video of his approval numbers and he is underwater compared to every other president for this soon in. His only competition, and President he still comes in 2nd worst to depending on the topic, is himself from his first term. 🤣🤣

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            Well it depends on the topic, because some people love Musk dismantling the government, and others really get a chub from all the deportation (even though it’s a fraction of what he promised) and just general cruelty. But he still has the bottom 2 presidential approval ratings.

            I also think many people tuned out post election because they either voted for the shithead and are by their nature very low information voters, or voted against him and needed to go into a news void for mental health reasons post election.

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    They should’ve added Trump 2016 too, dunno what would it look like but omitting stuff isn’t great

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    I wish every magat in the world would realize what a significant marker this is!!!

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    You know, personally, I don’t think the rumours of Trump being an active foreign agent instead of “just” a narcissist grifter are useful, because they can be used to argue that things weren’t already pretty borked before in the status quo… (and I think they are wrong, personally)

    But I do have to admit - if I was a foreign agent wanting to destroy the US and its influence in the world, I would basically do exactly what he is doing.

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      I get the feeling such rumours are just the other face of the same kind of blind Nationalism as the MAGAts exhibit - the latter group is all about how America is a great country whilst the group spreading the “it’s all due to Foreign interference” rumours are really just denying that the huge problems in America are mainly the fault of Americans.

      Both are just spewing self-serving nationalism in the same direction: that Americans are good and it’s foreigners who are bad.

      It’s generally a good idea to be skeptical of “explanations” which make the people giving them indirectly it look better, either by claiming than the group they’re in is better than the rest or by exhonerating the group they’re in as the cause of the problems that group is having.

      • You put it better than I myself had formulated it in my head yet, why I am weary of those rumours. I find similar arguments here in Europe, where our fascist movements, which are without a doubt supported by Russia, are then sometimes reduced to being some sort of wholly foreign influence, instead of admitting that Russia is stoking flames in embers that had always been part of us and the problems we face.

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          The fields which are being harvested by both external adversaries and power hungry ethics-free insiders were plowed, fertilized and sowed by 4 decades of exposure to the style of disinformation favored by Neoliberalism whilst the consequences of its policies were getting more and more felt by the average person, IMHO.

          When your belt keeps tightening, what you can buy with the income from working keeps being less and less and life feels more and more like swimming against the tide, all the while the authoritative figures of old (mainly the Press and mainstream party politicians) keep telling you that things are getting better (“the GDP is growing!”), eventually people lose trust in said authoritative figures and those with a similar style of discourse, which opens the door to non-mainstream political voices with a different style of discourse (including populists), and very wealthy people aren’t going to be funding Leftwing parties whose ideas are not shaped by Neoliberalism, to fill the political gap opened by the general loss of trust on the mainstream, they’re going to be funding Rightwing voices who blame the powerless for the ills of the nation rather than those very wealthy people who have been pillaging it for decades.

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      I think he’s inept, stupid, and doesn’t have a plan or idea about what he’s doing. Tariffs, eg, are the polar opposite of what he claims.

      His puppeteers, however? They’re just letting him run wild, destroying everything he touches, because they have the wherewithall to withstand the damage.

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        You think Trump cares about all these things enough to run around destroying everything? His train of thought chugs for a second, sputters and switches lines. He’s obviously being fed things to be upset about and talking points, then an executive order is put in front of him to sign. He’s not writing these orders.

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        Oh, the puppeteers will have him under the proverbial bus the moment things turn back on them. Mr Trump has an inherent unlikableness about him that will work well for people needing a scapegoat. Once a win is achieved or a loss is unavoidable, he’ll be hung out to dry in a microsecond.

        And that’s sad. The mean things we do is a reflection on us and not the victim.

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        And they are all making $$$. Insiders make out like crazy when the economy crashes, buy the low and hold. Open a for-profit prison. Get shady government contracts. Get the President to do a commercial for your cars in front of the White House. And on and on.

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            It makes sense that they’re prone to the falacy of expecting things to carry on happenning mostly as they’ve happenned in their lifetimes, same as everybody else.

            That being so, it makes sense that they are certain that there will be a rebound “because it’s always what has happenned after a crash”.

            Or, if you want an historical reference, the Monarchy in France right up to the French Revolution never expected than no matter how much they exploited the rest, they themselves would end up on guillotines.

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            They don’t want a return to normal, they want a return to feudal slavery. The financial warfare is just a means to that end until the point where money doesn’t matter anymore.

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        He’s in Putin’s pocket for sure. You remember the closed door meeting with him and Putin his first time in office? Putin came out looking smug af and Trump looked like he’d just seen the ghost of his dead dad. Trump was best mates with Epstien and famously can’t keep it his pants. My bet is that Putin has footage of him fucking a minor and is threatening to release it unless Trump toes the line.

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            I dunno, I’m certain that there will be a great number of folks with enough cognitive dissonance to validate whatever he does in their own minds, but I still think that it would sink him.

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          Dude, the Venn diagram of the states in which it’s legal to marry a minor and those in which Trump won is probably just a circle

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        refusing to speak negatively of Putin in front of millions during the debate should’ve been a pretty clear wakeup call

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    Obama 2013 doesn’t really make any sense. He was already president, so nothing changed. 2009 is probably much worse cause of Bush’s recession.

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      Obama 2009 looks about the same, maybe a bit stronger over 100 days. The market collapse happened in the final months of the Bush presidency, and it was just about at the bottom as Obama came into office.

      To have a number as bad as Trump II, you have to go back to Bush’s first term (in general the Bush graph is pretty bad, barely managing to make it back up to break-even for a few months before the 2008 collapse).

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      Bad bot. Making so obviously provocative and distracting content is a give away. FUCKER.

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      It’s important to note that Trump is responsible for what’s happening. While Obama was given the financial crisis on his lap because of things out of his immediate control.

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        100%. Neither is a good comparison, really. Trump 2017 vs Trump 2025 might be the best comparison. But that also implies he was responsible for 2017, which he wasn’t.

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        Yeah, other presidents have ups and downs and usually it’s nearly a coincidence, good luck or bad on their part.

        Trump absolutely is responsible for current economic conditions, with no ambiguity.

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    Would be interested in seeing the full 4 year terms as well

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    I realize the title is rhetorical, but just a reminder that AB not only reversed their support for the Bud Light campaign after just a few weeks of fascist bigot whining, they also fired the advertising manager responsible.

    All over a single can of beer.

    You probably can’t buy beer regularly without giving them some of your money, but let’s not forget what spineless cowards they are. (Just like Target.)

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    Do you not have the ability to take a vote of no confidence in the US? Or are you.just stuck with it for 4 years and he can do whatever?

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      They have an impeachment process which they tried a few years back twice but didn’t work. It is like black magic, a whole lot of mumbo jumbo for literally nothing.

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        Impeachment doesn’t seem like it actually does anything. It’s like an official slap on the wrist.
        Maybe the laws were written back when politicians had a sense of shame and they just assumed that an impeached president would resign.

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          Exactly.

          The US system has bunch of things that don’t have explicitly defined penalties, because just the act itself was so shameful that it itself was the punishment.

          But now they have a president with zero shame and zero morals - the processes don’t work.

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          If you’re found guilty in impeachment you’re removed from office… Just because you don’t understand the full process doesn’t mean it’s toothless

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          It is a 2 part process. If you think of it like a criminal offense, impeachment is a charge. Then the Senate convicts. He caught 2 charges and the Senate voted him innocent.

          So long as he holds at least 33% support in the Senate, he’s safe.

          50% in Congress for bringing the articles (charges). 67% of Senate to convict

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            My point exactly. US politics have become so divided that a sitting president would never be found guilty by his own party members, which would be necessary for conviction considering how the two parties always get near-equal amount of representatives. The system is stacked so that an impeachment will never have any effect on a sitting president.